Author Topic: SL-C860 Price UP! (Read 5968 times)

rikiya · « **on:** April 26, 2004, 06:05:16 pm »

As I said before the Zaurus SL-C860 has raised it\'s price up by about 5000 yen which used to be 68000 yen (store price) and now it\'s up to about 73000yen (store price) Everyone\'s buying the SL-C860 nowadays that they pushed the price up... maybe a bit more time until the next model (they usually lower the price before new model)

padishah_emperor · « **Reply #1 on:** April 26, 2004, 06:58:16 pm »

Depending on how you look at it, it\'s good news. I think :?
It\'s bad if you were about to buy one though!

datajerk · « **Reply #2 on:** April 26, 2004, 07:33:44 pm »

￥65,961 at www.amazon.co.jp.

TonyOlsen · « **Reply #3 on:** April 26, 2004, 07:37:06 pm »

When I bought my IBM PC-110 Palmtop (Intel x86 33 MHz 486, 640x480) about 6 years ago, IBM then stopped making them and the price skyrocketed. I was actually able to sell my used (with broken speaker) PC-110 1 year later for a little more than what I bought it for!

These gadgets often come and then disappear rapidly. Maybe they know something we don\'t... maybe they\'re going to pull the SL-C860?

HP 200LX (640x200), IBM PC110 (640x480), Toshiba Librettos (640x480), Sony Vaio Picturebooks (the small ones 1024x480)... all of these existed for about 2 years and then vanished... and their makers never came out with replacement products that were nearly as small. Remember the Seiko TV Watches, or how about the Seiko Ruputer watch (4 MHz, 4 MB computer watch with 102x64 pixel screen, buttons and a mini joystick)?

Maybe SL-C860 is next? I\'m glad I got mine when I did...

What does everyone else think? Should we be concerned that the clam-shell 640x480 Zaurus\'s might be going away? The IBM PC110 had a 640x480 VGA screen, and when it disappeared there wasn\'t anything in the market with clam-shell VGA (that small) until the Zaurus SL-C7x0s came out... It\'s as if companies don\'t want to completely commit to clam-shell VGA screens...

rikiya · « **Reply #4 on:** April 26, 2004, 08:11:24 pm »

Wow www.amazon.co.jp used to have it at 68000 yen too but they lowered it... my info was from www.biccamera.com which is Japan\'s leading electronics store.

rikiya · « **Reply #5 on:** April 26, 2004, 08:50:56 pm »

Also at the www.biccamera.com site they ahve a weekly top 5 product list and in the PDA section they have SL-C860 as the top #1

Omicron · « **Reply #6 on:** April 27, 2004, 03:36:03 am »

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When I bought my IBM PC-110 Palmtop (Intel x86 33 MHz 486, 640x480) about 6 years ago, IBM then stopped making them and the price skyrocketed. I was actually able to sell my used (with broken speaker) PC-110 1 year later for a little more than what I bought it for!

These gadgets often come and then disappear rapidly. Maybe they know something we don\'t... maybe they\'re going to pull the SL-C860?

HP 200LX (640x200), IBM PC110 (640x480), Toshiba Librettos (640x480), Sony Vaio Picturebooks (the small ones 1024x480)... all of these existed for about 2 years and then vanished... and their makers never came out with replacement products that were nearly as small. Remember the Seiko TV Watches, or how about the Seiko Ruputer watch (4 MHz, 4 MB computer watch with 102x64 pixel screen, buttons and a mini joystick)?

Maybe SL-C860 is next? I\'m glad I got mine when I did...

What does everyone else think? Should we be concerned that the clam-shell 640x480 Zaurus\'s might be going away? The IBM PC110 had a 640x480 VGA screen, and when it disappeared there wasn\'t anything in the market with clam-shell VGA (that small) until the Zaurus SL-C7x0s came out... It\'s as if companies don\'t want to completely commit to clam-shell VGA screens...

I just got mine a few weeks ago and I am glad I did (due to new price). I doubt it\'s going away, but I guess it is possible...My bet is that demand is way outstripping supply (in Japan) and the other units are not getting much attention, it may very well be a move to change the price point to make the lower model more attractive while Sharp can ramp up production for the C860. If the the 7x00s are sitting on shelves and the C860 is backordered often, Sharp must know thay aren\'t raking in the dought they could be....so rather than drop the 7X00 price, they raise the C860...so no matter what the consumers do (buy a 7 series or wat for the 8 series) Sharp still makes out better than they are now.

Lets face it, these puppies aren\'t cheap, so once you\'re in at over $500-$600, it hard to justify going for the lower model...I mean after all that, what\'s another $50 to $100 more?

And even if I am wrong and it is discontinued (which would be a shame) I am still thrilled to have one .... this thing ROCKS....it is everything great about the 5500 with the addition of double the horspower, 4 times the resolutions, a kick ass keyboard/screen and great compaitibility with all the old sharp accessories (adaptors, batteries, software, etc).

