IRK and Keypebble for Cacko

[Ling]

Hi,

I loaded Cacko 1.21b yesterday. It is a great piece of work and very useful. My modem is not working and I posted a seperate message on that. Also, the ipk's that I had for keypebble and irk don't seem to work. The links are broken on killefilz and the ones that I have been able to find in the feeds don't work. I would think that these are two widely used apps that are surely available for Cacko. The search engine seems to be broken today and returns everything no matter what the search terms. Any assistance is appreciated.

Ling

[qx773]

I think that I downloaded keypebble from the feed of this, the zaurususergroup.com web site, yesterday for the Sharp ROM.  The file was called:

opie-keypebble_1.5.0-20020319_arm.ipk

I also downloaded the libopie library for the Sharp ROM from:

http://opie.handhelds.org/feed/

The file was named:

libopie1_1.0.3_arm.ipk

Installing the *.ipk caused my Zaurus SL-C760 to lock up, and I had to remove the battery and reboot.

In order to use keypebble with the RealVNC server for Windows, you have to check the, "Request 8-bit session," checkbox and uncheck the, "Copy rectangle encoding," checkbox in keypebble. The options are available by clicking in the lower right hand side of the screen once you cancel out of the initial dialog box.  I found a message yesterday in an OPIE mailing list which indicated that there is no current maintainer of keypebble.

The RealVNC web site indicates that they have a Java VNC client which would allow any web browser with Java capability to act as a VNC client.  I am going to explore that next.

[qx773]

I had to set the port number of RealVNC v4.0 to 5901 in order to be able to connect to Screen 1 from keypebble.  The earlier version of RealVNC, version 3.3.7 was easier to set up.

[Ling]

I feel like a dope, but I found both files there. Keypebble installed fine. I will try it out when I get home to make sure it work. I use TightVNC at home and I don't have any of the issues w/ 8-bit, etc. It just works with no additional configuration. I will try out IRK when I get home also, it appears to have installed correctly. Thanks for your help.

[qx773]

It seems that keypebble might not need libopie to run.  I uninstalled libopie, and keypebble continued to work.

Keypebble seems to freeze, though, when it is in full screen mode and I try to change the options.  I then have to resort to pressing my KeyHelper application launch key combination to start the Terminal program and type without the benefit of any visual feedback:

killall keypebble

[Ling]

IRK from the feed worked fine. Keypebble did not. It ran, but would not connect to anything. No matter which of my VNC servers I tried to connect to, I got 'connection refused'. The interface is different than the version of keybpebble that I was running under the stock rom. Definitely a step back. I hope that someone is able to fix whatever is wrong. The other version of keypebble worked like a champ.

[qx773]

keypebble works with RealVNC.  As I mentioned earlier, you have to first change the settings in keypebble to:

Request 8-bit session
UNCHECK Copy Rectangle encoding under the Connection tab

[qx773]

I got my Zaurus SL-C760 to connect wirelessly to my Toshiba Libretto 50CT running the RealVNC server in Ad Hoc mode.  The Libretto is using an Orinoco Gold-equivalent PCMCIA wireless card that I bought on eBay.  My Zaurus is using an SMC2642W compact flash 802.11b wireless card.  The network setting program on the Zaurus lets you specify the Internet Protocol (IP) address of the Zaurus for the Ad Hoc connection.  I set the gateway to be the same as the IP address of the Zaurus.  The TCP/IP protocol settings of the wireless adapter on the laptop computer can be accessed from the Control Panel/Network program. I modified my Libretto, replacing the hard drive with a 256MB flash drive.  I recently loaded a retail version of Windows 98 onto it, which was an adventure in itself.  I now can drive around and look at a moving map display of Street Atlas v4.0 from the dashboard of my car.  The Street Atlas program is running on the Libretto, and RealVNC and keypebble are allowing me to use the C760 as a small terminal.  The Street Atlas updates its map based on the information from a Tripmate GPS device that is hooked up to the Libretto.  I think that I will need some kind of visor to block out the sunlight from the top and sides in the day time.

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If any of you are going to try this, I recommend that you get at least a 1GB flash drive, more if possible.  The flash drive is more resistant to bumps and extreme temperature changes than a hard drive.  You will also need a laptop computer with more than 32MB of RAM in order to avoid using a swap file, because using a swap file on the flash drive will make it wear out faster.

