New Zaurus Successor?

[speculatrix]

so where does a soon to be owner hang out for the latest info on these things?

they're just small PCs, so no expertise required :-)
just stick in a gentoo disk and wait three months for everything to build!

[gr8ful]

so where does a soon to be owner hang out for the latest info on these things?

just wondering if there is a forum or a haciking gudie on it, google dosent turn up much and at the moment i am wonedring about wifi support under linux. cant seem to get the chipset (anyone able to do a lspci for me?)

[edit]

can anyone confirm if it has 333Mhz ram or 400Mhz ram, the data sheets say it supports 400 but the specs that i have seen all say it ships with 333 (looking to upgrade a bit )
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Here's a UMPC site that has news, information and comparisons.  There is also a forum, but I'm not sure how helpful it is.

[a href=\"http://www.umpcportal.com/modules/news/]http://www.umpcportal.com/modules/news/[/url]

[fpp]

I don't know of any better forum than here :-)

The resident guru (ie the guy who got one first) is kopsis, look for his blog in his sig, he did some quick tests with Linux.

[Ling]

I have tried to get a response from the author, but no joy... if anyone else has any actual experience with the Toshiba Libretto U100 versus the K, I would be interested. My concerns with the K are:

1) Japanese keyboard, keyboard size, key action, etc.
2) Type I CF versus Type II or PCMCIA
3) No port replicator dock option
4) Looks like there will be issues with Linux compatibility

For more money, the U100 seems to address all of these from a proven company with strong support in the US for a US model notebook. I am interested in thoughts from those who have owned both or at least tried both. Thanks.

**UPDATE** Didn't want to add any more off-topic stuff to this thread, but thought I would note that I bought a U100. Thanks to Kahm for the feedback.

[Da_Blitz]

i have some big plans for this thing

just wondering if there is anyone out there who would benifit from my hacking on it

the only problem i can see is with wifi, after checking the amd site it seems that most of thier patches are in the mainline kernel and x.org (or so they say) which is a good thing, shame about the lack of 3d but i can live with that

at the moment because i cant get a ssd for the thing i was thinking that i might be able to cram 3x CF cards in there (8GB a peice) as i dont really need the 40G+ that i get with it, i am more concerned with battery life, im guessing 20MB/s/card

also i belive a custom rebuild of the battery pack is in order with higher capacity cells and see if usb client is routed out to one of the usb ports (could come in handy)

IO wise i think its good but i am thinking of putting in a IR blaster wired to the hedaphone jack for lirc support as i have used it before on my main PC and quite like it (esp. with mplayer and its new menu support meaning you dont have to leave mplayer to change files)

any one else have ideas for some more hacks?

[Da_Blitz]

actually i have been researching linux compatability

seems AMD is big on support for linux and have nearly all thier patches in the latest releases or svn (2.6.20 supports IDE, audio, Video out (Framebuffer, however marked "experimental") USB Host (no client), Hardware 128bit AES, RNG generator (these 2 are a must for me )

dont forget its the same chip as the peperpad, which means that most if not all the required patches are there

x.org wise it seems that in 7.2 or svn (of 7.2) there is support for video hardware on the chip with 2D acceleration (i assume hardware cursor, hardware rotation and hardware blt support, lower cpu overhead)

thats not to mention MMX and 3Dnow support (so thats how the do acceleration of WMV and DVD)

now moving onto the coprocessor (ie USB, IDE, Audio, LPC (think xbox modchip hack, more on this latter), it support acpi and apm, we are probelly more comfterble with APM and acpi dosent really bring much to the table (i dont think it can modulate its clock so acpi freq adjustment is most likly non exsistent)

good news is that it looks like software suspend will work quite well provided you partion properly (more on that latter) but i think suspend to ram would work welll for me (apm -s)

IDE wise it will do up to udma5 (100MB/s), im going to go out on a limb here and say that the CF card is on the ATA bus and therefore cant do CF/IO however from what i read it does support SDIO (its a software thing with a bit of hardware) which means 4bit SDIO. i dont belive this is supported by linux however. it remains to be seen. after all they might have a chip that does SD/MS/CF to USB in there

i assume wifi is on the pci bus and if so that simplifies things, else its usb and there is less support for usb than pci. im betting (and hoping) on a realtec chip. i am also assuming bluetooth is on the usb bus as it makes more sense form a driver perspective and would explain why there are only 2 usb ports on the outside

can anyone give me a lspci and lsusb output, otherwise mine should arive in the next two days and i will tell you then

it also looks like linux bios has support for both the cpu and the companion chip, meaning it should be able to boot the device. what this means is grub in flash or somthing like PXE in flash or FILO, which is basically LILO but dosent need a BIOS or etherboot

the LPC can be used to override flash (i belive) just like on the xbox, so if you want to shave some boot time without risk  anyway thats way off in the futre

as for the onscreen buttons, i mwouldnt be able to tell you if they are supported, same with teh LAN (but its a good bet that lan will just work), backligt i am not sure (this is backlight control not "will it turn on" so you can turn it on and off at will (or dim)

well thats about it cant wait to get my unit

[craigtyson]

Anyone seen / heard of this :-

http://www.europe.htc.com/products/htcadvantage.html

Dunno the price though.

