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« on: April 11, 2006, 10:08:39 pm »
Is there a good ebook/text reader that shows what page your on, bookmarks, and allows you to jump to certain page?

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« Reply #1 on: April 12, 2006, 02:16:16 pm »
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Is there a good ebook/text reader that shows what page your on, bookmarks, and allows you to jump to certain page?

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I have been very happy with OPIE Reader.  It does not show what page you are on (unless I have not seen some specific setting), but does show what percentage through the book/file you are.  Likewise, you can jump to a specific number of Kb through the file, but not to a specific page number.

It DOES allow for bookmarking and the ability to jump between bookmarks.
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« Reply #2 on: April 12, 2006, 10:24:11 pm »
opie reader is nice but cant mobipocket make a mobipocket reader for the zaurus?

that app bookmarks the ebook automatically, shows the page number and you can go to any page.

and the ebook fills the whole screen better  

still, opie reader is nice and can open a lot of stuff! that's the most important for me
« Last Edit: April 12, 2006, 10:24:36 pm by cmonex »

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« Reply #3 on: April 18, 2006, 08:27:35 am »
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opie reader is nice but cant mobipocket make a mobipocket reader for the zaurus?

that app bookmarks the ebook automatically, shows the page number and you can go to any page.

and the ebook fills the whole screen better  

still, opie reader is nice and can open a lot of stuff! that's the most important for me
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You can auto-generate bookmarks in opie-reader and there is a full-screen mode, too. There is a bug in the version of QT/embedded which is used in Sharp based ROMs which means the launcher bar keeps overwriting the bottom of the screen so you can also turn off the toolbar, scrollbar and statusbar to get a (near) fullscreen effect but which doesn't use the space behind the launcher bar - or you can just use opie with the fullscreen mode which has a fixed version of QT/embedded 8^).

As for pages, I personally hate the concept of pages for an e-book reader. If you equate a page to a screenful then any change you make to the formatting means your paging needs re-doing. And if you don't equate it to a screenful, what is a page? OTOH, opie-reader is open source so if anyone *else* wants page functionality, feel free to add it ;^).

BTW you can jump to a percentage position in opie-reader by either putting a % on the end of the number you enter into the "jump" box, or by putting a "." somewhere in the number to make it a floating point number (this *may* vary according to locale - I can't remember if I use QT functions to manage that or not).

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« Reply #4 on: April 23, 2006, 02:12:20 pm »
hmm, i didn't find out how to autogenerate the bookmarks.

i know how to go into full screen but mobipocket just does it better. i can see more text (better formatted maybe?)

thanks for the other tips though

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« Reply #5 on: April 24, 2006, 02:49:44 am »
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hmm, i didn't find out how to autogenerate the bookmarks.

i know how to go into full screen but mobipocket just does it better. i can see more text (better formatted maybe?)

thanks for the other tips though
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Autogen is on the Marks menu.

You can get more text on the display by adjusting the text size, reducing the size of the margins and, if you still want more, reducing the amount of leading between lines.

I've attached a screenshot of the most I can personally tolerate on my SL5000.

This is using the smallsmooth font with the top margin set at 5, the bottom margin to 0 and the left and right margins to 20. I've set the line leading to -4 (yes, -4, i.e. less than 0) and the paragraph leading to -1.

Is this closer to what you had in mind?

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« Reply #6 on: April 24, 2006, 09:52:50 am »
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William Gibson? I'm guessing Neuromancer...

Apart from that, I found that readability especially with small fonts can be increased by using a serifed font.
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« Reply #7 on: April 24, 2006, 11:29:20 am »
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William Gibson? I'm guessing Neuromancer...

Apart from that, I found that readability especially with small fonts can be increased by using a serifed font.
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Correct 8^).

I find that sans-serif fonts are better for me at low resolutions (i.e. my SL5000) but that may be more due to the limitations of the anti-aliasing/hinting algorithms. At higher resolutions I agree - but in either case, the main reason I used that font was that it was the smallest that I had 8^).

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« Reply #8 on: April 24, 2006, 11:53:22 am »
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Correct 8^).
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I find that sans-serif fonts are better for me at low resolutions (i.e. my SL5000)
Well, I can only speak of the relatively high resolution of my borzoi, where serifed fonts (as generally in printing typography) make for better reading than sans-serifed ones. Of course that might be reversed if the display is not able to display the fine serifes.
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« Reply #9 on: April 24, 2006, 12:24:36 pm »
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Of course that might be reversed if the display is not able to display the fine serifes.
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Or if you've just had to get your first pair of bifocals....like I just did 8^).

I did take a closer look and it is the smoothing that detracts from the serifed fonts. The edges of the letters where the serifs should be just end up a misty blur (or is that the bifocals again). I imagine that non-aliased fonts would probably lose the serifs pretty much altogether, given the low resolution and the small size, so may not be much better.

As you say, the higher resolution probably gives you the serifs even at the small font sizes and hence better legibility. Yet another good reason for me to upgrade to a clam-shell model 8^).

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« Reply #10 on: April 29, 2006, 12:55:56 pm »
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hmm, i didn't find out how to autogenerate the bookmarks.

i know how to go into full screen but mobipocket just does it better. i can see more text (better formatted maybe?)

thanks for the other tips though
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Autogen is on the Marks menu.

You can get more text on the display by adjusting the text size, reducing the size of the margins and, if you still want more, reducing the amount of leading between lines.

I've attached a screenshot of the most I can personally tolerate on my SL5000.

This is using the smallsmooth font with the top margin set at 5, the bottom margin to 0 and the left and right margins to 20. I've set the line leading to -4 (yes, -4, i.e. less than 0) and the paragraph leading to -1.

Is this closer to what you had in mind?
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wow yes this screenshot is closer to what i'd like...  i'll check this out...  thanks!

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« Reply #11 on: June 02, 2006, 05:43:25 am »
FBReader makes a pretty good reader -- but personally I'd like to see the Plucker folks make a native port