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« Reply #30 on: July 09, 2006, 03:55:13 am »
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here is my personal list: emacs-x11 (there is a package without X)  erlang hugs mozart ocaml guile (to try to learn different languages and to run examples from books)
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hugs, ocaml and guile (ruby as well) are already in OE, so half your list should be ready to go into the feeds
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« Reply #31 on: July 18, 2006, 07:44:28 am »
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OOo has alreadby been noted and is being worked on. I should be receiving an ARM board with 256MB ram next week so I can do a native build
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Forgive my repeated ignorance, as I'm curious about how this works. Why would you need an ARM board?
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« Reply #32 on: July 18, 2006, 07:46:52 am »
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OOo has alreadby been noted and is being worked on. I should be receiving an ARM board with 256MB ram next week so I can do a native build
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Forgive my repeated ignorance, as I'm curious about how this works. Why would you need an ARM board?
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You can't really crosscompile OOo, since that buildsystem is a mess. I also spotted some hardcoded /usr/include entries, so building it natively would be easier and 'safer' from a purist POV.
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« Reply #33 on: July 18, 2006, 10:08:01 am »
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OOo has alreadby been noted and is being worked on. I should be receiving an ARM board with 256MB ram next week so I can do a native build
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Forgive my repeated ignorance, as I'm curious about how this works. Why would you need an ARM board?
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You can't really crosscompile OOo, since that buildsystem is a mess. I also spotted some hardcoded /usr/include entries, so building it natively would be easier and 'safer' from a purist POV.
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I'm guessing it would take way too long to do natively on a Z?

Can you use the board for other things? Will it be of long term benefit to other projects?
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« Reply #34 on: July 18, 2006, 10:38:52 am »
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OOo has alreadby been noted and is being worked on. I should be receiving an ARM board with 256MB ram next week so I can do a native build
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Forgive my repeated ignorance, as I'm curious about how this works. Why would you need an ARM board?
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You can't really crosscompile OOo, since that buildsystem is a mess. I also spotted some hardcoded /usr/include entries, so building it natively would be easier and 'safer' from a purist POV.
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I'm guessing it would take way too long to do natively on a Z?

Can you use the board for other things? Will it be of long term benefit to other projects?
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Most of the 'too long' is caused by only having 64MB ram, so getting a board with 256MB will speed up compiling c++ and java stuff *a lot* since you can avoid swapping to CF/SD.
I also have enough other ARM boards and devices to make running distcc usefull

The board will be used to work on native stuff for Ångström and OE.
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« Reply #35 on: July 19, 2006, 10:23:05 am »
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Most of the 'too long' is caused by only having 64MB ram, so getting a board with 256MB will speed up compiling c++ and java stuff *a lot* since you can avoid swapping to CF/SD.
I also have enough other ARM boards and devices to make running distcc usefull

The board will be used to work on native stuff for Ångström and OE.
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Sounds like you're almost salivating at the thought of getting your hands on it!
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« Reply #36 on: August 05, 2006, 06:53:40 am »
dare I ask how it's going?
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« Reply #37 on: August 22, 2006, 01:09:39 am »
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dare I ask how it's going?
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Does anyone know where to download zaurus-debian-big-v0.15.tgz ?

All the sites are down now???

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« Reply #38 on: August 23, 2006, 04:38:46 pm »
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dare I ask how it's going?
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Did the arm board help with OOo?
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« Reply #39 on: August 23, 2006, 06:35:06 pm »
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Does anyone know where to download zaurus-debian-big-v0.15.tgz ?

All the sites are down now???

JP
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..Klaus is having a few probs renewing the domain at the moment...he emailed me very promptly when I mentioned about having probs accessing the pocketworkstation.org site.

The above mirror works well.

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« Reply #40 on: August 23, 2006, 07:46:42 pm »
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Does anyone know where to download zaurus-debian-big-v0.15.tgz ?

All the sites are down now???

JP
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..Klaus is having a few probs renewing the domain at the moment...he emailed me very promptly when I mentioned about having probs accessing the pocketworkstation.org site.

