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coreilly

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« on: May 13, 2006, 08:52:42 pm »
Something needs to be done in this area... even dillo would be a blessing. I can't be bothered to compile and the package list is pretty depressing... minimo works.. but just enough to get the latest scores.  

Firefox is a hog...
minimo is buggy
links+ is text

dillo?
opera?
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« Reply #1 on: May 14, 2006, 04:57:42 pm »
Links+ does support images.  Use the -g option.  It's still not as complete, visually, as firefox, though.

Did you try Konquerer-embeded?  Works well.  Hasn't crashed on me yet and is pretty complete on what it can render.


EDIT:  Bummer    As soon as I say konq-e never crashed on me, it crashed.  I guess I like links+ the best.
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« Reply #2 on: September 16, 2006, 11:05:33 am »
mathemajikian and myself have exchanged a few messages regarding the state of web browers in openbsd on the Z... we have come to realize that konq-e (best of the lot) is crap when you get right down to it, we really need opera.

any ideas other than emailing/posting on opera forums about how we can go about getting this done? cause those options have already ended up on the short end of the stick.

other than that my Z is running OBSD great... using the tips from Andy and gen2, it is running almost perfect.. just add SD support and opera and boom, perfection!

btw, gen2, thanks for fvwm2... never even thought to give that a try. so lightweight!
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« Reply #3 on: September 17, 2006, 04:29:11 pm »
What is really lacking, IMHO, is the Linux emulation, that would solve the browser problem (allowing Opera to be used), and would also allow a few neat thing to be used, like a java machine.
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« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2006, 12:11:38 am »
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What is really lacking, IMHO, is the Linux emulation, that would solve the browser problem (allowing Opera to be used), and would also allow a few neat thing to be used, like a java machine.
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Java on BSD on Zaurus?  
I think linux emulation would be great
I am currently thinking about putting OpenBSD onto my Z since pdaXrom and OZ have disappointed me very much...
and links with -g is actually quite good
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« Reply #5 on: September 18, 2006, 05:28:29 am »
Java Issue:
I have been able to use the jikes java compiler and  jamVM on my Zaurii but classpath-0.91 will no longer build correctly. I get out of swap errors during the build process. I guess 82M of swap is not enough. To run even the simplist  java apps we need classpath to build correctly on the Z. If someone has a classpath-0.91 package please post it.

http://ports.openbsd.nu/lang/jamvm

http://ports.openbsd.nu/lang/classpath

http://ports.openbsd.nu/lang/jikes

Browser Issue:
I have uninstalled konq-e since it is really starting to show its age and have been using links with -g and elinks.  If we can get java working I'm sure we can take advantage of the slew of Java based web browsers out there.

Linux Emulation:
I don't think we need Linux emulation. If you want Linux then use a Linux. If you want BSD then use BSD. If you want Linux and BSD then dual boot.


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What is really lacking, IMHO, is the Linux emulation, that would solve the browser problem (allowing Opera to be used), and would also allow a few neat thing to be used, like a java machine.
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Java on BSD on Zaurus?  

links with -g is actually quite good
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« Reply #6 on: September 20, 2006, 12:59:14 pm »
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Linux Emulation:
I don't think we need Linux emulation. If you want Linux then use a Linux. If you want BSD then use BSD. If you want Linux and BSD then dual boot.

I did not used the "need" word. But I still believe that it would be useful. And I have the feeling that I am not the only one, because the three BSD branchs on x86 support this feature, as the way to answer to proprietary linux software.

Beside, dual booting is not the same thing than running two apps in the same user space. Rebooting twice a day is the "windows" way of doing thing, but it is neither the way of using a PDA, nor the way to use a BSD machine.
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« Reply #7 on: September 20, 2006, 02:31:57 pm »
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What is really lacking, IMHO, is the Linux emulation, that would solve the browser problem (allowing Opera to be used), and would also allow a few neat thing to be used, like a java machine.
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Actually no, unless you build Qtopia for OpenBSD also since Opera for ARM Linux is built for Qtopia only afaik

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« Reply #8 on: September 21, 2006, 06:16:51 am »
Good point.

Maybe could Qtopia would be runnable with Linux emulation, but I wouldn't bet on it...
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« Reply #9 on: September 21, 2006, 07:54:25 am »
Now that I have Java working on the Zaurii I'm going to try and compile/port some Java based web browsers.

EDIT: After looking at numerous Java browsers I cannot seem to find any which will out perform Konq-e.
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« Reply #10 on: September 21, 2006, 09:20:37 am »
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Now that I have Java working on the Zaurii I'm going to try and compile/port some Java based web browsers.
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you can try opera-mini under jamvm+classpath with me4se
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« Reply #11 on: September 27, 2006, 07:59:55 am »
Dillo has been fixed in the ports tree and now builds correctly.

2006-09-21 22:13:19 by Peter Valchev

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Update to new version (0.8.6) and unbreak.
From new maintainer Jim Uhl <juhl@mala.bc.ca>
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« Reply #12 on: September 27, 2006, 08:57:23 am »
excellent! ill install it when i get home.

any news on opera math?
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« Reply #13 on: September 28, 2006, 05:29:20 am »
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any news on opera math?

All I got back from Opera was an e-mail saying

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« Reply #14 on: September 29, 2006, 06:48:08 am »
I finally got mozilla-firefox to build without error (took 3 days to build); however, I cannot get it to run for longer than one minute.    It starts up but will exit with no error indication. Not sure if it is just to big to run on the Z or if I'm missing some files which it depends on. (I think I may be missing some files related to GTK because when I start firefox-bin -ProfileManager it seems to be missing the Exit, Start Firefox widgets). I'm going to get with Andy and see if we can fix the problem.

EDIT: The TestGTKEmbed works great, but this is just minimo without the fancy frontend.
EDIT2: I have had no luck getting firefox to stay open for longer than one minute, I'm finally giving up. Maybe someone else can build the port and get it working.
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