Icewm - The Ultimate Configuration

[Meanie]

Nice new packages, thanks for these meanie!

I notice that it runs faster than the older ipk I used from the start of this thread, especially scrolling up and down the menu.

Is it possible to tweak the menu items at the bottom like Rotate/Exit/Reboot/Suspend - These aren't shown in my menu file and I would like to change them, if I add my own in ~/.icewm/menu they are then duplicated.

The suspend option from the menu seems to work differently to my normal suspend command (xset dpms force off ) and has crashed on resume a couple of times, I would like to change the suspend command for this menu item.

cheers!
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great that it runs faster

the bottom items (rotate/exit/reboot/suspend) are currently hardcoded. the proper thing would be to make them configurable, but that's more work and I dont know whether i have the time to do that right now. maybe some time in the future...

the suspend currently is calling "apm --suspend". i prolly can change it to "xset dpms force off" since that's what openbox is calling as well i think...

the tray apps are reloaded by the icetbfix script which gets the applets from /usr/bin/ice-session.
it should be in some config file like the way matchbox does it. probably will stick it in ~/.icewm/icedock

btw, can you send me your winoptions?

[zi99y]

I wondered if they were hardcoded as I tried grepping for them.. Could you not just leave them out of the code and add them by hand to ~/.icewm/menu ? I'm guessing you didn't do this so you could position them at the bottom...

If you have to leave them hardcoded, could you have them point to a script that we can modify say /etc/icewm/sysmenu/rotate /etc/icewm/sysmenu/suspend or something like that?

Could you tell me which rotate script is being called from the menu?

Here is my winoptions:

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# IceWM custom winoptions by zi99y for pdaxrom
# File should be placed in ~/.icewm/winoptions

xterm.icon: xterm
rxvt.icon: xterm
nxterm.icon: xterm
Gimp.icon: gimp
fte.icon: fte
emacs.Emacs.icon: emacs
AcroRead.icon: pdf
Netscape.icon: netscape
Navigator.Netscape.icon: communicator-browser
MailThread.Netscape.icon: communicator-mail
MailFolder.Netscape.icon: communicator-mail
Editor.Netscape.icon: communicator-composer
AddressBook.Netscape.icon: communicator-abook
AWTapp.icon: java
xv.icon: xv
xv.nonICCCMconfigureRequest: 1
xload.icon: xload
mozillaComponentBar.icon: netscape
mozillaComponentBar.layer: OnTop
mozillaComponentBar.ignoreTaskBar: 1
mozillaComponentBar.allWorkspaces: 1
mozillaComponentBar.dSysMenu: 0
xeyes.ignoreWinList: 0
xeyes.ignoreTaskBar: 1
xeyes.allWorkspaces: 1
xeyes.dTitleBar: 0
xeyes.dBorder: 0
xeyes.dSysMenu: 0
xeyes.dResize: 0
xeyes.dClose: 0
xeyes.dMinimize: 0
xeyes.dMaximize: 0
xeyes.ignoreNoFocusHint: 1

XClock.ignoreNoFocusHint: 1
Vim.icon: vim

applix.ignoreNoFocusHint: 1
XDdts.noFocusOnAppRaise: 1
Wingz.noFocusOnAppRaise: 1
WingzPro.noFocusOnAppRaise: 1

gkrellm.Gkrellm.allWorkspaces: 1
gkrellm.Gkrellm.ignoreTaskBar: 1
gkrellm.Gkrellm.layer: Below
#gkrellm.Gkrellm.doNotCover: 1

