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« on: April 25, 2004, 12:14:47 am »
Hi all.

I\'d like to know if the Linux Real Player works on the SL-C860???

here\'s the website.
http://forms.real.com/real/player/unix/unix.html
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« Reply #1 on: April 25, 2004, 07:38:05 am »
Nope, they don\'t have a arm binary so t won\'t run.

You could try Helix  instead - I remember see a reprot about someone starting an arm port of helix

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« Reply #2 on: April 25, 2004, 11:17:37 am »
Maybe with qemu?  That\'s an emulator that runs non native Linux binaries.
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« Reply #3 on: April 25, 2004, 11:41:28 am »
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Hi all.

I\'m new to here
@rikiya ...aka ...riki_nakamura

You speak of loyalty to a product built of plastic and semiconductors and then use deception to post a lie to the people who helped you?

Greg
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« Reply #4 on: April 25, 2004, 05:56:23 pm »
I have yet to get qemu to run on arm, I\'d love to here from anyone who has - want to run adom on the Z.

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« Reply #5 on: April 25, 2004, 07:50:18 pm »
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Hi all.

I\'m new to here
@rikiya ...aka ...riki_nakamura

You speak of loyalty to a product built of plastic and semiconductors and then use deception to post a lie to the people who helped you?

Greg

eh?
whoosh..
I\'ve missed something..  ;-)
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« Reply #6 on: April 25, 2004, 08:35:23 pm »
To get back on topic...

I visited the Helix community today and registered, D/L some development files and will try to help out some (with my limited time and knowledge of porting to Linux ARM) to make this work on a Z.

Greg
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« Reply #7 on: April 26, 2004, 12:54:07 pm »
yes, I am also anxiously awaiting QEMU\'s arrival on the zaurus/arm ...

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« Reply #8 on: April 26, 2004, 01:37:16 pm »
Is there another possible approach to it?  I know that Macromedia Flash and RealNetwork worked together (I used to work at RealNetworks) and that Flash was going to start supporting Real Media inside the flash/shockwave files.  So... if we could find a fully functional post of the Macromedia Flash and/or Shockwave plaers for the Z then maybe it could also play RealMedia somehow.

...I know it\'s a stretch... but it\'s the only Plan B I can think of.

It would be soooo cool to have RealMedia on my Zaurus.  I listen to audio books which sounds great using RealAudio\'s 5 kbps audio codec... otherwise I would have to use 16 kbps MP3 which doesn\'t sound as good and would make my audio books 3x larger... and my CF cards have limited storage...

Little side note/subject: Is there any other audio compression, supperior to MP3 for tiny tiny files, which also runs on the Z?  I\'m anxious to port over my audio books.  - Thanks.
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« Reply #9 on: April 26, 2004, 02:50:28 pm »
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Is there another possible approach to it?  I know that Macromedia Flash and RealNetwork worked together (I used to work at RealNetworks) and that Flash was going to start supporting Real Media inside the flash/shockwave files.  So... if we could find a fully functional post of the Macromedia Flash and/or Shockwave plaers for the Z then maybe it could also play RealMedia somehow.

...I know it\'s a stretch... but it\'s the only Plan B I can think of.

It would be soooo cool to have RealMedia on my Zaurus.  I listen to audio books which sounds great using RealAudio\'s 5 kbps audio codec... otherwise I would have to use 16 kbps MP3 which doesn\'t sound as good and would make my audio books 3x larger... and my CF cards have limited storage...

Little side note/subject: Is there any other audio compression, supperior to MP3 for tiny tiny files, which also runs on the Z?  I\'m anxious to port over my audio books.  - Thanks.

I think when I had SuSE, it\'s RealPlayer was the default player for flash files, but it didn\'t play them well. Doesn\'t mplayer handle .rm files?
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« Reply #10 on: April 26, 2004, 04:02:01 pm »
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yes, I am also anxiously awaiting QEMU\'s arrival on the zaurus/arm ...
Scott

The qemu page claims that ARM support is in the \"Testing\" state (that\'s for ARM host support, which applies to the Zaurus\")  I hope that means it\'s close to working...

Also, don\'t forget that Linux binaries are very sensitive to their shared libraries.  The ideal situation for qemu would be a staticly linked binary, or failing that, ALL shared libraries from the emulated architecture need to be copied over.  It would be pretty much impossible to link an emulated x86 binary with an ARM shared library.

And of course, an X application needs an X server too.  

But I have high hopes for qemu in the long term.
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« Reply #11 on: April 26, 2004, 06:13:36 pm »
Tried cross-compiling qemu but have yet to even get ls or ash (statically linked) from i386 to run on the Z.
Maybe doing something wrong - I want to play adom on the Z

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« Reply #12 on: April 27, 2004, 02:57:51 am »
So, if you want to play adom, why don\'t you ask the author for the source so you can compile it for arm natively? I think he\'d give it to you if you promise to keep it for yourself or so (that\'s how I understood the whole matter...). I\'d be interested in a copy as well, but I\'d also try to compile it if you don\'t feel like it, but just now I\'m too busy, maybe in a week or so...

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« Reply #13 on: April 27, 2004, 07:04:16 pm »
qemu arm has been in the \"testing\" phase for as long as i\'ve followed.
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« Reply #14 on: April 27, 2004, 09:19:32 pm »
Does anyone know if mplayer and/or xine have their own reimplementation of the RP protocol?  If so, that could be another avenue to pursue.  On my laptop I have no problem playing Real streams with them, but I can\'t remember if they use a binary driver or not...
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