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« Reply #135 on: March 21, 2007, 09:20:52 am »
Good move... Here's some reassurance while-U-wait :

- I believe the keyboard issue is mostly a matter of getting used to it and "breaking in" the keys by using it some. At first I had the same experience as related by others here, but I find it less the case as time goes by.

- I have no problems with the touchpad and mouse buttons - certainly less so than with a lot of regular laptops I've used in the past. The keyboard is reasonably discreet, typically laptop-like.

- my eyes aren't brand new either but I find the screen quite usable. I also have a Nokia 770 Internet Tablet, with the same resolution but with a 4" screen, and *that* is sometimes hard to squint at. The larger screen on the KJS makes a lot of difference. With the hardware scroll buttons at the side, the reduced vertical size is less of an issue.

All in all, if used for what it's designed to do, the KJS is a very nice sublaptop at a very good price compared to others for its size, weight, autonomy and connectivity.
« Last Edit: March 21, 2007, 09:21:47 am by fpp »

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« Reply #136 on: March 21, 2007, 10:32:51 am »
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Thanks for the encouragement, I can hardly wait.
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« Reply #137 on: March 21, 2007, 11:31:39 am »
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cycle_55,
Thanks for the info.
I guess another question I have about the keyboard and mouse keys is are they quiet when you press them, like the average keyboard/mouse, or do they a make a clicking sound?
I know I'm asking a lot of questions, but I have a need to know this stuff.

After all this, I guess the deciding factor for me might be the squashed-up screen (or maybe chopped-off would be more accurate).
Being among the senior citizen crowd, my eyes are getting a little on the old side and I'm thinking web pages and such might be a little hard to read.

Thanks again,
Doug

EDIT:
I just broke down and ordered one, so we'll see how it is when it gets here.
I'll report back with my conclusions.
Thank you all for your very helpful information.

I have a set of cd's for Slackware 10, so maybe I'll install that on the second partition.
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Yes, please, provide more info. Today, once again, before March paycheck, I have found myself wandering over conics.net and dynamism .... Where are you getting your from? Did you get a discount over web price?

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« Reply #138 on: March 21, 2007, 12:52:05 pm »
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Yes, please, provide more info. Today, once again, before March paycheck, I have found myself wandering over conics.net and dynamism .... Where are you getting your from?
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I bought it from Conics.
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Did you get a discount over web price?
The price is listed on their site (no discounts).
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« Reply #139 on: March 21, 2007, 02:19:53 pm »
Has anybody tried running Linux on one of these yet?
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« Reply #140 on: March 21, 2007, 04:02:19 pm »
See the posts by Kopsis earlier in the thread and go read his blog posts on the KJS. He tried, and it boots Linux just as it should, and then there are the (unfortunately usual) issues with this kind of customized hardware : running X in 800*480 on that video chipset, keyboard layout, Wifi and BT support and so on...

Most of those are probably solvable, but as he says, he bought the critter to use it, not to tinker with it, so he didn't want to spend the time and effort. If someone does, thought, it could make a nice little Linux sublaptop...

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« Reply #141 on: March 21, 2007, 09:10:55 pm »
Here's something that would be an awesome feature for this little Kohjinsha...

If someone could come up with a program that would allow you to run a zaurus rom/distro in a directory the same way Dosbox allows you to run Dos and its applications.
It could be called ZaurusBox.
I have no idea if something like this is possible or not, but it's food for thought.
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« Reply #142 on: March 21, 2007, 10:09:07 pm »
qemu with full arm system emulation?

just added recently, sure it isnt the Z but the platform they did simulate is quite capable and would run most Z software, you might need to tweak the distro a bit but that should be it
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« Reply #143 on: March 22, 2007, 08:19:21 am »
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« Reply #144 on: March 22, 2007, 11:52:05 am »
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Here's something that would be an awesome feature for this little Kohjinsha...

If someone could come up with a program that would allow you to run a zaurus rom/distro in a directory the same way Dosbox allows you to run Dos and its applications.
It could be called ZaurusBox.
I have no idea if something like this is possible or not, but it's food for thought.
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download it quick before it disappears
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« Reply #145 on: March 22, 2007, 12:43:42 pm »
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Here's something that would be an awesome feature for this little Kohjinsha...

If someone could come up with a program that would allow you to run a zaurus rom/distro in a directory the same way Dosbox allows you to run Dos and its applications.
It could be called ZaurusBox.
I have no idea if something like this is possible or not, but it's food for thought.
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[a href=\"http://www.virtera.com/]http://www.virtera.com/[/url]

download it quick before it disappears
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I downloaded this last year.
I don't think it would run on the Kohjinsha SA1F00A/SA1F00B, unless this small laptop can run Linux natively.
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3.Host Requirements and Pre-requisite Software
The requirements for the host computer are:
• IBM PC compatible, Intel or AMD x86 processor with clock speed 1.0 GHz or higher:
• Intel Pentium 4 or Xeon.
• AMD Athlon or Opteron.
• 512MB of RAM and 10MB of available hard disk space (in directory /opt).
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Last year when I signed up and downloaded this, there was a description on the website that said "There may be support for Microsoft Windows at a later date"
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« Reply #146 on: March 23, 2007, 01:31:31 pm »
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qemu with full arm system emulation?
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Theoretically possible, but performance on the Kohji would be really poor. You'd be looking a speeds on par with underclocking a Z to 50MHz or less. A better move would be to build OE for x86 and run that in QEMU with KQEMU acceleration. I've actually run a Debian server VM that way on the Kohji and it worked pretty well. Note that VMWare, Parallels, and (probably) VirtualPC don't support the Kohji's Geode processor, so QEMU is about your only high performance virtualization option.

As for Kohji screen concerns ... the screen is awesome! It's one of the machine's best features. The native 800x480 resolution is sharp and clear and surprisingly usable for most tasks. I find that I can use it for long periods with no eye strain and I seldom ever have to switch to one of the higher "scaled" resolutions.

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« Reply #147 on: March 23, 2007, 01:42:58 pm »
Same here. I only ever use the Fn-Esc thing for those huge dialogs where some widgets or buttons are off-screen...

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« Reply #148 on: March 28, 2007, 09:25:55 am »
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I just broke down and ordered one, so we'll see how it is when it gets here.
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My Kohji was shipped out a few hours ago.
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« Reply #149 on: April 01, 2007, 09:55:49 am »
I received my Kohji yesterday.
I'm still messing around with it.
Will post more details later.
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