MainWindow.licq.allWorkspaces: 1
MainWindow.licq.ignoreQuickSwitch: 1
MainWindow.licq.ignoreWinList: 1
MainWindow.licq.layer: Below
#MainWindow.licq.doNotCover: 1

xvkbd.XVkbd.layer: OnTop
xvkbd.XVkbd.allWorkspaces: 1
xvkbd.XVkbd.tray: Exclusive
xvkbd.XVkbd.fClose: 0
xvkbd.XVkbd.dClose: 0
xvkbd.XVkbd.dResize: 0
xvkbd.XVkbd.dBorder: 0
xvkbd.XVkbd.fMaximize: 0
xvkbd.XVkbd.dMaximize: 0
xvkbd.XVkbd.dSysMenu: 0
#xvkbd.XVkbd.geometry: =400x200
xvkbd.XVkbd.ignoreWinList: 1
xvkbd.XVkbd.ignoreQuickSwitch: 1

feh.feh.dBorder: 0
feh.feh.dTitleBar: 0

mrxvt.XTerm.tray: Exclusive
mrxvt.XTerm.icon: xterm

rightmouse.rightmouse.tray: Exclusive
rightmouse.rightmouse.icon: xload
rightmouse.rightmouse.geometry: =1x1+1000+1000
rightmouse is a custom script of mine to switch to the right mouse button and switch back again, useful when the keyboard is folded away. A tray icon shows when mouse button is switched. If needed I can post details of this (it's pretty basic).

[Meanie]

the menu file is not the place for these items. once the coding is done properly, the option of showing or hiding them individually should be in the preferences file.

the rotate script is the same as the one for openbox, ie rotate.sh which in turn calls x11scr
reboot calls Reboot which is again the same that openbox calls
suspend does seem to be at odds, so i am probably going to create a suspend.sh or something and call that.

thanks for the winoptions. i am going to customise the winoptions quite a lot so you get nice matching icons in the taskbar.

btw, do you know how to set winoptions so that rox filer icon wont be flashing in the taskbar when it is automatically run in the xinitrc script?

my current workaround is to use wmctrl to force it to the foreground which in effect is clicking on the flashing icon to make it disappear...
 

I wondered if they were hardcoded as I tried grepping for them.. Could you not just leave them out of the code and add them by hand to ~/.icewm/menu ? I'm guessing you didn't do this so you could position them at the bottom...

If you have to leave them hardcoded, could you have them point to a script that we can modify say /etc/icewm/sysmenu/rotate /etc/icewm/sysmenu/suspend or something like that?

Could you tell me which rotate script is being called from the menu?

Here is my winoptions:

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# IceWM custom winoptions by zi99y for pdaxrom
# File should be placed in ~/.icewm/winoptions

xterm.icon: xterm
rxvt.icon: xterm
nxterm.icon: xterm
Gimp.icon: gimp
fte.icon: fte
emacs.Emacs.icon: emacs
AcroRead.icon: pdf
Netscape.icon: netscape
Navigator.Netscape.icon: communicator-browser
MailThread.Netscape.icon: communicator-mail
MailFolder.Netscape.icon: communicator-mail
Editor.Netscape.icon: communicator-composer
AddressBook.Netscape.icon: communicator-abook
AWTapp.icon: java
xv.icon: xv
xv.nonICCCMconfigureRequest: 1
xload.icon: xload
mozillaComponentBar.icon: netscape
mozillaComponentBar.layer: OnTop
mozillaComponentBar.ignoreTaskBar: 1
mozillaComponentBar.allWorkspaces: 1
mozillaComponentBar.dSysMenu: 0
xeyes.ignoreWinList: 0
xeyes.ignoreTaskBar: 1
xeyes.allWorkspaces: 1
xeyes.dTitleBar: 0
xeyes.dBorder: 0
xeyes.dSysMenu: 0
xeyes.dResize: 0
xeyes.dClose: 0
xeyes.dMinimize: 0
xeyes.dMaximize: 0
xeyes.ignoreNoFocusHint: 1

XClock.ignoreNoFocusHint: 1
Vim.icon: vim

applix.ignoreNoFocusHint: 1
XDdts.noFocusOnAppRaise: 1
Wingz.noFocusOnAppRaise: 1
WingzPro.noFocusOnAppRaise: 1

gkrellm.Gkrellm.allWorkspaces: 1
gkrellm.Gkrellm.ignoreTaskBar: 1
gkrellm.Gkrellm.layer: Below
#gkrellm.Gkrellm.doNotCover: 1

