Zbackup For Pdaxii13

[Meanie]

Ok, this time I install Gaim and Rox onto /mnt/user directory. Using zbackup_0.14_armv5tel.ipk, I created a backup intird.bin file. I then proceed to reinstall the os with the backup initrd.bin.

Results are buggy. Install went fine with no errors, but when X started up it defaulted back to matchbox. Plus, there was no sign of rox or gaim in the /mnt/user directory.
My /dev/root or / is almost completely used up. It had something like 4 megs free before applying the back, now it has just over a 1 meg free.

Just in case I’ll list the steps I take when running a back, that way we can remove any possibilities of user.

Backup Procedure

Step 1. Installing pdaxii13
1.   Use pdaxii13  initrd.bin tools.tar updater.sh - to the root of your SD/MMC card.
2.   Make sure the Zaurus isn't plugged into AC power.
3.   Remove battery for at least 5 seconds.
4.   Replace battery (replace battery cover, lock cover), plug in AC power.
5.   Press and hold the "OK" button on the keyboard.
6.   Turn the power on, you should see the Japanese service menu.
7.   Select option 4 (flash/update).
8.   You then have four options (1. USB, 2. CF, 3. SD, 4. Back)
9.   Choose either option 2 or 3, depending on which media you put the files on.
10.   After a while a menu pops up, select "3 NAND Flash utils" -> "1 Resize root partition", enter 50 - 50 MB for root partition on SL-C760/C860/C1000/C3100 or 30 for SL-C700/750.
11.   After a while it is repartioned and will reboot, after that complete steps 2-10 again and wait for the menu again.
12.   Now select "1 Install new ROM" and wait.
13.   Press Yes for question about format user partition and wait when it will reboot
14.   At login type "root" - without the quotes - then hit enter
15.   Type "startx" - without quotes - then hit enter
16.   Wait while the gui starts up
Step 2. Backup pdaxii13

1.   Install Gaim and rox onto /mnt/user directory.
2.   Install zbackup_0.14_armv5tel.ipk onto /.
3.   Exit to command prompt, run zbackup.
4.   Using backup initrd.bin, repeat Step 1. Installing pdaxii13


That’s basically what I’ve been doing.

Hope this helps,

VirtusRex
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what does

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df -hand

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mountshow?

where does /mnt/user actually point to?
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here you go.
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ok, i understand now.

the caveat is that the flash process extracts the contens of / (root partition) and formats /home which is /mnt/user partition.

so if you flash akita with root and home, ie two partitions, then only root is restored and /home is wiped out. therefore zbackup only works properly if you resize root to 128mb

also, use zbackup 0.13
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Ok, I used zbackup 0.13 and create an initrd.bin back, then I did the following:

Backup Procedure Using zbackup 0.13

Step 1. Installing pdaxii13
1. Use backup initrd.bin, tools.tar, and updater.sh - to the root of your SD/MMC card.
2. Make sure the Zaurus isn't plugged into AC power.
3. Remove battery for at least 5 seconds.
4. Replace battery (replace battery cover, lock cover), plug in AC power.
5. Press and hold the "OK" button on the keyboard.
6. Turn the power on, you should see the Japanese service menu.
7. Select option 4 (flash/update).
8. You then have four options (1. USB, 2. CF, 3. SD, 4. Back)
9. Choose either option 2 or 3, depending on which media you put the files on.
10. After a while a menu pops up, select "3 NAND Flash utils" -> "1 Resize root partition", enter  121 which is the max amount (I assume this is what you mean when you said to resize root to 128mb)
11. After a while it is repartioned and will reboot, after that complete steps 2-10 again and wait for the menu again.
12. Now select "1 Install new ROM" and wait.
13. Press Yes for question about format user partition and wait when it will reboot

Everything installed ok, but I got the following error which prevented me from accessing root login.
bin/sh: error while loading shared libraries : libncurses.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory.

VirtusRex
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sorry, i forgot i made some other required fixes to  0.14 that isn't in 0.13.
try 0.14 again with 121 root size. it should work but add some extra files that aren't required, i will upload a 0.15 asap to fix that... but make sure 0.14 works first...

[VirtusRex]

Ok, this time I install Gaim and Rox onto /mnt/user directory. Using zbackup_0.14_armv5tel.ipk, I created a backup intird.bin file. I then proceed to reinstall the os with the backup initrd.bin.

Results are buggy. Install went fine with no errors, but when X started up it defaulted back to matchbox. Plus, there was no sign of rox or gaim in the /mnt/user directory.
My /dev/root or / is almost completely used up. It had something like 4 megs free before applying the back, now it has just over a 1 meg free.

Just in case I’ll list the steps I take when running a back, that way we can remove any possibilities of user.