The above mirror works well.

Cheers,

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Thanks for the reply.
I have pdaxrom flashed on my C700 now. However, I'm really keen on getting a chrooted debian environment .

I need the following on my Z.

GTK 2
PERL
RUBY
PYTHON

Questions:
Would pocketworkstation work with PdaXrom?
Does Debian use the PdaXrom X server or run its on?
How will this run on the C700?

Final Question:
Am I going about this all wrong? Do I need to put debian on my C700 to achieve getting the packages above?

My goal is to use the PDA to develop RFID applications. I have an ACG reader (CF2) card and need the dev capabilities above.

CHeers!!!!

JP

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« Reply #41 on: August 23, 2006, 10:20:13 pm »
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Does anyone know where to download zaurus-debian-big-v0.15.tgz ?

All the sites are down now???

JP
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..Klaus is having a few probs renewing the domain at the moment...he emailed me very promptly when I mentioned about having probs accessing the pocketworkstation.org site.

The above mirror works well.

Cheers,

zedkatuf.
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Thanks for the reply.
I have pdaxrom flashed on my C700 now. However, I'm really keen on getting a chrooted debian environment .

I need the following on my Z.

GTK 2
PERL
RUBY
PYTHON

Questions:
Would pocketworkstation work with PdaXrom?
Does Debian use the PdaXrom X server or run its on?
How will this run on the C700?

Final Question:
Am I going about this all wrong? Do I need to put debian on my C700 to achieve getting the packages above?

My goal is to use the PDA to develop RFID applications. I have an ACG reader (CF2) card and need the dev capabilities above.

CHeers!!!!

JP
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pdaXrom already has gtk2, python, perl and maybe even ruby and you can just compile it if it doesn't. why are you so obsessed with debian?
the question you should be asking is whether the Zaurus will even recognise your RFID card and whether you will be able to use it in the first place since you would need to get the appropriate kernel modules compiled for it if they don't exist yet. pocketworkstation does not have its own kernel for the Zaurus so it would be quite useless.
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« Reply #42 on: August 23, 2006, 10:30:58 pm »
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Thanks for the reply.
I have pdaxrom flashed on my C700 now. However, I'm really keen on getting a chrooted debian environment .

I need the following on my Z.

GTK 2
PERL
RUBY
PYTHON

Questions:
Would pocketworkstation work with PdaXrom?
Does Debian use the PdaXrom X server or run its on?
How will this run on the C700?

Final Question:
Am I going about this all wrong? Do I need to put debian on my C700 to achieve getting the packages above?

My goal is to use the PDA to develop RFID applications. I have an ACG reader (CF2) card and need the dev capabilities above.

CHeers!!!!

JP
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pdaXrom already has gtk2, python, perl and maybe even ruby and you can just compile it if it doesn't. why are you so obsessed with debian?
the question you should be asking is whether the Zaurus will even recognise your RFID card and whether you will be able to use it in the first place since you would need to get the appropriate kernel modules compiled for it if they don't exist yet. pocketworkstation does not have its own kernel for the Zaurus so it would be quite useless.
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Well.. I'm not obsessed with debian. It's just something that I'm comfortable with.
I didn't know that perl was included..  "perl" from the command line says command not found. DO I need to install it from a feed?

As for the hardware goes.. there is an .ipk for the RfDump program but I don't think I need any drivers for it? I'll look more into that.

I'm guessing that linux talks to it like a modem or something ( 9600 baud so on )

The more I use pdaxrom the more I like it I must say. It was freezing a lot on me until I deleted a lot of files from my CF and SD for some reason. Not it's working a lot better. It seemed this was just with the pointer ( bash would still respond )

Thanks

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« Reply #43 on: October 23, 2006, 05:36:24 am »
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Is this of any use from the pdaXrom

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« Reply #44 on: November 22, 2006, 07:19:27 pm »
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Does anyone know where to download zaurus-debian-big-v0.15.tgz ?

All the sites are down now???

JP
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Later version but I've just installed Meanie's debian jumbo from here
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