MainWindow.licq.allWorkspaces: 1
MainWindow.licq.ignoreQuickSwitch: 1
MainWindow.licq.ignoreWinList: 1
MainWindow.licq.layer: Below
#MainWindow.licq.doNotCover: 1

xvkbd.XVkbd.layer: OnTop
xvkbd.XVkbd.allWorkspaces: 1
xvkbd.XVkbd.tray: Exclusive
xvkbd.XVkbd.fClose: 0
xvkbd.XVkbd.dClose: 0
xvkbd.XVkbd.dResize: 0
xvkbd.XVkbd.dBorder: 0
xvkbd.XVkbd.fMaximize: 0
xvkbd.XVkbd.dMaximize: 0
xvkbd.XVkbd.dSysMenu: 0
#xvkbd.XVkbd.geometry: =400x200
xvkbd.XVkbd.ignoreWinList: 1
xvkbd.XVkbd.ignoreQuickSwitch: 1

feh.feh.dBorder: 0
feh.feh.dTitleBar: 0

mrxvt.XTerm.tray: Exclusive
mrxvt.XTerm.icon: xterm

rightmouse.rightmouse.tray: Exclusive
rightmouse.rightmouse.icon: xload
rightmouse.rightmouse.geometry: =1x1+1000+1000
rightmouse is a custom script of mine to switch to the right mouse button and switch back again, useful when the keyboard is folded away. A tray icon shows when mouse button is switched. If needed I can post details of this (it's pretty basic).
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[zi99y]

I've looked into the flashing rox task prob before and had not joy- I would expect this to work but it doesn't

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ROX-Pinboard.ROX-Filer.ignoreWinList: 1
ROX-Pinboard.ROX-Filer.ignoreTaskBar: 1The same thing happens on my debian server using the icewm/rox combo, so we are not alone (http://www.nabble.com/--icewm-Bugs-1646042---rox---flashing-tab-in-taskbar-t3128373.html)

I suspect that the WM_CLASS of the initial process that shows the task flashing is of a different class to the desktop process that finally loads, as all I have to discover WM_CLASS is xprop which only shows current window properties.

[Meanie]

I've looked into the flashing rox task prob before and had not joy- I would expect this to work but it doesn't

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ROX-Pinboard.ROX-Filer.ignoreWinList: 1
ROX-Pinboard.ROX-Filer.ignoreTaskBar: 1The same thing happens on my debian server using the icewm/rox combo, so we are not alone (http://www.nabble.com/--icewm-Bugs-1646042---rox---flashing-tab-in-taskbar-t3128373.html)

I suspect that the WM_CLASS of the initial process that shows the task flashing is of a different class to the desktop process that finally loads, as all I have to discover WM_CLASS is xprop which only shows current window properties.
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i know it does not flash and disappears quietly in 1.2.20, but 1.2.30 it flashes annoyingly  have not had time to track down which line of code is the culprit and probably wont since i got a hacky workaround for it and my time is better spend fixing other more important things...

well the good thing is that i now know that it wasn't my fault. i thought it was due to me having wrong winoptions

[zi99y]

The apm suspend is almost a showstopper for me as pdaxrom has locked solid 3 times now using this method - unfortunatly I am so accustomed to using the menu option that I forget when I need a quick suspend on the train or whatever, and when I turn back on the problem occurs.

Are you likely to make another ipk soon, so I can change this? Let me know if I can help at all

[Meanie]

The apm suspend is almost a showstopper for me as pdaxrom has locked solid 3 times now using this method - unfortunatly I am so accustomed to using the menu option that I forget when I need a quick suspend on the train or whatever, and when I turn back on the problem occurs.

