Xqt Installed Under Opie, Now What?

[enodr]

I have compiled xqt from the org.openembedded.oz354x tree, and it installed fine. I can now run Xqt and get the grey screen with the cursor. The question is, where should I go from here. There is no doc on the Xqt site, and nothing clear from the forum.

Any help would be welcome.

[lardman]

I'd guess you need to start something running - probably a window manager, but even without one, something like an xterm should still display and let you see whether it works.

Regarding window managers, I'd try matchbox (as it's what GPE uses), but you may want something else.

Si

[enodr]

I'd guess you need to start something running - probably a window manager, but even without one, something like an xterm should still display and let you see whether it works.

Regarding window managers, I'd try matchbox (as it's what GPE uses), but you may want something else.

Si
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Well I can't figure how to run an app from this X screen.

[lardman]

You don't need to, just run it from a terminal outside of XQt - with that said, you'll have to make sure that your DISPLAY env var is set correctly.


Si

[jfv]

Xqt looks at a file in your home directory (.xinitrc) to decide which programs to run when it starts up. You might want to add an xterm and or a window manager in this file, but make sure that said programs are installed in your system.

Felipe

[enodr]

Ok I have done some tests. Here are the feedbacks

Install xqt from the feed:

Code: [Select]

ipkg update; ipkg install xqt
Run xqt then under a terminal:

Code: [Select]

export DISPLAY=:0.0
Then run your x11 app from the command line.

Results for some installed apps from the x11 feed:
- rxvt: quits with error can't parse tty name "pts/3" / XError: Request: 53 . 0, Error: 11
- icewm: display is garbagged
- abiword: quits with gtk error (does xqt require its own gtk libs or can we use the libs
from the feed?)
- firefox: crash with gtk errors and pango errors
- xdemineur: works but unusable because right click (fn click) does not work

I guess all those problems can be solved, but I would need some help from someone with xqt experience

[Meanie]

Ok I have done some tests. Here are the feedbacks

Install xqt from the feed:

Code: [Select]

ipkg update; ipkg install xqt
Run xqt then under a terminal:

Code: [Select]

export DISPLAY=:0.0
Then run your x11 app from the command line.

Results for some installed apps from the x11 feed:
- rxvt: quits with error can't parse tty name "pts/3" / XError: Request: 53 . 0, Error: 11
- icewm: display is garbagged
- abiword: quits with gtk error (does xqt require its own gtk libs or can we use the libs
from the feed?)
- firefox: crash with gtk errors and pango errors
- xdemineur: works but unusable because right click (fn click) does not work

I guess all those problems can be solved, but I would need some help from someone with xqt experience
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xqt is just the base X server. you will also need to install x fonts, x clients, xlibs and a window manager to just get basic X to work. for most of the applications, like abiword, you you also need to install glib/glib2 and gtk/gtk2 which also requires atk and many more other libraries such as fontconfig, expat, and freetype2. firefox also needs pango as well. you also need to configure your x server settings as well as the client settings. xinitrc and xserverrc are the minimum you need to configure and usually you use the startx script to launch xqt which sets up the environment and then launches xinit.
since opie and gpe are build from the same source and share a common base, all you need to do is install all the dependencies and do some configuration. i have setup a complete xqt environment under Sharp ROM which should be similar to settings up xqt under opie. i had to recompile a lot of the pdaXrom packages to make them work under sharp rom due to glibc version differences but opie and gpe share the same base packages and glibc so in your case its just hunting down all the dependencies and even for the configuration you can borrow the settings from qpe.

[koen]

Ok I have done some tests. Here are the feedbacks

Install xqt from the feed:

Code: [Select]

ipkg update; ipkg install xqt
Run xqt then under a terminal:

Code: [Select]

export DISPLAY=:0.0
Then run your x11 app from the command line.

Results for some installed apps from the x11 feed:
- rxvt: quits with error can't parse tty name "pts/3" / XError: Request: 53 . 0, Error: 11
- icewm: display is garbagged
- abiword: quits with gtk error (does xqt require its own gtk libs or can we use the libs
from the feed?)
- firefox: crash with gtk errors and pango errors
- xdemineur: works but unusable because right click (fn click) does not work

I guess all those problems can be solved, but I would need some help from someone with xqt experience
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xqt is just the base X server. you will also need to install x fonts, x clients, xlibs and a window manager to just get basic X to work. for most of the applications, like abiword, you you also need to install glib/glib2 and gtk/gtk2 which also requires atk and many more other libraries such as fontconfig, expat, and freetype2. firefox also needs pango as well. you also need to configure your x server settings as well as the client settings. xinitrc and xserverrc are the minimum you need to configure and usually you use the startx script to launch xqt which sets up the environment and then launches xinit.
since opie and gpe are build from the same source and share a common base, all you need to do is install all the dependencies and do some configuration. i have setup a complete xqt environment under Sharp ROM which should be similar to settings up xqt under opie. i had to recompile a lot of the pdaXrom packages to make them work under sharp rom due to glibc version differences but opie and gpe share the same base packages and glibc so in your case its just hunting down all the dependencies and even for the configuration you can borrow the settings from qpe.
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'ipkg install abiword' will install all dependencies needed for abiword
'ipkg install firefox' will install all dependencies needed for firefox

In openzaurus dependencies 'just work', if they don't, file a bug and we'll fix it for you

[enodr]

'ipkg install abiword' will install all dependencies needed for abiword
'ipkg install firefox' will install all dependencies needed for firefox

In openzaurus dependencies 'just work', if they don't, file a bug and we'll fix it for you
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That's what I did, and it seems that all depedencies got installed (gtk, pango...), but it still doesn't work under Xqt. I did not have time to dig into the problem, maybe there is still a package missing, I'll try to find out.