Backup Procedure

Step 1. Installing pdaxii13
1.   Use pdaxii13  initrd.bin tools.tar updater.sh - to the root of your SD/MMC card.
2.   Make sure the Zaurus isn't plugged into AC power.
3.   Remove battery for at least 5 seconds.
4.   Replace battery (replace battery cover, lock cover), plug in AC power.
5.   Press and hold the "OK" button on the keyboard.
6.   Turn the power on, you should see the Japanese service menu.
7.   Select option 4 (flash/update).
8.   You then have four options (1. USB, 2. CF, 3. SD, 4. Back)
9.   Choose either option 2 or 3, depending on which media you put the files on.
10.   After a while a menu pops up, select "3 NAND Flash utils" -> "1 Resize root partition", enter 50 - 50 MB for root partition on SL-C760/C860/C1000/C3100 or 30 for SL-C700/750.
11.   After a while it is repartioned and will reboot, after that complete steps 2-10 again and wait for the menu again.
12.   Now select "1 Install new ROM" and wait.
13.   Press Yes for question about format user partition and wait when it will reboot
14.   At login type "root" - without the quotes - then hit enter
15.   Type "startx" - without quotes - then hit enter
16.   Wait while the gui starts up
Step 2. Backup pdaxii13

1.   Install Gaim and rox onto /mnt/user directory.
2.   Install zbackup_0.14_armv5tel.ipk onto /.
3.   Exit to command prompt, run zbackup.
4.   Using backup initrd.bin, repeat Step 1. Installing pdaxii13


That’s basically what I’ve been doing.

Hope this helps,

VirtusRex
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what does

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df -hand

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mountshow?

where does /mnt/user actually point to?
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=155888\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

here you go.
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ok, i understand now.

the caveat is that the flash process extracts the contens of / (root partition) and formats /home which is /mnt/user partition.

so if you flash akita with root and home, ie two partitions, then only root is restored and /home is wiped out. therefore zbackup only works properly if you resize root to 128mb

also, use zbackup 0.13
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Ok, I used zbackup 0.13 and create an initrd.bin back, then I did the following:

Backup Procedure Using zbackup 0.13

Step 1. Installing pdaxii13
1. Use backup initrd.bin, tools.tar, and updater.sh - to the root of your SD/MMC card.
2. Make sure the Zaurus isn't plugged into AC power.
3. Remove battery for at least 5 seconds.
4. Replace battery (replace battery cover, lock cover), plug in AC power.
5. Press and hold the "OK" button on the keyboard.
6. Turn the power on, you should see the Japanese service menu.
7. Select option 4 (flash/update).
8. You then have four options (1. USB, 2. CF, 3. SD, 4. Back)
9. Choose either option 2 or 3, depending on which media you put the files on.
10. After a while a menu pops up, select "3 NAND Flash utils" -> "1 Resize root partition", enter  121 which is the max amount (I assume this is what you mean when you said to resize root to 128mb)
11. After a while it is repartioned and will reboot, after that complete steps 2-10 again and wait for the menu again.
12. Now select "1 Install new ROM" and wait.
13. Press Yes for question about format user partition and wait when it will reboot

Everything installed ok, but I got the following error which prevented me from accessing root login.
bin/sh: error while loading shared libraries : libncurses.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory.

VirtusRex
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sorry, i forgot i made some other required fixes to  0.14 that isn't in 0.13.
try 0.14 again with 121 root size. it should work but add some extra files that aren't required, i will upload a 0.15 asap to fix that... but make sure 0.14 works first...
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Hey Meanie,

Sorry for not getting back to you sooner, but works been crazy.

I did what you said and used 0.14, but I'm still getting the same error.

VirtusRex

[Meanie]

please try 0.15

http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/feed/beta3/cu...15_armv5tel.ipk

[VirtusRex]

please try 0.15

http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/feed/beta3/cu...15_armv5tel.ipk
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Hey Meanie,

One more thing, I just checked the version of pdaxii13 I'm using and it's 5.3.1, and I check your pdaxii13 site, which has a 5.3.2 version, which uses a NAND install, am using the wrong os version?

Should I which to 5.3.2?

VirtusRex

[Meanie]

please try 0.15

http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/feed/beta3/cu...15_armv5tel.ipk
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Hey Meanie,

One more thing, I just checked the version of pdaxii13 I'm using and it's 5.3.1, and I check your pdaxii13 site, which has a 5.3.2 version, which uses a NAND install, am using the wrong os version?

Should I which to 5.3.2?

VirtusRex
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5.3.2 is a new version which is basically 5.3.1 plus some bug fixes + new zbackup

[VirtusRex]

please try 0.15

http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/feed/beta3/cu...15_armv5tel.ipk
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Hey Meanie,

One more thing, I just checked the version of pdaxii13 I'm using and it's 5.3.1, and I check your pdaxii13 site, which has a 5.3.2 version, which uses a NAND install, am using the wrong os version?

Should I which to 5.3.2?

VirtusRex
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5.3.2 is a new version which is basically 5.3.1 plus some bug fixes + new zbackup
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Ok, did a complete reinstall of pdaxii13 5.3.1. Set Nand flash resize to 121.
Installed Rox onto /mnt/usr.