Are you likely to make another ipk soon, so I can change this? Let me know if I can help at all
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this is an interim release, more updates coming...


this update includes custom scripts suspend, reboot, rotate and icedock under /etc/icewm

[zi99y]

many thanks, will test asap

[zi99y]

Ok I have my preferred suspend cmd working now - great! A couple of 'bugs' to report-

1.
need execute permission for non-root user:
/etc/sysconfig/clamshell/scripts.d/x11scr

2.
/usr/bin/rotate.sh does not point to above script

3.
The keyboard launcher command does not work in the x11scr script:

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if pidof xvkbd >/dev/null; then xvkbdlauncher; fi
I have replaced with:

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if [ -z `ps aux | pgrep xvkbd` ]
    then xvkbd -geometry 480x175+0+440 -iconic -no-keypad -modal
    fi
and also have removed the xvkbd titlebar in ~/.icewm/winoptions like so

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xvkbd.XVkbd.dTitleBar: 0
This all works brilliantly when I rotate the screen the keyboard loads in the tray and when you click it appears positioned perfectly at the bottom of the screen- no titlebar so resize not possible, and clicking the tray icon minimises again.. nice.

[zi99y]

Another small problem worth mentioning- in x11scr there is a test to see if ROX-Filer is running, which it the runs rox-bset. However if you aren't using the pinboard but have a rox window open (which is how I use it), it runs rox-bset and loads the rox pinboard! I have commented this out for my needs.

[Meanie]

fixed all the lil bugs in rotation script

also fixed icewm properly now so all the menu items are now configurable in the preference file. the corresponding commands for the menu items are also properly integrated into the preference file and thus the temporary scripts rotate/suspend/reboot under /etc/icewm have been removed.

added lots of icon mappings in winoptions so that most apps now launched under icewm have their icon displayed on the taskbar instead of a big X.

[zi99y]

good stuff.

I have changed the new window sizes when switching to portrait so that they only fill 3/4 of the screen, then the virtual keyboard sits nicely below the above window. Also I have the far right silkscreen button mapped to fullscreen so a quick click maximises the current window. very profesh

Also when switching to landscape xvkbd gets killed as it's not needed in that mode.

I removed mb-applet-blanker from ~/.icedock as I don't use it, can someone tell me what use it is, if I use the blank screen option it turns the screen off and I don't know how to turn it back on!!! It would be very useful if I knew how to turn back on and it locked the touchscreen, is it possible?

[Meanie]

oops, forgot to attach the updated packages

once you blanked the screen with the blanker applet, you need to tap on the screen to reenable it.

and btw, thanks for all your suggestions and testing. this is going to make icewm truely the most usable wm for pdaXrom...

[Jon_J]

meanie, I'm using your latest icewm. I unloaded rox in pdaxii13.conf
I launched icewm from xselect (I'm not using my old icewm startup method or startup settings)
I cannot seem to get wallpaper working now. I only have a crosshatched background.
I placed my wallpaper setting in prefoverride, but it doesn't show up. (This is how I changed wallpaper in my previous icewm)
When launching icewm, is "icewm-session" being loaded?
This is what loads "icewmbg"
"icewmbg" controls the background.

EDIT:
prefoverride doesn't seem to be used at all.
I copied prefoverride to /home/root/.icewm
My LED clock setting and fonts setting no longer work, as well as my wallpaper selection.

EDIT2:
I removed mb-applet-blanker like zi99y did.
I got the LED clock working in my preferred theme (IceQua)
But now the battery/charge indicator is a blank rectangle on the taskbar, what is causing this?
I just unplugged my Z from external power, now this black rectangle has 100% showing.
It is LED, like the clock. It goes blank when I plug my Z back in to external power.
See screenshot.
I still have no background, how do I enable it?
The older version of icewm has a blue background in the IceQua theme, with no wallpaper loaded.

[Jon_J]

Looking at xselect, this loads "ice-session" and not "icewm-session"
Looking at ice-session, this loads "icewm"
Don't we need to load "icewm-session", which in turn loads "icewmbg"
Why are we loading "icwm" instead of "icewm-session" in the "ice-session" file?

From the Icewm online manual:
# icewm - the actual window manager binary. This is the one you need to get window decorations.
# icewmbg - the background setting applications. It can assign plain background color or images in different formats to the X background, shared or separated for different workspaces. This program should be started before IceWM startup.
# icewmtray - catches the Docklet objects installed by various applications like PSI
# icewm-session - runs all of the above when needed