The waeket thing about the Zaurus is Sharp itself...they are high-handed and treat their community with disdain....just take a look at dev-net...oh nevermind, you can\'t :wink:

My dream come true would be for a better marketing company to step in and buy the exclusive US rights to market and support the C860. Done right this would be in the hands of every SA in the US (or India, if outsourcing doesn\'t slow the heck down )

just my 2(0) cents..

grey_moon · « **Reply #7 on:** April 27, 2004, 03:58:08 am »

Especially with rival (peer?) products like the yopy
in uk a top of the range yopy with wi-fi is Â£332.25
http://www.yopypda.co.uk/shop/products.php...aq40365a8baab25
a c860 is Â£480.85
http://www.shirtpocket.co.uk/
Thats a big difference in price and spec wise the yopy has 128 meg ram and as soon as i move into \"workstation\" functionality its memory that ends up hurting me with my 5600.
Well hopefully the extra competition will show Sharp that linux pdas are a viable consumer electronic product in the uk and get them to buck up their customer services.

TonyOlsen · « **Reply #8 on:** April 27, 2004, 09:41:39 am »

Yopy looks interesting, but it is 1/4th the resolution, 1/2 the speed, and larger (I think?)... that\'s enough to turn me off to the idea. VGA is very important for me to play natively compile (or emulated) VGA games and for remote controlling other computers.

grey_moon · « **Reply #9 on:** April 27, 2004, 10:32:22 am »

hard to compare against a c860 as yopy is a portrait pda style, but clam shell. compared to a 5600 its not longer when its folded, but it seems that it is fatter, i was poking at one in the linux dev expo the other day, i wanted a demo but the sales bloke was too sales pitchy for my liking. i was itching to flip it open a la star trek style, but i would have prbly sent the screen flying. the processor is a good point and memory wise if u dont mind burning out external storage (unless it is a micro drive) then u could activate a swap file...
for me the two main specs for a pda is size and battery specs, the yopy 3700 has a bigger battery 2300mah compared to my 5600\'s 1700. i pouted when i found that out, but then again i don\'t think of my 5600 as a pda so these points don\'t count...

b2bpro · « **Reply #10 on:** April 27, 2004, 10:44:27 am »

try

http://www.hightech-co.jp/

Then click on the \"PDA\" option near the bottom of the list on the left side.

They have the 860 for 57,015 yen plus shipping. Thats where I got mine.

Stubear · « **Reply #11 on:** April 28, 2004, 03:03:09 am »

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As I said before the Zaurus SL-C860 has raised it\'s price up by about 5000 yen which used to be 68000 yen (store price) and now it\'s up to about 73000yen (store price) Everyone\'s buying the SL-C860 nowadays that they pushed the price up... maybe a bit more time until the next model (they usually lower the price before new model)

Actually if you are looking at Japanese store prices (or web store prices) then you must also be aware that as of 1 April 2004 all Japanese stores changed from displaying price before to tax to displaying price including tax.

This means that all displayed prices rise by 5%, but what the buyer actually pays stays the same.

Stu

b2bpro · « **Reply #12 on:** April 28, 2004, 02:09:06 pm »

For anyone who cares. I was asked about how to order from hightech in Japan. Here is the information

You can email Kawada (his name) at home@hightech-co.jp

He can converse in English (although for my initial contact I translated everything to Japanese using babelfish). He was excellent to deal with. Very friendly and forthcoming. When he shipped it, he emailed a copy of all the documentation including the shipping receipt so that I could track the shipment myself.

You should ask the current price with shipping and everything, the shipping for mine through the EMS shipping company was 7600 yen - so add that to the price. Also, he does not take credit cards. He will want a wire transfer which will cost another $20 or $30 bucks or so at your bank. After all that you will still have to count on whatever tax and / or duty you will have to pay to get it into the country.

After everything, it was still way cheaper for me to go this route.

Note though that I didn\'t get any of the warrantees that you might get from some of the online stores. In my case, since I live in Canada, I figured I was buying from another country anyway, so I might as well go to the source.

SharpEnd · « **Reply #13 on:** April 30, 2004, 08:50:13 am »

I wish we could purchase from Amazon Japan and have it ship to the USA. Their current price is low enough, and translates to about US$590.
HighTechCo\'s price translates to $516, but not as easy to purchase as Amazon.

padishah_emperor · « **Reply #14 on:** April 30, 2004, 10:26:13 am »

There could be a shift in models soon, the 6000 has just come out and that didn\'t affect my C860, but the Z ain\'t going anywhere, remember in Japan the Z is an established brandname for the last decade, it\'s only recently the Z has been receiving so much attention because of the move to Linux OS. My first Z was black and more of a personal organiser. Look at some Japanese sites at the older machines, these have an almost cult status, I\'ve seen firms that even do custom paint jobs (no not on the Linux ones)

I\'ve played with a Yopy, 1. it\'s very very old news :roll:, 2. it\'s no Z :roll: and 3. I was vexed by it within seconds :evil:, not for me. My former 5500 was better, and it doesn\'t compare to a mouthwatering C series machine.

Z models will come and go but it is an established brand, we\'ll see Sony\'s Clie brand go first ;-) And even so, so what? It\'s just hardware, software will still be there, I got almost 10 years from my HP 200LX, no worries, that\'s why I made the investment in the Z to start with. :-)

Chill my fellow Zaurites, relish in thy Z\'s
;-)

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Author Topic: SL-C860 Price UP! (Read 5968 times)