4.3 Snapshot - New And Improved Install/enjoyment Docs, Etc

[gen2]

Hello again,

New and Improved™ C-series install/enjoyment docs and xscale-optimized packages now available for 4.3 snapshot.

www.planetofidiots.com

Potential New Users: If I've succeeded here, this might be your "fast track" to checking out OpenBSD on the Z. The goal was to create a one-stop site where base packages match the pre-built ports, theoretically making it easier for new users to experience unconditional love and perhaps slowing the natural decay of obsd-on-z excitement.

Do I have to explain why OpenBSD is incredibly cool? No? PHEW!

Corrections/Additions/Complaints/Requests welcome as always.


The following included for convenience, if you're unfamiliar it's best to examine docs at the link provided above first.

packages:
http://www.planetofidiots.com/pub/OpenBSD/...ackages/zaurus/

base-install files:
http://www.planetofidiots.com/pub/OpenBSD/snapshots/zaurus/

[axeTail]

Hello again,

New and Improved™ C-series install/enjoyment docs and xscale-optimized packages now available for 4.3 snapshot.

www.planetofidiots.com

Potential New Users: If I've succeeded here, this might be your "fast track" to checking out OpenBSD on the Z. The goal was to create a one-stop site where base packages match the pre-built ports, theoretically making it easier for new users to experience unconditional love and perhaps slowing the natural decay of obsd-on-z excitement.

Do I have to explain why OpenBSD is incredibly cool? No? PHEW!

Corrections/Additions/Complaints/Requests welcome as always.


The following included for convenience, if you're unfamiliar it's best to examine docs at the link provided above first.

packages:
http://www.planetofidiots.com/pub/OpenBSD/...ackages/zaurus/

base-install files:
http://www.planetofidiots.com/pub/OpenBSD/snapshots/zaurus/

"Do I have to explain why OpenBSD is incredibly cool? No? PHEW! "

Yes please explain why....

[gen2]

Yes please explain why....

1. Puffy Adventure Cartoons with every CD set.
2. Lots of stickers in there too.
3. Bonus OpenBSD song.

Ok now there's some understandable controversy surrounding use of obsd songs as a valid benchmark. Sometimes they aren't really rocking in the empirical sense, IMHO. Their inclusion does, however, signal an acceptably rocking attitude, so I have to give em two thumbs up!

There's probably a bunch of reasons _other people use OpenBSD; perhaps operating the Google for a spell might shake out a bucket of love with your name on it. Just as a sample to get you started, try a phrase like "why openbsd" in the google search thingy.

This Nick Holland guy is pretty darned smart, too, maybe check out what he has to say. OpenBSD mailing lists are excellent information sources as well. Have fun out there!

http://www.monkey.org/openbsd/archive/misc...1/msg00975.html

[glac]

Hello gen2,

Great tutorial you have made. But before I start adventuring my Z with an OpenBSD installation (and I will very soon), I need to solve some questions:

1- I see that the snapshot you used was from June. We're now in August. If I use the latest snapshot avaiable your compiled packages may be broken if I install them over this install, right? So, to use your compiled packages, I need to use the snapshot you used (avaiable in the link above), right?

2- Assuming that I am right in the questions above, you need to provide the ports.tar.gz you are using (from the snapshot you used) to people (like me) that may need or test other apps that you did not compile until now.

Thanks in advance for the attention,

glac

[gen2]

1- ...to use your compiled packages, I need to use the snapshot you used (avaiable in the link above), right?
2- Assuming that I am right in the questions above, you need to provide the ports.tar.gz you are using (from the snapshot you used) to people (like me) that may need or test other apps that you did not compile until now.

Thanks for the props; The packages I compiled are from the same release date as the snapshot, so that would theoretically give you an ideal system (cept you'll want those packages I didn't build, natch). You can use packages from other release dates as well, but the more distant the time-span between snapshot and package (or port), the more likely you'll encounter a dependency version-mismatch. I recommend just going for it; install a package, see if it works, if not, remove it.

I'd put the ports.tar.gz here, to somewhat resemble the official tree, but thanks for letting me know that should be more explicit in the tute:

http://planetofidiots.com/pub/OpenBSD/snapshots/

[PacoBell]

Not to belittle your hard work or anything, but aren't the general ARM packages supposed to be compatible with Zaurus? If so, doesn't that make package compilation on the Z somewhat redundant, if not futile?

[gen2]

but aren't the general ARM packages supposed to be compatible with Zaurus?

They are. I use the xscale er...optimalizations, plus there are some interesting differences in package inventory.

[Wildherb]

I might be tempted to give BSD another try but this time on my C3000. First, a few questions:

Has 4.3 been tested on C3000?
Any suspend/resume issues?
Is there WPA wireless support?
Anything in particular to watch out for during installation on a NAND-impared 3000 compared to the 3100/3200?(I'll probably be doing single partition install)
Is SD support working now?
In particular, I want to do PERL with self-compiled modules from CPAN. Does anybody have any success at this under BSD?