[Ling]

keypebble works with RealVNC.  As I mentioned earlier, you have to first change the settings in keypebble to:

Request 8-bit session
UNCHECK Copy Rectangle encoding under the Connection tab

Thanks. I had read your post in the other thread and I tried changing these two settings, no go. I like TightVNC, but I supposed that I can give RealVNC a try. When I was running keypebble on the Sharp ROM connecting to the same TightVNC server, I didn't have to change anything. This version seems to have a completely different user interface and just doesn't work the same.

[qx773]

Someone else mentioned on a different site that specifying a host alias name does not work with keypebble, but the fully qualified domain name does work.  I avoid that by just entering the IP address of the server for the host name.  That is 192.168.1.2 in my case.

[Ling]

Thanks, I will try that too. Again, it worked with KP under the Sharp ROM. I will try that this evening. I don't think that is the problem. I am getting a 'connection refused' type message that indicates that resolving the address is not the problem.

[qx773]

I noticed that on my computer, I have to manually start the wireless connection before starting keypebble or else I will get that, "Connection Refused," message.  Also, RealVNC does not allow unencrypted, unpassword-protected connections.

[qx773]

Yesterday, I added a 1GB Compact Flash card to my Libretto to act as a C: drive.  The drive first had to be formatted on the Libretto in order to reserve an area on the drive for hibernation.  I got a PCMCIA-to-hard drive adapter out of a 256MB Sandisk flash drive housing.  The Sandisk flash drive has a metal case with the physical dimensions and interface of a 2.5" hard drive.  If you open the case, inside you find a PCMCIA flash card plugged into a PCMCIA-to-44 pin IDE adapter.  Taking the top part of the case off makes it easier to fit the flash drive into the Libretto's drive bay.  I copied the files from the 256MB flash card to the 1GB compact flash card with the help of my desktop computer.  I hooked up the 256MB compact flash card to my desktop computer as though the flash card were a 2.5" hard drive.  Pin 1 of the 44-pin IDE interface is in the upper right corner near the cluster of jumper pins.  I put the 1GB compact flash card into a USB compact flash card reader.  I booted from my hard drive as normal and simply copied the files over from the 256MB Sandisk drive to the 1GB compact flash card.  I found that I had to use a BIOS extender called EZ-BIOS so that the 1GB CF card was visible on my laptop computer.  Otherwise, the screen would just be blank on my Libretto after it did a memory test during power on start up.  The EZ-BIOS program came on a floppy disk labeled, "MaxBlast," which came with one of my hard drives.  One disadvantage of using EZ-BIOS is that the compact flash card becomes unreadable in a desktop compact flash reader unless you remove the EZ-BIOS software, so you have to get all of the operating system and software onto the compact flash card first before you install the EZ-BIOS software.  After that, you just plug the 1GB compact flash card into a PCMCIA adapter, then plug the PCMCIA adapter into the PCMCIA-to-44 pin IDE adapter, then plug that into the laptop computer.  There are other 2.5" inch hard drive interface to compact flash adapters that are more direct, available from pricewatch.com, but they can be harder to fit into the Libretto in particular.

I now have a portable map of the entire United States on my laptop's flash drive, which I can use with a Tripmate GPS receiver to find my location anywhere in the United States.  I can use that in conjunction with the VNC software from http://www.realvnc.com to display the moving map on my Zaurusu SL-C760.  The Libretto 50CT and Zaurusu SL-C760 both have the same screen resolution of 640x480 pixels, so the screen dimensions match perfectly.

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I learned today that the keypebble VNC client does not work with a 256-color display on the VNC server.  I was wondering what the heck was going on as I was about to embark on a long journey.  The keypebble program would indicate that it was connected, but the contents of the keypebble window would remain a blank white.  I could see my stylus movements on the Zaurus SL-C860 being translated into movements on the Libretto computer.  Increasing the color depth to 16 bits (65536 colors) on the Libretto allowed me to see the VNC server screen from my Zaurus.

[Ling]

I gave up on mine for the time being. I am running TightVNC on my Windows boxes and don't really want to change. It worked fine with the Sharp ROM, so I am hoping that a working version of Keypebble will be complied for Cacko soon. Having read the success stories of people working with RealVNC, they are having to do a lot more fiddling than I did to get it working.