Browsers

[coreilly]

I finally got mozilla-firefox to build without error (took 3 days to build); however, I cannot get it to run for longer than one minute.    It starts up but will exit with no error indication. Not sure if it is just to big to run on the Z or if I'm missing some files which it depends on. (I think I may be missing some files related to GTK because when I start firefox-bin -ProfileManager it seems to be missing the Exit, Start Firefox widgets). I'm going to get with Andy and see if we can fix the problem.

EDIT: The TestGTKEmbed works great, but this is just minimo without the fancy frontend.
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that's great news on firefox! thanks for your work mathemajikian! i just installed dillo from the ports... very fast and an absolute joy over konq-e.

and thanks for the tip on using ion3 as my window manager... very fast and keyboard use is a breeze..  

so far thats

fvwm
blackbox
windowmaker
fvwm2
dwm

knocked off... ion3 my new fav!

[mathemajikian]

ion3 is perfect for the Z. Make sure you copy the config files from /usr/local/share/examples/ion3/ to ~/.ion3/  There's alot of config options regarding keybindings in cfg_ioncore.lua and you can change the look and feel by editing look.lua.

[coreilly]

ion3 is perfect for the Z. Make sure you copy the config files from /usr/local/share/examples/ion3/ to ~/.ion3/  There's alot of config options regarding keybindings in cfg_ioncore.lua and you can change the look and feel by editing look.lua.
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i agree... thanks for the tip. i copied it over to ~/.ion3 and set replaced the F5 button with the F12 menu button and boom... working great!

[mathemajikian]

When you want to check your hotmail account but dont want to load all the javascript and images on the normal hotmail.com website check out the following link:

http://mobile.msn.com/

[mathemajikian]

Elinks gets my vote for best text based browser! You can configure every aspect of the interface and its super fast! Use it for more than 2 days with ion3 and you'll wonder how you ever lived without it. My second favorite browser is w3m. It's a browser similar to links+ in that it's a text based browser outside of X but supports graphics when under X. My third favorite is dillo. It's really quick at rendering pages, but I hate using a mouse/stylus so I find myself using it less. Also SSL support is really buggy and javascript support is null.  Forth is links+. As mentioned above it supports both text and graphics when under X but can be used as a text only browser outside of X. The graphics mode is pretty slow to load but is worth it if you dont want to use a mouse/stylus. Dillo has it beat for web page rendering speeds, but links has alot more configuration options. Finally there's konq-e. This browser would be great if it was not such a memory hog and had some sort of file download management. It renders most pages as expected and does so at a fairly decent speed. Hopefully in the future we can get a newer version of konq-e working, but it seems that most of the newer versions require kdelibs and atleast qt-3.5. Out of all the browser listed I think dillo has the brightest future on the Zaurii. Give it a year or two and it could out perform konq-e.

[mathemajikian]

The links+ in the ports collection is a little behind so I went ahead and compiled and tested a newer version. The first thing I noticed was the significant increase in startup speed and rendering speed, I'm sure you'll be able to spot the others. Make sure you turn on Auto Refresh and enable javascript from the options menu. You might also want to reduce the default values for fonts sizes, text margins, and image scaling. I found font size=14, text margins=1, and image scaling=90 to be just about right(Better yet you can also enable auto scaling). Be sure to perform the calibration procedures (help, calibration) to get the browser to look its best. Note that if you make any changes to your video options it will take about 1 minute for these changes to take effect. Here's the package:

UNINSTALL EXISTING LINKS+ INSTALLATION BEFORE INSTALLING!

To Install just untar.gz links+-2.1pre23.tgz.tar.gz then pkg_add links+-2.1pre23.tgz

Built on 4.0 OpenBSD --->  [ Invalid Attachment ]

To uninstall pkg_delete links+-2.1pre23.tgz

Heres a link to the release notes: http://links.twibright.com/download/ChangeLog

and this explains the startup speed difference seen in 2.1pre23:
 
=== RELEASE 2.1pre22 ===

        sponsored by Alex Poylisher
   Use 8-bit gamma correction on machines with slow FPU (or with FPU
   emulation) --- this significantly reduces startup time

[mathemajikian]

I'm attempting to make Mozilla run on the OpenBSD/Zaurus port and have successfully been able to build/compile Mozilla with no indicated errors; however, when I execute Mozilla the standard interface comes up, but I'm unable to load any websites. If I type in the address of a website and hit enter nothing happens, if I hit the reload button nothing happens, if I try and select the preferences options under Edit -->Preferences nothing happens, if I try and close Mozilla with File --> Quit it does not close. (I have to ctrl-c) It's like the interface is not linked. Furthermore, when I mouse over some of the icons I get a little square where there should be a rectangle filled with tool tip text. Could I be missing some dependent libraries? Since this application takes 3 days to build I want to see if anyone could offer any build option suggestions? The OpenBSD/Zaurus port is in dire need of a modern web browser. All suggestions are welcome.

