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Zaurus <-> windows winpopup chat messsaging????
« on: March 05, 2004, 12:43:26 am »
On our network, we occasionally use winpopup to \'talk\' from computer to computer. Mostly fun when someone is deeply involved in a game  :twisted:
I\'ve been searching for something on the Z (5600) to communicate with windows, preferably winpopup, so I could do the same thing with the Z. I haven\'t been able to find anything at all.
I have found out that winpopup is basically an smbclient -m to: msg...
I haven\'t found an smbclient for the Z... And I don\'t know if that would work anyway?

Anyone have any ideas or know of any compatible software?

Thanks...
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Zaurus <-> windows winpopup chat messsaging????
« Reply #1 on: March 05, 2004, 05:02:15 am »
Yes it works.

You may be able to find a thread I started a long while back when I was investigating this. I was planning to use either a Z local dhcp server or ZeroConf networking to get people in the library with centrino laptops to connect so I could Winpopup them. Actually I\'ve just tried searching and it was on the devnet (this is becoming a recurring theme). Oh well.

You need smbclient, I think I got mine from ipkgfind.handhelds.org.

Works a treat in my office, I\'ve yet to try frightening poor centrino users (too much to do to go wandering around in the library).

Let me know how you get on and whether you need any help with the commands, etc.


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« Reply #2 on: March 05, 2004, 02:03:09 pm »
Thanks! I got the smbclient. Ran into a problem of samba being connected to the usb after a synch and not letting go until I rebooted. I think I read about a fix for that somewhere and have to go searching. After the reboot, smbclient complains about not finding the computer using the usb device.... I have both usb and eth0 in my smb.conf because I was worried about losing the synch with the desktop. This will take some loking into. And apparently this all will result in sendign messages only. There\'s gotta be a way to recieve them as well...
Now if someone would only write an smb message program ;-)

I\'ll give all this a bit more time later, when I have more time ;-)
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D-Link DCF-660W wireless CF (dead!)
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« Reply #3 on: March 05, 2004, 02:52:26 pm »
Okay, quick second test.

It fails if I use an IP number with a final error of \"can\'t determine netmask for usbd0
session request failed\"

If I use the computername, it works and asked for a message, terminated by a control-d.
This after I rebboted and used samba to mount a desktop shared directory so I knew things were working.
So, \"smbclient -s /home/zaurus/smb.conf -M computername\" works. I have to specify an smb.conf because it won\'t find it by itself...
The -L to list shared resources is also very useful!

It may be a bit cumbersome, but it works.

Now, anyone know how to recieve a message from another computer???
SL-5600 Sharp v.1.32 ROM
CE-AG06 camera
Linksys WCF-12 wireless CF
D-Link DCF-660W wireless CF (dead!)
Sandisk 64meg SD, 256meg CF
Kingston 512meg CF
Viking 128meg SD, 1 gig CF

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« Reply #4 on: March 05, 2004, 03:14:12 pm »
Sometime(?) my fingers work faster than my brain. I did a quick search for the samba man pages, found this:
http://www.hmug.org/man/1/smbclient.html

And it looks like you can set an action (like open a text editor) when a message arrives. this will ake a bit of reading and testing, but looks like it might work. Won\'t be as automatic as winpopup, but functional...
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Linksys WCF-12 wireless CF
D-Link DCF-660W wireless CF (dead!)
Sandisk 64meg SD, 256meg CF
Kingston 512meg CF
Viking 128meg SD, 1 gig CF

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« Reply #5 on: March 05, 2004, 10:19:22 pm »
Well, I give up for now. I added the \"message command =\" in my smb.conf. I can send messages no problem. Samba says it sees the message command. I even tried running smbd -D. smbd says it sees message command, but doesn\'t seem to stay in memory?  Nothing seems to work to recieve a message.
I\'ll do some more research when I can, but if anyone knows how to get the Z to recieve a message, please let me know...
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« Reply #6 on: March 06, 2004, 11:44:38 am »
There are a couple of Linux (Desktop, X11) apps which use smbclient as the underlying method to send and receive winpopup messages. I didn\'t look into how they do it as I only wanted to send, but if you take a look at the source you\'ll probably see what\'s going on.

A google for \'winpopup and Linux\' should find something I\'d have thought.


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« Reply #7 on: March 06, 2004, 04:11:25 pm »
Well, I found LinPopup and Kpopup, both gui and not zaurus friendly. No console apps...

I really have to get a linux development machine running.....
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« Reply #8 on: March 06, 2004, 04:33:46 pm »
Take a look at the source. I\'m pretty sure both use smbclient (I started by thinking about porting one, then realised that all I needed was smbclient which was already available), and should show you how to receive messages as well as send them.


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C750 OZ3.5.4 (GPE, 2.6.x kernel)
SL5500 OZ3.5.4 (Opie)
Nokia 770
Serial GPS, WCF-12, Socket Ethernet & BT, Ratoc USB
WinXP, Mandriva