Specs:-

- Mobile Power Pad with detachable thin full keyboard
- Microsoft® Windows Mobile® 5.0 Pocket PC
Phone Edition
- 133.5mm (L) x 98mm(W) x 16mm(T)
Thickness with keyboard: 20 mm
- 359g with battery pack
- Intel® PXA270 624 MHz with ATI Graphic Chip W2284
- ROM: 256MB
- RAM: 128MB SDRAM
- HDD: 8GB
- 5” transmissive colour TFT-LCD, 640x480 dot pixel
VGA resolution
- Backlight LEDs
- Touch screen
- HSDPA/UMTS
(2100 MHz for Europe, 850/1900 MHz for USA)
- GSM/GPRS/EDGE
(quad-band, 850/900/1800/1900MHz)
- Main Camera
- 3 mega-pixel CMOS imaging sensor with autofocus
- 2nd Camera
- VGA CMOS imaging sensor
- High power LED for camera flash
- Built-in microphone
- Dual speakers
- Loud speaker for Hands-Free operation
- Bluetooth® v2.0
- Wi-Fi® 802.11b/g
- Internal GPS antenna
- 20 parallel channel GPS receiver
- 3V USIM/SIM card slot
- HTC ExtUSB™ (11-pin mini-USB 2.0 and
audio jack in one)
- HTC proprietary 16-pin combined port
(USB 1.1 host/VGA and TV Out)
- HTC VueFLO™ motion sensor assisted
browsing experience.
- miniSD™ card slot
- Battery
- Removable and rechargeable Lithium-ion
battery, 2200mAh
- AC adaptor
- Voltage range/frequency: 100~240V, 50/60Hz
- MMS and Java™ applications
- Smart Dialling and Voice Speed Dial
- Comm Manager
- AMR/AAC/WAV/WMA/MP3 codec
- Adobe Reader LE for PDF
- ZIP software and more
- Available in Black
- Travel charger / HTC ExtUSB™ sync. cable / Stereo
wired headset with microphone / Stylus / Battery /
Carrying Case

[zmiq2]

Da Blitz,

is that Kohjinska you are getting your pocket peguin project now ;-) ?

Where are you getting it from ?

[Da_Blitz]

the Kohjinska is basically the same as the PP laptop that i had in mind, but at the moment i need somthing a bit more portable where speed isnt an issue (size and wieght are as well as the ability to lug files around)

one advantage is i might venture to that undifined relm known as "outside" during a festival called "the middle of the day", im expecting the worst and got the Kohjinska so i would not be unprepared

anyway got it off Ebay for 899 + 79 shipping (the SA1F00B model, http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...0490&rd=1&rd=1)


anyway the PP project is more than the hardware, thats just the first stage

[Da_Blitz]

well that was quick, 4 days from ordering to having it in my hands (Japan to Sydney Australia)

great unit, bit heavyier than i thought it wwould be however it will be lighter when i am done withit and it was easy to get used to it, keyboard was "difflent" harder than i was used to but i expect the stiffnes to be an advantage latter on

everything was set up with skype and firefox on the desktop (but not in the taskbar, only IE) which i was impressed about and drivers properly setup and drives nicly partioned

basically the attention to detail is incredabile, only problem was with wifi but encrypted networks and windows have never played nice for me

i was right about the realtech ethernet chip, but thats a given

did notice that the 800x480 is not really high enough for most of the windows option boxes

Wifi is on USB, which makes sense from a turn off/on perspective as the AMD companion chip handels power to each port as well as data, meaning easier enabling and disabling of the hardware (and no hacks to enable and disable under linux such as GPIO twiddling), driver provider in windows is windbond, however i never even knew they made wirerless chipsets

Bluetooth is also on USB, which is very nice and handy, discovery was simple and easy (that bluetooth app they have is the best example i have seen to date)

for the CF, under windows it shows up as a PCMCIA card, so its not hanging off the IDE bus (which i should not have even mentioned, didnt think about IDE not bieng hotplugable)

[fpp]

Da Blitz :

What is that "PP laptop" projet you speak about ?

How do you go about "modding" such a battery ?

PS: about the large dialogs, you did see the Fn-Esc trick, right ?...

[fpp]

Also, what was the problem with Wifi ? I have a WPA-encrypted WLAN at home and the KJS work OK with it...

[zmiq2]

Da Blitz,

is CF IO? (can you plug a IO Cf Card in the CF compartment, let's say a GSM/GPRS or modem card?)

[Da_Blitz]

sorry i only have normal CF cards, i would be able to give you more info about if it is indeed CFIO capable however it turns out my USB DVD burner is dead (i belive i crushed it)

that FN+ESC trick is nice but i dont like the bluring

the WPA problem is several parts, it dosent detect encryption on my AP however i have WPA-TKIP running on it, if i enter the settings by hand then it connects alrigh but will drop out latter (my house is a big RF shield, never worked out why, i  dont get mobile phone reception ethier) when this happens it detects my link as not having encryption and drops back to open authentication and overides the settings (ARghh, i have a 33 char password and its a pain to type twice on that keyboard, it takes me about 5 attempts)

as you can imagine it gets stuck at trying to connect to the encrypted network with settings for an unencrypted AP settingns

simple solution was a lan cable

when it did connect it didnt handel dhcp adrsess assignment properly (i says properly because it seems only windows XP machnise cant obtain an IP, *nix and WinCE get one fine)

modding the battery involves pulling the battery pack appart and chucking in higher capacity battries, thees battries are more expensive than the ones they use and hence why they are not in the thing already (its about profits )

the PP laptop project is an upsized PP PDA with heavier hardware (harddrive, bigger screen, crazy ram and battery, FPGA), but its a smal part of somthing much larger

[fpp]

Thanks for the clarifications -- just one last problem standing : I don't get what "PP" stands for :-)