Important Update...

[pgas]

At the moment with pdaXrom - the lack of a version control system (such as CVS or Subversion) that everyone can contribute to, and obtain the very latest version of code (so any patches that are developed arn't useless or obsolute or would just take too much time to adapt to the latest code, as it seems has happened a few times when people have submitted patches to sashz) is a big problem.

http://mail.pdaxrom.org/node/101 :

Download pdaXrom-builder from svn repository:
svn checkout https://mail.pdaXrom.org/svn/pdaXrom-builder/trunk

[Craigms]

http://mail.pdaxrom.org/node/101 :

Download pdaXrom-builder from svn repository:
svn checkout https://mail.pdaXrom.org/svn/pdaXrom-builder/trunk

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I feel I must apologise here, I never realized that this existed!  Last time I checked the documentation on the pdaXrom site and the oesf how-to's it didn't!
Thank you for pointing this out, I will start using it immediately - it will be very useful!  

My previous comments about not having a central repository for the latest development code and patches now seem null and void - please ignore them!  ;

[omro]

I feel I must apologise here, I never realized that this existed!

that seems a very common feeling about the behind the scenes goings on of pdaXrom.

[chuckr]

I feel I must apologise here, I never realized that this existed!

that seems a very common feeling about the behind the scenes goings on of pdaXrom.
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I'm not paricularly familiar with svn (I'm much more at home yet with cvs) but isn't this interface read-only?  Until I can get WRITE access (or at keast someone outside of Sashz having write access) then Sash completely strangles all pdaXrom development.  You don;t just need archive access (although it's nice), you need write access.

This is very easy to give, and manage via ssh keys.

[Hrw]

chukr: anyway having svn access is better as there is a way to check what is going on with pdaX.

[omro]

So...

I guess the real questions are:

1) What really is happening with pdaXrom? What does the future hold for it?

2) Will there ever been a stable, bug fixed release and if so, when?

[karlto]

So...

I guess the real questions are:

1) What really is happening with pdaXrom? What does the future hold for it?

2) Will there ever been a stable, bug fixed release and if so, when?
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I think that some slightly better version numbers (as suggested by others) might help answer both those questions.

To add my two cents to something which I know nothing about   , I would venture to suggest that:
- 1.1.0beta1 be officially released as 1.1.1 (stable => new users, etc)
- 1.1.0beta3 be 1.1.3beta (2.4 kernel, late development => usable but not 100%)
- 1.1.0beta4 be 1.2.0alpha (2.6 kernel, early development => at your own risk!)

Or something like that. That would make it clear to me which to download and use, and what was being developed...

(Hopefully I'm not wrong about the current state of the game!)

[cycle_55]

So...

I guess the real questions are:

1) What really is happening with pdaXrom? What does the future hold for it?

2) Will there ever been a stable, bug fixed release and if so, when?
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I think that some slightly better version numbers (as suggested by others) might help answer both those questions.

To add my two cents to something which I know nothing about   , I would venture to suggest that:
- 1.1.0beta1 be officially released as 1.1.1 (stable => new users, etc)
- 1.1.0beta3 be 1.1.3beta (2.4 kernel, late development => usable but not 100%)
- 1.1.0beta4 be 1.2.0alpha (2.6 kernel, early development => at your own risk!)

Or something like that. That would make it clear to me which to download and use, and what was being developed...
(Hopefully I'm not wrong about the current state of the game!)
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well I don't know....wouldn't that be too simple and make too much sense??  

cycle_55

[omro]

- 1.1.0beta1 be officially released as 1.1.1 (stable => new users, etc)

As I recall, beta 1 is pretty buggy though. I'd expect a stable release to have corrected the pdaXrom long running bugs, which I've mentioned before, of incorrect keymaps, poor suspecd/resume, and incorrectly sized windows when starting up various bundled apps.

