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« on: January 31, 2007, 11:19:56 am »
Folks from russian zaurus community installed gentoo on zaurus. It's not a gentooforzaurus port, it's just usual gentoo with minor changes placed on SD card with portage files via NFS and xorg-server based on ebuild from ipaq hx4700 overlay
Actually it's "ready to make ready to use" , rather then "ready to use"
It's slightly tested on c1k and c3k
Screenshots can be found at screenshot

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« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2007, 01:24:29 pm »
yeah!
now we ve to find an english install howto
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« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2007, 01:53:06 pm »
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yeah!
now we ve to find an english install howto
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=153056\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

Indeed,

I tried to read the russian pages through bablefish, but that didn't help me that much.
I understand they use the pdaXrom uboot loader and there is an "sd-snapshot" available. But then again, I might be completely wrong, "translation bablefish through always that isn't good"

A quick howto and a list of files to download would be nice to do a few tests and take a look at it,

Please ...    

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« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2007, 03:15:57 pm »
I understand Russian ... will check it tomorrow
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« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2007, 04:21:29 pm »
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I understand Russian ... will check it tomorrow
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Please, please do!

I've been wanting to see gentoo on zaurus since the early opensystemas anouncement.

Are you going to try it out and post a how to after, maybe?
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« Reply #6 on: January 31, 2007, 04:30:23 pm »
warning: opinions abound

i use gentoo on all my linux boxes at home, including my home servers. I like it because of portage and emerge, which, IMO is the only reason to use gentoo. compiled performance enhancements are normally imagined.

a gentoo based *image* for a zaurus is a great thought and portage/emerge can also handle binary packages. maybe a zaurus model specific, binary (read arm pre-compiled), portage overlay would work well enough. portage / emerge would then have the same concept as feeds / ipkg. if someone were to try and emerge an app that wasn't in the binary ovelay, then it could dl the src and compile it. emerge -a would be your friend.

i'm not a developer by any means, but i would think that most of the already arm compiled apps for pdax/oz would be compatable, although making the ebuilds for them might be a pain. file destinations and paths might be an issue; alot of ebuilds currently in portage "gentoo-ify" file destinations when installing the finished app/lib.

however, i do agree with the gentoo dev on the last post of ArchiMark's link. doing a source based distro for a z is just plain asinine. i even curse it on my pc's at times.

if gentoo's biggest pains (install and source compiling) could be removed / limited from the general z user, then it might be worth while. leaving the arm compiling to people with more than one z and people who like punishment  

another distro choice for the z isn't necessarily a bad thing.

Just my $.02

--webslngr

edit: i found a portage pda overlay in the gentoo forums, looks like it is for an ipaq.
[link: forums.gentoo.org]
« Last Edit: January 31, 2007, 04:41:08 pm by webslngr »
c3100 running pdaXrom b3, ambicom wl1100, a 2nd 4 GB Hitachi microdrive (and various other tools and gadgets)

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« Reply #7 on: January 31, 2007, 05:03:08 pm »
Interesting ... gentoo on Z would make yet another full distro on Z.

It's good to have choices ... but isn't this bordering on "because we can" kind of choice?
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« Reply #8 on: January 31, 2007, 05:50:28 pm »
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Interesting ... gentoo on Z would make yet another full distro on Z.

It's good to have choices ... but isn't this bordering on "because we can" kind of choice?
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=153088\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]
Unless it is relatively easy to continue with gentoo from there-- this would help proof us in case OZ moves on and pdax goes static
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« Reply #9 on: January 31, 2007, 08:12:02 pm »
Don't know about others. Gentoo holds no interest to me. Much too big a pain in the butt to setup and having to compile everything on the Z would get old in a hurry. I would get much more excited about Ubuntu on the Z.
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« Reply #10 on: January 31, 2007, 08:29:55 pm »
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I would get much more excited about Ubuntu on the Z.
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I second that!
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« Reply #11 on: January 31, 2007, 09:13:06 pm »
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I would get much more excited about Ubuntu on the Z.
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I second that!
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« Reply #12 on: January 31, 2007, 10:16:15 pm »
I run Kubuntu on my other boxes. I imagine that KDE (or Gnome) would be a bit heavy for the Z. Maybe Xubuntu would be the right fit. i know less than nothing, but I wonder with the Debian ARM packages if this is a possibility? Maybe a new distro with XFCE tailored for the Zaurus called Zubuntu! Yeah baby.
« Last Edit: January 31, 2007, 10:17:39 pm by Ling »
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« Reply #13 on: January 31, 2007, 10:50:31 pm »
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yeah!
now we ve to find an english install howto
[div align=\"right\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]


very-very quick `how to install that snapshot to c1k/c3k SD card` for pdaxrom users in english

Notes:
This snapshot is not a system to use, it's for test and play. More usable snaps will be in future, i believe
Packeges in snap listed in [a href=\"ftp://gentoo.ru/projects/handhelds/zaurus-c1000/arm-iwmmxt-linux-gnueabi.pack_list.txt]ftp://gentoo.ru/projects/handhelds/zaurus...i.pack_list.txt[/url]
This snap is EABI
More details about EABI you can get at http://wiki.debian.org/ArmEabiPort

Download files:
ftp://gentoo.ru/projects/handhelds/zaurus...gnueabi.tar.bz2
Format SD card as ext3 and extract archive to mounted card

c3100/c3200 users need to replace SD_CARD/kernel.img with image from ftp://gfz:gentoofz@civil.mine.nu/2.6.19.2-vanilla/kernel.img
and extract modules to SD_CARD/lib/modules from archive at ftp://gfz:gentoofz@civil.mine.nu/2.6.19.2.../modules.tar.gz

You can compile your own kernel image, but note that you need to enable EABI in kernel config and boot options:
CONFIG_CMDLINE="console=ttyS0,115200n8 console=tty1 noinitrd root=/dev/mmcblk0p1 rootfstype=ext3 rw fbcon=rotate:1 rootdelay=5"


Remove battery for 5 seconds or press `reset` button and press and hold the "OK" button. you will booted into emergency ram system, it runs autoboot.sh that offers you to install kernel to NAND, so press Y and install it.
(similar to installing pdaxrom, but this autoboot.sh install new kernel.img only. If you want to turn back your pdaxrom system, just copy kernel.img from pdaxrom archive to SD card and repeat this procedure.)

root's password is `qq`

thats all

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« Reply #14 on: January 31, 2007, 10:54:42 pm »
I think it is BECAUSE gentoo compiles that it is possible to put it on a Z. and even the tiniest speed increase helps.  I have kubuntu on my desktop, debian on my server. going gentoo on the desktop wouldn't kill me, much as I like my kubuntu. I like pdaX on my Z, but would spend the time to see how gentoo works
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**6000l  Tetsuized Sharprom, installed on internal flash only 1G sd, 2G cf