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« Reply #240 on: April 30, 2007, 05:22:18 pm »
I noticed that the Cathena appeared on linuxdevices, so I told them it was already around as the Kohjinsha, and pointed them here.

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« Reply #241 on: April 30, 2007, 07:54:06 pm »
i wasent too sure if they picked up on that or not

however they do mention the company thats selling them in the us is linux friendly which is good. however all the hard work has been done for them. the hardware design is great in that its os independent. i mean the backlight, touchpad and pointer should all work under dos if you gave it a go

its only the wifi
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« Reply #242 on: May 02, 2007, 04:05:29 am »
just noticed the llatest openbsd release had a whole lot of support for the LX chip and its companion (ie this laptop) including the IDE chipset and the AES crypto engine

migh be worth giving it a shot as i am getting some wierd file system coruptoin (must not play with hdparm)
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« Reply #243 on: May 04, 2007, 11:39:15 am »
Has anyone tried using external CF wifi cards that they use with their Zauri?
I am asking because apparently the built-in usb wifi is not working well under Linux and as I found out it is most likely not supported in wifi wardriving software like NetStumbler or AiroPeek/AirMagnet.
I am considering purchasing the touch screen model on my trip to Singapore in the end of the month , but having wardriving capabilities is important to me and if internal card is not supported then at least being able to do it with my Ambicom card that serves me so well with my Z.
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« Reply #244 on: May 04, 2007, 02:42:39 pm »
The Kohjinsha has a Type I CF card slot see specs.
A wireless CF card is too wide (Type II) and will not fit in the slot.

Actually, the slot is wide enough, but they have put in some bumpers that prevent you from inserting anything wider than a regular CF card.

I don't know if a wireless card would work in it if those bumpers were removed, but I'm sure doing that would void the warranty.

Someone should check it out (but not me)
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« Reply #245 on: May 04, 2007, 07:10:24 pm »
Actually, most CF WiFi cards I've used are Type 1. The only Type 2 CF "card" I've seen is my 4G microdrive. I don't have any of my WiFi cards handy (the beauty of the SA1 is that I don't have to carry all that junk around any more) but I did find an old wired ethernet CF card and when I plugged it in, Windows detected it and prompted me to install drivers. I didn't try to go any farther than that (since I know this particular card is broken), but I don't see any reason why it shouldn't work.

Now, whether Linux running on the SA1 would see it may be another matter, but I believe a few posts back that someone (Da Blitz?) determined that the CF slot was being handled as PCMCIA just like it is on the Zaurus.

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« Reply #246 on: May 04, 2007, 08:05:51 pm »
My CF memory cards all go in the slot just fine, as does my wired ethernet CF card.
My wireless CF card is too wide and will not go into the slot, but it fits perfectly in my Zaurus.
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« Reply #247 on: May 04, 2007, 09:08:29 pm »
My ambicom wireless card goes in fine and is recognized, have not tried it with linux yet.

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« Reply #248 on: May 05, 2007, 03:08:49 am »
my netgear wifi card works fine, detected and worked
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« Reply #249 on: May 05, 2007, 06:51:03 am »
Then my wireless card must be the oddball.
It works great in my Zaurus, though.
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« Reply #250 on: May 05, 2007, 01:01:54 pm »
Thanks for all the replies guys!
I don't think my card is type II
I have read the CF specs and apparently the only difference between TYPE I and TYPE II is width and all other dimensions are the same.
My wifi card seems to be the same width as all my regular memory cards so I guess it should fit in just fine.
So Da_Blitz it worked for you under linux too?
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« Reply #251 on: May 06, 2007, 12:58:03 am »
never tested it under windows

i belive the cf2 spec calls for higher power draw, hence why the form factor is diffrent (so you cant plug a higher current device in)
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« Reply #252 on: May 06, 2007, 02:16:12 am »
Not according to http://www.compactflash.org/faqs/faq.htm
They say that the only difference between type I and type II is dimensions while electrically they are the same.
Anyway gotta wait for my trip now and hope I will find the device in Sim Lin square stores
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« Reply #253 on: May 27, 2007, 10:30:25 am »
ok, here in Singapore, I can confirm that the Kohjinsha appeared at the iKnown store under PA Mart in a world book fair in Suntec.

Two models: Black 40gb, White 100gb
Both: 512mb, touch-screen 7" *LED* backlight etc.

Only complain I have is that the keyboard ... is very stiff and small. It's more like the size of a Jornada keyboard, but stiffer. It would be more touch-typeable if it were softer. Maybe using it for a while will loosen it up, I don't know.

4-5hr batt life ... supposedly anyway.

Hope I'm not writing things that you already know.

oh, did I mention, that it has a promo price of SGD$1050 for the black unit and SGD$1199 for the white unit? Converts to 687.623 USD and     
785.200 USD respectively.

Still deliberating on getting it. If the keyboard is nicer and I'm not so used to my notebooks, I would have gotten it already.

It's nice and all ... too bad, they did not install any tablet related app to really show off the tablet mode. It comes with WindowsXP Home, and not XPTablet. Installing Office is supposed to make hand recognition work.
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« Reply #254 on: May 27, 2007, 11:13:29 am »
Here are the specs in short FYI:

CPU: AMD® Geode™ -LX800
Cache: 64KB instruction cache +64KB data cache
Graphics: AMD® Geode™ CS5536 (+ 8MB video RAM)
RAM: PC2700 (SODIMM DDR333): 512MB or 1GB (1 slot)
Display: 7-inch 800x480 touchscreen TFT LCD
Input: 77 key Japanese keyboards, touchscreen, stick pointer, scroll button and mouse button
LAN: 10BASE-T/100BASE-TX
Wireless LAN: IEEE802.11b/g
Bluetooth 2.0+EDR
Sound: Realtek AC'97 Audio, Built-in stereo speaker, Built-in microphone and brightness setting button,
External memory: 3In1 media card slot, SD memory card (SDHC & SDIO !), Memory stick/MMC card, CF card slot (Type-1)
USB: 2.0 x1
Video output: Analog CRT port ×1
Standard battery: Lithium ion battery (11.1V 2600mAH)
Drive time: ~ 5 hour
Charge time: ~ 2.2 hours
Power consumption: The maximum time 60W, usually the time at the time of 15W/economical electric power at the time of 2W and waiting under 2W
Dimensions: 218mm (W) x 163mm (D) x 25.4mm (H)
Weight: 990g (with battery)
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