About this time last year I spent some time with BSD on my C3100. I was generally very impressed at how easy it was to get a working port built from the package feed, but in spite of several rebuilds and tweaks, the wretched 3100 refused to suspend/resume which somewhat limited the value I could ever get out of it - unable to be away from a power supply is not a great position for a portable device to be in!


----EDIT----

Just seen that 4.4 is to be released on Nov 1st.  I might hang on for that.

http://www.openbsd.org/44.html

[gen2]

Just seen that 4.4 is to be released on Nov 1st.  I might hang on for that.

If you have the base packages pre-downloaded (and made available from a local webserver) it's possible to do an installation in about 15 minutes, otherwise maybe 1/2hr. Might as well just go for it. Sleep works, most everything else you mentioned works far as I know (sd isn't happening on my 3200). I don't know that 4.4 is going to have much new for the Z; not to dissuade you in any way, but presents for Z users are fewer and farther between as time drones on.

[Wildherb]

Just seen that 4.4 is to be released on Nov 1st.  I might hang on for that.

If you have the base packages pre-downloaded (and made available from a local webserver) it's possible to do an installation in about 15 minutes, otherwise maybe 1/2hr. Might as well just go for it. Sleep works, most everything else you mentioned works far as I know (sd isn't happening on my 3200). I don't know that 4.4 is going to have much new for the Z; not to dissuade you in any way, but presents for Z users are fewer and farther between as time drones on.

Thanks gen2
I've copied the base tgz files to a spare CF card.  I might have some free time tonight so perhaps I'll give it a go with your 4.3 build! I will report back.

[Wildherb]

Just seen that 4.4 is to be released on Nov 1st.  I might hang on for that.

If you have the base packages pre-downloaded (and made available from a local webserver) it's possible to do an installation in about 15 minutes, otherwise maybe 1/2hr. Might as well just go for it. Sleep works, most everything else you mentioned works far as I know (sd isn't happening on my 3200). I don't know that 4.4 is going to have much new for the Z; not to dissuade you in any way, but presents for Z users are fewer and farther between as time drones on.

Thanks gen2
I've copied the base tgz files to a spare CF card.  I might have some free time tonight so perhaps I'll give it a go with your 4.3 build! I will report back.

It took a couple of hours in total, including half an hour while the ipk bootloader just sat there... until I finally gave up and pulled the plug. From that point on eerything went pretty well. The great news (for me, at least) is that suspend/resume works perfectly! This is a huge win step forward!

I've got wireless networking going so I think my next priority is to shamelessly plunder your package repository. Gen2, you seem to have most of my favourite apps already built - you are clearly a man of fine taste!

Later, I'll get onto looking at window managers, I'm fond of XFCE, and PERL, which is why I've come back to the BSD fold in the first place.

Thanks again, I'm now quite excited about my C3000!

[Wildherb]

gen2

Having problems plundering your packages:

export PKG_PATH="http://www.planetofidiots.com/pub/OpenBSD/snapshots/packages/zaurus"
pkg_add dillo                                                                        
Can't install jpeg-6bp3: lib not found c.45.0
c.45.0: partial match in /usr/lib: major=43, minor=0 (bad major)
png-1.2.28: complete                                                                                                              
Can't install libiconv-1.12: lib not found c.45.0
c.45.0: partial match in /usr/lib: major=43, minor=0 (bad major)
Can't install libiconv-1.12: lib not found c.45.0
c.45.0: partial match in /usr/lib: major=43, minor=0 (bad major)
Can't install gettext-0.16.1: can't resolve libiconv-1.12
Can't install glib-1.2.10p2: lib not found pthread.10.0
pthread.10.0: partial match in /usr/lib: major=9, minor=0 (bad major)
Can't install gtk+-1.2.10p6: can't resolve gettext-0.16.1,libiconv-1.12,glib-1.2.10p2
Can't install dillo-0.8.6p0: can't resolve jpeg-6bp3,gtk+-1.2.10p6
#


any thoughts?

---Edit---
To locate gen2's packages note that you need a forward slash on the end of the URL after the word zauus. Small detail but it makes all the differnce!

export PKG_PATH="http://www.planetofidiots.com/pub/OpenBSD/snapshots/packages/zaurus/"

then start plundering!

[mathemajikian]

----EDIT----

Just seen that 4.4 is to be released on Nov 1st.  I might hang on for that.

http://www.openbsd.org/44.html

You can install 4.4 if you download the latest snapshots from the OpenBSD ftp site.

[Wildherb]

Delighted to report that I've got some of my favourite PERL applications running under OpenBSD. I managed to compile several CPAN packages which did not even exist in the OBSD ports tree - everything just worked exactly as you'd expect on a 'big' computer. This is the first time I've managed to compile any CPAN packages under any Z distro.