If it can help launching abiword under Xqt raises the following error:
GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Cannot open pixbuf loader module file '/etc/gtk-2.0/gdk-pixbuf.loaders': No such file or directory

I have to find out which package this file belongs to.

[koen]

'ipkg install abiword' will install all dependencies needed for abiword
'ipkg install firefox' will install all dependencies needed for firefox

In openzaurus dependencies 'just work', if they don't, file a bug and we'll fix it for you
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That's what I did, and it seems that all depedencies got installed (gtk, pango...), but it still doesn't work under Xqt. I did not have time to dig into the problem, maybe there is still a package missing, I'll try to find out.

If it can help launching abiword under Xqt raises the following error:
GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Cannot open pixbuf loader module file '/etc/gtk-2.0/gdk-pixbuf.loaders': No such file or directory

I have to find out which package this file belongs to.
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aha! 'ipkg list | grep gdk-pixbuf-loader' and install the ones you need, probably jpg, png and xpm. We split those out to save space and it seems gtk+ doesn't RRECOMMEND those. They are listed in some task-gpe0<foo> however

[YoG]

Hi,
I tried to install xqt, like enodr suggested:

Install xqt from the feed:

Code: [Select]

ipkg update; ipkg install xqt

Run xqt then under a terminal:

Code: [Select]

export DISPLAY=:0.0

but when i run Xqt, I get (after few lines of output):

"Could not init font path element /usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/, removing from list!"
and then segemntation fault...

any suggestions?

thanx YoG

[Meanie]

'ipkg install abiword' will install all dependencies needed for abiword
'ipkg install firefox' will install all dependencies needed for firefox

In openzaurus dependencies 'just work', if they don't, file a bug and we'll fix it for you
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That's what I did, and it seems that all depedencies got installed (gtk, pango...), but it still doesn't work under Xqt. I did not have time to dig into the problem, maybe there is still a package missing, I'll try to find out.

If it can help launching abiword under Xqt raises the following error:
GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Cannot open pixbuf loader module file '/etc/gtk-2.0/gdk-pixbuf.loaders': No such file or directory

I have to find out which package this file belongs to.
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aha! 'ipkg list | grep gdk-pixbuf-loader' and install the ones you need, probably jpg, png and xpm. We split those out to save space and it seems gtk+ doesn't RRECOMMEND those. They are listed in some task-gpe0<foo> however
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afaik, a postinstall script in the gdk-pixbuf package is supposed to generate that file depending on what image libraries are available.

[enodr]

afaik, a postinstall script in the gdk-pixbuf package is supposed to generate that file depending on what image libraries are available.
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You are right, a simple ipkg install gdk-[whatever] goes fine.

I also installed the missing fonts from the xqt feed, but that's not the problem.

Still apps are crashing: launching abiword for example crashes with only two warning about setting locale not supported by glibc or whatever, but I guess this is not the reason of the crash...

[YoG]

Hi,
I tried to install xqt, like enodr suggested:

Install xqt from the feed:

Code: [Select]

ipkg update; ipkg install xqt

Run xqt then under a terminal:

Code: [Select]

export DISPLAY=:0.0

but when i run Xqt, I get (after few lines of output):

"Could not init font path element /usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/, removing from list!"
and then segemntation fault...

any suggestions?

thanx YoG
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After installing also the 100dpi fonts xqt starts.
But now I have these problems:
1) The screen is rotated.
2) The screen does not refresh, I have to switch to another app and then return to xqt to force it refreshing itself.
3) The Enter key does not work.

thanx,
YoG

[Meanie]

Hi,
I tried to install xqt, like enodr suggested:

Install xqt from the feed:

Code: [Select]

ipkg update; ipkg install xqt

Run xqt then under a terminal:

Code: [Select]

export DISPLAY=:0.0

but when i run Xqt, I get (after few lines of output):

"Could not init font path element /usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/, removing from list!"
and then segemntation fault...

any suggestions?

thanx YoG
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After installing also the 100dpi fonts xqt starts.
But now I have these problems:
1) The screen is rotated.
2) The screen does not refresh, I have to switch to another app and then return to xqt to force it refreshing itself.
3) The Enter key does not work.

thanx,
YoG
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you also need to set the screen rotation/orrientation using randr
and map the keyboard using xmodmap
and load a nice window manager
you should try running small apps first to verify your xqt environment is ok before going to run bigger apps like abiword.
sylpheed and dillo are small apps which are actually quite useful but also help you determine whether your basic config is correct and working. once they work, you can tackle firefox and abiword and then maybe gnumeric which has many more dependencies.