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What do you think about the new devnet?

Can't wait!  Let's start developing!
5 (6.4%)
I'll check it out, but stick to ZUG for most of my Zaurus needs.
47 (60.3%)
No way.  Once burned, twice shy.
8 (10.3%)
I'll believe it when I see it.
18 (23.1%)

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« Reply #30 on: June 01, 2004, 04:00:42 pm »
You forgot \"I don\'t know about the Sharp Devnet yet\" in your poll...

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« Reply #31 on: June 01, 2004, 05:40:50 pm »
Just for argument\'s sake...

Does anyone know what the SD Card Association\'s rationale is for not making the spec freely available?

It seems to me that the money to be made here is by the hardware manufactures (e.g. Sharp, etc.) and the card manufactures (e.g. Lexar, SanDisk, etc.).  The more devices there are, the more cards you can sell.  The more software that talks to the cards, the more devices you sell.  The more the standard is perpetuated, the more stuff you can sell!  It seems to me that they should be ENCOURAGING us to write software to their spec, no?

I guess the SDCA itself also collects fees for the spec.  But I can\'t see how the profits from this would justify limiting profits from devices and cards.

It just doesn\'t make sense.  Am I missing something?

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« Reply #32 on: June 01, 2004, 07:05:53 pm »
SD has DRM built in so I guess they want to keep it secret - security through obscurity and all that. Not that anyone I know of has made use of that as yet. It also built on the readily avaiable MMC designs and made it faster and easier/cheaper to expand capacity of cards. Plus it has a nice form factor for memory cards. I\'m not sure if the SD association makes money from device royalty or only unlimited licence fees.
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« Reply #33 on: June 01, 2004, 07:14:34 pm »
Whan is the devnet board going to be backup?  Some one said that it was going to be backup up at the end of last weak.

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« Reply #34 on: June 02, 2004, 11:48:47 am »
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SD has DRM built in so I guess they want to keep it secret - security through obscurity and all that. Not that anyone I know of has made use of that as yet. It also built on the readily avaiable MMC designs and made it faster and easier/cheaper to expand capacity of cards. Plus it has a nice form factor for memory cards. I\'m not sure if the SD association makes money from device royalty or only unlimited licence fees.


Okay, I forgot about the DRM.  Nevertheless, I would think they could keep the DRM details \"secret\" and at least release the details for SDIO, etc.  It seems likely that they\'re separate, seeing as there are many devices that use one but not the other.

Has anyone seen a device that uses SD DRM?

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« Reply #35 on: June 02, 2004, 02:11:21 pm »
The zaurus.com site is planned to be up on Friday afternoon. After some starts and stops, I believe everything is a go. The site will be essentially unchanged from when it went down, but SDG Systems is working with Sharp to update the site in the near future. I\'ll post the IP address after the server is installed on Friday morning. Initially, community.zaurus.com will not be operational, nor the lists.zaurus.com (e.g. zaurus-general). Unlike the previous maintainer of the site, SDG will do our best to be proactive in letting you all know about maintenance windows, etc. Changes to the site will likely be limited by the budget allocated, but we\'ll do our best to be open with you all. We have some other ideas that we think you\'ll like. We\'re also open to suggestions that we present to Sharp.
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« Reply #36 on: June 02, 2004, 02:41:46 pm »
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The zaurus.com site is planned to be up on Friday afternoon. After some starts and stops, I believe everything is a go. The site will be essentially unchanged from when it went down.


It is dissapointing that after all this time, the site will be pretty much the same, it has been down for so long, that I thought Sharp would be surprising us with major new changes. On the other hand, it is gratifying to know that the site will be in the hands of a 3rd party, and not controlled solely by Sharp.
Do you know if there will be any \"official\" Sharp presence on devnet? The only advantage that the devnet had over this user group, is that it was possible to occasionaly get a response from a Sharp employee.
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« Reply #37 on: June 02, 2004, 02:54:47 pm »
SDG will be present and we have contacts within Sharp. As I meant to say, we can pass suggestions / ideas along to Sharp. Hopefully, some of them will be implemented. But, you\'ll need to consider that Sharp\'s target market is the enterprise with the SL-6000. That\'s why I think it\'s great to have ZUG, as well.
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« Reply #38 on: June 02, 2004, 03:02:02 pm »
Open to suggetions?  How about a Sharp Zaurus SL-C860-B with wifi, bluetooth, and camera... in the US?  
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« Reply #39 on: June 02, 2004, 03:26:14 pm »
tblumer,

Did you just start with SDG?  One of your earlier posts seems to suggest that you were not in the know about the site move details.  It is at least heartening to hear a Zaurus owner (you still own one?) is helping host the site.
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« Reply #40 on: June 02, 2004, 04:12:06 pm »
I was not \"in the know\" regarding the site going down. The big question was \"when\" would Sharp have the approvals from HQ in Japan to get the site back up and where. Yes, I founded SDG. :-) And, I still have a Z: 5000D, 5500, 5600, and 6000L. And a Familiar iPaq, and a Yopy. My wife\'s a bit confused by it all. ;-)
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« Reply #41 on: June 02, 2004, 06:05:33 pm »
So, is SDG aware of the OpenEmbedded movement and what can they do to support us?
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« Reply #42 on: June 03, 2004, 06:23:13 pm »
a zaurus and a wife...hmmmmm
a zaurus AND a wife......

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« Reply #43 on: June 03, 2004, 08:27:10 pm »
my wife has a zaurus ...
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« Reply #44 on: June 03, 2004, 09:26:53 pm »
My wife has a zaurus too.  She got the 5600 when my company gave  me the 6000.
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