[karlto]

- 1.1.0beta1 be officially released as 1.1.1 (stable => new users, etc)

As I recall, beta 1 is pretty buggy though. I'd expect a stable release to have corrected the pdaXrom long running bugs, which I've mentioned before, of incorrect keymaps, poor suspecd/resume, and incorrectly sized windows when starting up various bundled apps.
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Well, this is exactly the problem - I don't know (and I don't think anyone else here does either!) exactly which version is what. But if someone who did know were to re-number them along the same lines, then we would all be in the picture, perhaps?

I realise that whichever version is chosen as release, it's not going to be 100%, but it's very confusing to stay in beta forever...

[Chero]

- 1.1.0beta1 be officially released as 1.1.1 (stable => new users, etc)

As I recall, beta 1 is pretty buggy though. I'd expect a stable release to have corrected the pdaXrom long running bugs, which I've mentioned before, of incorrect keymaps, poor suspecd/resume, and incorrectly sized windows when starting up various bundled apps.
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Well, this is exactly the problem - I don't know (and I don't think anyone else here does either!) exactly which version is what. But if someone who did know were to re-number them along the same lines, then we would all be in the picture, perhaps?

I realise that whichever version is chosen as release, it's not going to be 100%, but it's very confusing to stay in beta forever...
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beta3 hasn't let me down so far.

[omro]

beta3 hasn't let me down so far.
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It may not have let you down, but you're a pretty bright chap, you take the base pdaXrom and change the window manager and clean up the niggly bugs. Most people don't really know how to do that.

Rather than flashing beta 3 and then following a set of instructions on how to tidy that up to make it more useable. It'd be nice to have a stable version that just works from the moment you flash it, with as few (there'll always be some) niggly bugs as possible.

[Snappy]

beta3 hasn't let me down so far.
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It may not have let you down, but you're a pretty bright chap, you take the base pdaXrom and change the window manager and clean up the niggly bugs. Most people don't really know how to do that.

Rather than flashing beta 3 and then following a set of instructions on how to tidy that up to make it more useable. It'd be nice to have a stable version that just works from the moment you flash it, with as few (there'll always be some) niggly bugs as possible.
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My sentiments exactly! Its a can, want to or able to.

While hobbists and developers can and are able to install and tweak it, normal users aren't able to do it.

And if there is one rom that does everything perfectly in a one-shot flashing process, I'm sure even the hobbists and developers would appreciate it.

[karlto]

beta3 hasn't let me down so far.
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It may not have let you down, but you're a pretty bright chap, you take the base pdaXrom and change the window manager and clean up the niggly bugs. Most people don't really know how to do that.

Rather than flashing beta 3 and then following a set of instructions on how to tidy that up to make it more useable. It'd be nice to have a stable version that just works from the moment you flash it, with as few (there'll always be some) niggly bugs as possible.
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My sentiments exactly! Its a can, want to or able to.

While hobbists and developers can and are able to install and tweak it, normal users aren't able to do it.

And if there is one rom that does everything perfectly in a one-shot flashing process, I'm sure even the hobbists and developers would appreciate it.
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... And we're back at the start again. I guess this is why pdaXrom is still version numbered as beta; not yet ready for general use...

[Meanie]

beta3 hasn't let me down so far.
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It may not have let you down, but you're a pretty bright chap, you take the base pdaXrom and change the window manager and clean up the niggly bugs. Most people don't really know how to do that.

Rather than flashing beta 3 and then following a set of instructions on how to tidy that up to make it more useable. It'd be nice to have a stable version that just works from the moment you flash it, with as few (there'll always be some) niggly bugs as possible.
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My sentiments exactly! Its a can, want to or able to.

While hobbists and developers can and are able to install and tweak it, normal users aren't able to do it.

And if there is one rom that does everything perfectly in a one-shot flashing process, I'm sure even the hobbists and developers would appreciate it.
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... And we're back at the start again. I guess this is why pdaXrom is still version numbered as beta; not yet ready for general use...
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i think the sentiment is shared by a lot of other people that beta1/beta3 was almost there and with a few extra tweaks and bug fixes it could had been made into a stable release but instead, we got a new alpha release called beta4. i guess, what we really need is someone to clean up beta1/beta3 and build flashable images and feeds for all models.
as much as I would love to do that, I can't due to my frequent travel requirements.