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« on: May 28, 2007, 03:22:24 pm »
Hi guys,

As cool as pdaxii3 full is I am just finding it way to slow for my needs. I'm very impatient and just can't handle waiting between 5-20 seconds for things to load everytime I need to use them.

I am planning to try cacko first instead of going back to SharpROM, but have a couple of questions about the changeover:

1) Will I need to reformat the microdrive myself beforehand? Or will the installer do it for me?

2) Do I need to reformat/repartition the root partition on the Zaurus? I had to change it to 121 for pdaxii3, so do I need to change it back for cackoROM or doesn't it matter?

3) I read somewhere that cacko loads lots of things from the SD/MMC card to free up memory, but does it actually have to do this even with the 3200? I'd rather have it all run from flash/microdrive if possible?

Thanks to any and all who help answer my questions  
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« Reply #1 on: May 29, 2007, 12:41:58 pm »
I also would like to see all this information in one place.
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1) Will I need to reformat the microdrive myself beforehand? Or will the installer do it for me?
pdaxii13 installer has an option to re-partition and reformat the hard drive to the default Sharp settings, (which are the same for Cacko), but you will also need to place the default files/folders back into /hdd1 and /hdd2.
These files/folders are available at Trisoft
http://www.trisoft.de/en_c3200howto.htm
"SLC3200SYSPART.zip"
It consists of the folders called /.sys and the necessary files for these folders. These consist of:
/hdd1/.sys/hdimage2.tgz
/hdd1/.sys/hdlist1.dat
/hdd1/lost+found
/hdd2/.sys/contlist.dat
/hdd2/.sys/hdlist2.dat
/hdd2/.sys/hdlist3.dat
/hdd2/lost+found
It also has a README to help you to add these files to your partitions.

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2) Do I need to reformat/repartition the root partition on the Zaurus? I had to change it to 121 for pdaxii3, so do I need to change it back for cackoROM or doesn't it matter?
This area needs to be addressed in one place where everyone can find the necessary information.
Sorry, I do NOT have an answer for this, and someone that has returned to Sharp/Cacko from pdaxrom and has formatted their root partition to the infamous "121" size, needs to answer this. See my Note: below.
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3) I read somewhere that cacko loads lots of things from the SD/MMC card to free up memory, but does it actually have to do this even with the 3200? I'd rather have it all run from flash/microdrive if possible?
Sharp/Cacko is contained in Flash and you can install additional programs to Flash.
In Sharp/Cacko some programs may be installed to SD/CF through the GUI installer. The GUI installer will NOT install stuff to the hard drive. If you want to install stuff on the hard drive in Sharp/Cacko, you must either re-format your /hdd3 FAT partition to linux, or create a 4th partition, (using a linux filesystem), then install stuff on it using the commandline. The GUI will not install to this partition.
In Cacko, you can place a swapfile to your FAT formatted /hdd3.

I Hope this covers questions #1 & #3.

Note: (Maybe the original Sharp NAND backup from Trisoft will do this, I don't know) Does anyone have a definitive answer to this?
It is my understanding when returning from pdaxrom to Sharp/Cacko, one should flash to the default Sharp ROM, then use the Cacko instructions to install Cacko, and making sure your partitions are correct.
EDIT:
Cacko does have a menu item in the installer to resize the root partition.
http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/?q=cacko
Maybe you don't have to Flash to Sharp first. When I buggered up my Cacko install, I reflashed to Sharp, then reflashed to Cacko, but that's just me.
Beside reading the "Cacko" section at tyrannozaurus, you may want to read the pinned "Cacko Rom 1.23 Is Released" topics in the Sharp forum.
https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=15820
« Last Edit: May 30, 2007, 02:14:40 am by Jon_J »
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« Reply #2 on: May 30, 2007, 03:23:47 am »
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I also would like to see all this information in one place.
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1) Will I need to reformat the microdrive myself beforehand? Or will the installer do it for me?
pdaxii13 installer has an option to re-partition and reformat the hard drive to the default Sharp settings, (which are the same for Cacko), but you will also need to place the default files/folders back into /hdd1 and /hdd2.
These files/folders are available at Trisoft
http://www.trisoft.de/en_c3200howto.htm
"SLC3200SYSPART.zip"
It consists of the folders called /.sys and the necessary files for these folders. These consist of:
/hdd1/.sys/hdimage2.tgz
/hdd1/.sys/hdlist1.dat
/hdd1/lost+found
/hdd2/.sys/contlist.dat
/hdd2/.sys/hdlist2.dat
/hdd2/.sys/hdlist3.dat
/hdd2/lost+found
It also has a README to help you to add these files to your partitions.

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2) Do I need to reformat/repartition the root partition on the Zaurus? I had to change it to 121 for pdaxii3, so do I need to change it back for cackoROM or doesn't it matter?
This area needs to be addressed in one place where everyone can find the necessary information.
Sorry, I do NOT have an answer for this, and someone that has returned to Sharp/Cacko from pdaxrom and has formatted their root partition to the infamous "121" size, needs to answer this. See my Note: below.
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3) I read somewhere that cacko loads lots of things from the SD/MMC card to free up memory, but does it actually have to do this even with the 3200? I'd rather have it all run from flash/microdrive if possible?
Sharp/Cacko is contained in Flash and you can install additional programs to Flash.
In Sharp/Cacko some programs may be installed to SD/CF through the GUI installer. The GUI installer will NOT install stuff to the hard drive. If you want to install stuff on the hard drive in Sharp/Cacko, you must either re-format your /hdd3 FAT partition to linux, or create a 4th partition, (using a linux filesystem), then install stuff on it using the commandline. The GUI will not install to this partition.
In Cacko, you can place a swapfile to your FAT formatted /hdd3.

I Hope this covers questions #1 & #3.

Note: (Maybe the original Sharp NAND backup from Trisoft will do this, I don't know) Does anyone have a definitive answer to this?
It is my understanding when returning from pdaxrom to Sharp/Cacko, one should flash to the default Sharp ROM, then use the Cacko instructions to install Cacko, and making sure your partitions are correct.
EDIT:
Cacko does have a menu item in the installer to resize the root partition.
http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/?q=cacko
Maybe you don't have to Flash to Sharp first. When I buggered up my Cacko install, I reflashed to Sharp, then reflashed to Cacko, but that's just me.
Beside reading the "Cacko" section at tyrannozaurus, you may want to read the pinned "Cacko Rom 1.23 Is Released" topics in the Sharp forum.
https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=15820
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Just a quickie ... You did disble SCIM support in Pdaxii13 right?  For me that reduced application load time from ~20 seconds down to a few seconds.

If not, use the Pdaxii13 Config tool it ships with.
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« Reply #3 on: June 07, 2007, 01:06:56 pm »
Sorry for the such late replies guys havn't been on the forums since I posted it.

Thanks for the comprehensive reply Jon, helped a lot!! Going to give it a try today will let you know how I get on. Although am still slightly unsure what to do about the root partition size  

And yea portalgod I did disable SCIM, still just a little to slow for my needs and I just don't have the use for 95% of the stuff anyway. Was a nice way to enjoy my Zaurus at the start though.
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« Reply #4 on: June 07, 2007, 01:30:41 pm »
Actually I'm a bit stuck already. When use pdaxii3 tools to re-partition microdrive how I do I get the necessary files into them without an OS? Or am I just being really dense?  
Zaurus C-3200 (6gb version).
Cacko 1.23
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