Created backup initrd.bin based on 0.15.

Reinstalled everything and X windows started, but the bottom taskbar was gone, and the background was completely red.

While pdaxii13 was loading up, I keep getting the following msg:

jffs2_scan_eraseblock() magic bitmask 0x1985 not found at 0x3100028: 0x0006 instead

VirtusRex

[Meanie]

you can ignore the  the jffs errors, they will disappear after a few reboots....

looks like the contents of /home/root/ is missing some stuff.

can you exit X, then run startx and exit X again and see what is seen in the console

also a

ls -la /home/root

[Meanie]

ok, i think i know where the problem is. please try this updated v0.16
thanks for all your patience and testing this for me.

[Tron]

Hi Meanie,

I haven't tried the latest, but if I understand your script correctly (especially the if-then-clauses) I'm curious about some parts:

- Am I correct to assume that if a "/data"-partition is found the backup goes there. If a extended-root-environment is detected (/usr mounted on hd), then first a tgz with the contents of /usr is created. Ok, that is needed for "flashing" the hdimage. Then the jffs2-filesystem is created and stored temporary on /data. Until now all is clear to me. However, then the jffs2-image is "pasted" into the tgz file rendering it invalid. I'm not sure if this is planned, as I would have expected to have two files at the end, the jffs2-image for the root filesystem which goes onto the flash and the hdimage.tgz which is extracted onto the first partition of the harddisk.

- Somewhere in between the script tries to unmount /usr. Well, on a running system this just has to fail and does. Later on the script remounts the partition resulting in /usr being mounted twice. Basically this is unnecessary, as the whole partition can be copied while it is mounted.

I'll have a look over the latest version tonight. I'm no expert on shell scripting but I'll try to point out any bugs I might find.

[VirtusRex]

ok, i think i know where the problem is. please try this updated v0.16
thanks for all your patience and testing this for me.
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No problem Meanie, you've done some amazing work with pdaxii13 and I'm at your service.

I think I've got a problem with my c1000. Whenever I do a 121 Nand flash, I assume the root will get bigger right?

This is what I usually get using df -h:

filesystem   size   Used   Available    Use%   Mounted On
/dev/root   53.0   53.0M      0   100%   /
none      12.0M   20.0k      12.0M   0%   /dev
/dev/mtdblock3   68.0M   3.8M      64.2M   6%   /home
/dev/mtdblock3   68.0M   3.8M      64.2M   6%   /mnt/user

should /dev/root be 121 in size?

VirtusRex

[Tron]

Umm, Meanie, could it be that the attachment of v0.16 is not linked correctly? I am not able to download it. v0.15 works fine.

[Jon_J]

Umm, Meanie, could it be that the attachment of v0.16 is not linked correctly? I am not able to download it. v0.15 works fine.
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seems attachments are also not working, as are attached pictures. I tried downloading it and got a browser full of code.
[a href=\"https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=23467]https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=23467[/url]

EDIT:
I downloaded 0.16 last night with no problem.

[Jon_J]

OK, here's a method to download it in firefox.
hilite the filename and copy.
right click link and select save link as
when dialog pops up, paste in the copied filename and click OK

On some files, a dash may get substituted by an underscore.

[Meanie]

Hi Meanie,

I haven't tried the latest, but if I understand your script correctly (especially the if-then-clauses) I'm curious about some parts:

- Am I correct to assume that if a "/data"-partition is found the backup goes there. If a extended-root-environment is detected (/usr mounted on hd), then first a tgz with the contents of /usr is created. Ok, that is needed for "flashing" the hdimage. Then the jffs2-filesystem is created and stored temporary on /data. Until now all is clear to me. However, then the jffs2-image is "pasted" into the tgz file rendering it invalid. I'm not sure if this is planned, as I would have expected to have two files at the end, the jffs2-image for the root filesystem which goes onto the flash and the hdimage.tgz which is extracted onto the first partition of the harddisk.

- Somewhere in between the script tries to unmount /usr. Well, on a running system this just has to fail and does. Later on the script remounts the partition resulting in /usr being mounted twice. Basically this is unnecessary, as the whole partition can be copied while it is mounted.

I'll have a look over the latest version tonight. I'm no expert on shell scripting but I'll try to point out any bugs I might find.
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oops, that's a bug. thanks for spotting it! it will be fixed in the next update, ie 0.17
this bug only affects C3100/C3200 NOT C1000 so C1000 users don't need to worry about it at all...

does the following work:

mkdir -p /mnt/nand
mount -t jffs2 /dev/mtdblock2 /mnt/nand

[VirtusRex]

Hey Meanie,

Ok, I got pdaxii13 5.3.2 going and tried your zbackup 0.16. Well looks like your fix worked, the initrd.bin backup worked perfectly.  I'm still trying stuff, but no bugs so far.

VirtusRex