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Should I Use R197 On C860
« on: July 10, 2007, 07:14:01 am »
Hi all, it's been around 9 months since I have looked at the forums and I wanted to know if r197 is stable/any better than beta1 on the C860?

I have my Z running ok now but if r197 is better I will try the upgrade.

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« Reply #1 on: July 10, 2007, 08:23:25 am »
Hi,

I never tried beta1 on my C860 so I don't know if R197 is better but everything I need works fine on R197 (with SP8).

I think it is worth trying.

Cheers, Jan
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« Reply #2 on: July 10, 2007, 08:29:19 am »
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Hi,

I never tried beta1 on my C860 so I don't know if R197 is better but everything I need works fine on R197 (with SP8).

I think it is worth trying.

Cheers, Jan
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Thanks Jan, just a couple more questions....

Are there any 'gotchas' with installing r197?

Which is the best way to install?

And finally are there XFCE packages?

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« Last Edit: July 10, 2007, 08:29:59 am by diesel1 »
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« Reply #3 on: July 10, 2007, 09:46:56 am »
Installation should go fine so long as you follow the instructions closely.

As for XFCE, you can use the packages that are available forbetas 1-3. I don't know the URL, but there are probably links in the XFCE customizations thread, or just google "xfce pdaxrom" without the quotes. That's what I do to find out if a package exists.

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« Reply #4 on: July 10, 2007, 09:48:06 am »
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Installation should go fine so long as you follow the instructions closely.

As for XFCE, you can use the packages that are available forbetas 1-3. I don't know the URL, but there are probably links in the XFCE customizations thread, or just google "xfce pdaxrom" without the quotes. That's what I do to find out if a package exists.

HTH
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Thanks Capn!

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« Reply #5 on: July 10, 2007, 03:31:54 pm »
you should definitely stick with beta1. You can't neither compare beta1 with r197. The Zaurus is a touch screen AND keyboard platform, so - to me - having the touchscreen not working properly is a no-go. Since beta1 is the last release with properly working touchscreen, you have no alternative.

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« Reply #6 on: July 10, 2007, 03:34:40 pm »
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you should definitely stick with beta1. You can't neither compare beta1 with r197. The Zaurus is a touch screen AND keyboard platform, so - to me - having the touchscreen not working properly is a no-go. Since beta1 is the last release with properly working touchscreen, you have no alternative.[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=164669\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]
I used r197 for quite some time on my boxer. What touchscreen issues are you referring too?
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« Reply #7 on: July 10, 2007, 03:38:48 pm »
dancing pointer, yeppaa

did you ever try to write something with xstroke or sketchbook? Didn't you feel hard to click on buttons?

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« Reply #8 on: July 10, 2007, 03:44:32 pm »
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dancing pointer, yeppaa

did you ever try to write something with xstroke or sketchbook? Didn't you feel hard to click on buttons?[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=164672\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]
No, I guess I never did. My Z use is limited to reading ebooks & enews & watching videos. Not much touchscreen activity required for that .
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« Reply #9 on: July 10, 2007, 04:01:10 pm »
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dancing pointer, yeppaa

did you ever try to write something with xstroke or sketchbook? Didn't you feel hard to click on buttons?[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=164672\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]
No, I guess I never did. My Z use is limited to reading ebooks & enews & watching videos. Not much touchscreen activity required for that .
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Well thanks for the heads up, but how much of an issue is it?
If my C860 becomes unusable I will be as sick as a parrot.  I set it up ages ago and it has been so long that I cannot remember what I did!

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« Reply #10 on: July 10, 2007, 04:13:18 pm »
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dancing pointer, yeppaa

did you ever try to write something with xstroke or sketchbook? Didn't you feel hard to click on buttons?[div align=\"right\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]
No, I guess I never did. My Z use is limited to reading ebooks & enews & watching videos. Not much touchscreen activity required for that .
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=164674\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

Well thanks for the heads up, but how much of an issue is it?
If my C860 becomes unusable I will be as sick as a parrot.  I set it up ages ago and it has been so long that I cannot remember what I did![div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=164675\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]
Make a [a href=\"https://www.oesf.org/index.php?title=NAND_Flash_Backup]NAND backup[/url] first. Then it's relatively easy to restore if you change your mind (I can't find the relevent restore info right now, but it's there). HTH
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« Reply #11 on: July 11, 2007, 09:22:44 am »
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Make a NAND backup first. Then it's relatively easy to restore if you change your mind (I can't find the relevent restore info right now, but it's there). HTH
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Ok I backed up the flash.
Should I use u-boot or just leave the boot loader as is?

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« Reply #12 on: July 11, 2007, 09:38:10 am »
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Should I use u-boot or just leave the boot loader as is?[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=164721\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]
To install R197, you have to use u-boot.
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« Reply #13 on: July 11, 2007, 09:46:17 am »
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Should I use u-boot or just leave the boot loader as is?[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=164721\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]
To install R197, you have to use u-boot.
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Thanks, I just read it in the install guide!

Now where do I find uboot files for C860.......OK found.

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« Reply #14 on: July 11, 2007, 12:17:32 pm »
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how much of an issue is it?
A lot depends on what you use your boxer for:
if you use it for activities which only requite a tap once in a while you'll be fine,
if you use it with softare that requires frequent tapping you might be driven crazy.

BTW ... some broken things: (here are the first 2 that come into my mind)
the usb storage function is not working on r197
you can only undeclock and only by hand (applet does not work for cxx0 family)
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If my C860 becomes unusable I will be as sick as a parrot.  I set it up ages ago and it has been so long that I cannot remember what I did!

Well I would not say it's unstable ... I also have a 5500 and some time ago it was running on an old rom version ... when I played solitare I had a crash ever 4 games on avarage.
On my C860 I've played for hours with quake and I had no crash. Generally I only reboot it when I want to change between the system on MMC and the on on the onboard NAND.

Make a backup and try for yourself so you allways have an easy way back.
Regards
David

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