This is my take on OZ development. There needs to be comprehensive documentation on how to get started. A command by command step on how/where to download source, what command to build and what to get started would be of great help.
Most people get turned off by the fact they have no clue (myself included) where to start. Instead of writing a 1 page doc, if actual commands are given to
download
build
Test run the environment
That would go a long way in enlisting new members.
Also, for each app, have a list of small todos so newbies can take a shot at it. Also should have good doc on each app head as to how to build it, what package is needed to run it on a particular h/w, what needs to be fixed, what priorty etc.
The problem with OZ site is it is hardly updated and is skimpy on the details.
No offense meant Mickey, I greatly appreciate what you guys are doing. You guys are the only reason I\'m still sticking to Z. But this is what I think is honestly missing. It is not that people are dumb or anything, I know if we really put our mind to it, we can figure out how to get the source, do the test build and get started, but if all this info is already available, it makes it easy.
I guess it is just inertia!
I agree 100%. I have *yet* to get the old build system to work. I have yet to get the NEW build system to work. Yes, two people are doing all of the work, but perhaps the effort is in the wrong place! I\'ll say there are no docs, you\'ll come back and insist there are... perhaps even give a link. I\'ll try the docs, and the second command will fail. I\'ll stae this. You\'ll come back \"well, it works for me\" ... and, another developer doesn\'t come on board.
face it -- if you want more people to help -- you\'ve got to HELP more people! I\'m glad -- we\'re glad... it works for you. But, it just doesn\'t work for me/us.
I have a redhat 7.2 machine. I have absolutely NO WAY to upgrade the OS. Sorry. I have a freebsd 5.2-CURRENT machine... it\'s slow, and not good for a dev machine. Where are the docs that will show me how to do OE build system on either of these? Where do I go to get a question anwered where I won\'t be told \"well, it works for me\" or have to wait 3 weeks for a sentence to be completed to answer my question?
Make a damn wiki for this. Have a page that has the steps... when people post questions
into the wiki with links off the howto page, there should be answers. timely answers. Ya, ya, you\'re developng the build system -- but the fact is, that energy is probably better put into getting more developers on board.
I\'m working on the pdaXrom -- why? there\'s an SDK. Does it work? Seems to -- for most people. Did it work for me? of course not... but, I\'m working through the issues and people are actually working with me.
OZ has the right idea -- but I agree that two people probably can\'t keep it up to the excellent standards at the same pace
just my opinion.
Scott