Thanks in advance!

[mathemajikian]

I'm attempting to make Mozilla run on the OpenBSD/Zaurus port and have successfully been able to build/compile Mozilla with no indicated errors; however, when I execute Mozilla the standard interface comes up, but I'm unable to load any websites. If I type in the address of a website and hit enter nothing happens, if I hit the reload button nothing happens, if I try and select the preferences options under Edit -->Preferences nothing happens, if I try and close Mozilla with File --> Quit it does not close. (I have to ctrl-c) It's like the interface is not linked. Furthermore, when I mouse over some of the icons I get a little square where there should be a rectangle filled with tool tip text. Could I be missing some dependent libraries? Since this application takes 3 days to build I want to see if anyone could offer any build option suggestions? The OpenBSD/Zaurus port is in dire need of a modern web browser. All suggestions are welcome.

Thanks in advance!
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I found out today that the problem described above isn't with Mozilla, but rather with the new devel/nspr that is being used. However, the problem only seems to present itself on the Zaurus platform.    The OpenBSD port nspr maintainer is aware of the problem and is working to fix it. Once corrected Mozilla should be able to run on the Z without issue.

EDIT: Minimo is also affected by this, and will not work on the Z until the nspr problem has been fixed.

[mathemajikian]

Apparently the Minimo/Mozilla build issues aren't going to be an easy fix. Here's what the maintainer had to say:

The problem is due to the lack of correct invoke/stubs for OpenBSD/arm; the minimo
interface heavily uses js and requires dynamic xptc calls.

Unfortunately we don't have these and it returns NS_NOT_IMPLEMENTED on
every call, therefore it just ignores some (all) events.

This results in the unresponsive interface problem you were seeing in both Mozilla and Minimo.

 

[mathemajikian]

Apparently the Minimo/Mozilla build issues aren't going to be an easy fix. Here's what the maintainer had to say:

The problem is due to the lack of correct invoke/stubs for OpenBSD/arm; the minimo
interface heavily uses js and requires dynamic xptc calls.

Unfortunately we don't have these and it returns NS_NOT_IMPLEMENTED on
every call, therefore it just ignores some (all) events.

This results in the unresponsive interface problem you were seeing in both Mozilla and Minimo.

 
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Minimo has been fixed! Here's the package for anyone who needs it: [a href=\"http://humppa.hu/minimo-20061120p3.tgz]minimo-20061120p3.tgz[/url]   (This has the new interface and working javascript. This means no more crashing when accessing sites like hotmail.com)

[mathemajikian]

mozilla-firefox added in my repository

p.s.: compiled in 3 days and 3 nights

So they finally patched this! Excellent! Here's some screen shots for the disbelievers.

[img]http://mersenne.homeunix.net/mozillascreenshot1.png\" border=\"0\" class=\"linked-image\" /]

[img]http://mersenne.homeunix.net/mozillascreenshot2.png\" border=\"0\" class=\"linked-image\" /]

[mathemajikian]

I'm going to try and recompile the classpath gcjwebplugin (java plugin for firefox/mozilla). If it works then I'll post the packages.

[jpmatrix]

I'm going to try and recompile the classpath gcjwebplugin (java plugin for firefox/mozilla). If it works then I'll post the packages.
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any success?

[mathemajikian]

I'm going to try and recompile the classpath gcjwebplugin (java plugin for firefox/mozilla). If it works then I'll post the packages.
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any success?

I have finals this week so I haven't had any free time. I will block sometime out later in the week.

[mathemajikian]

(mathemajikian @ Apr 21 2007, 06:40 PM)
I'm going to try and recompile the classpath gcjwebplugin (java plugin for firefox/mozilla). If it works then I'll post the packages.

any success?

Checkout the following post: Mozilla-Firefox Java Plugin