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« on: September 14, 2004, 06:14:02 am »
I've volunteered to get gpe-image in good working order (ish) for the release of OZ 3.5.1 next week. I've been making good head-way, but I'm just one person and it's unlikely that I'm going to catch all the major bugs before release, so I've made the most recent ROM image I've built available for download here http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~cil103/pub/ - If anyone has any spare time for testing, that'd be greatly appreciated. The kernel image here is 64-0, but any recent OE kernel should work fine if you'd prefer a different RAM configuration.

Known bugs/problems:
-rosetta doesn't work properly
-miniclipboard doesn't work*
-gpe-gallery crashes on some images
-Some gpe-conf programs don't work or are made for the ipaq
-File open dialog requires double-tap to open folders

* In this image it is due to a missing icon, but I've fixed that and it still doesn't work - If you'd like to experience the new error, edit /usr/share/applications/miniclipboard.desktop and change 'paste.png' to 'paste.xpm'

I will update the URL with other GPE packages as I add/fix/build them, check back often.

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« Reply #1 on: September 14, 2004, 11:11:03 am »
Recent OE kernels (Sep. 13th) for Z5000 & Z5500 can be found here:
http://www.hentges.net/misc/openzaurus/ker...xa3-embedix-r6/
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« Reply #2 on: September 14, 2004, 01:35:45 pm »
but as always nothing for the 5600...
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« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2004, 01:35:58 pm »
I just dusted off an old 5500 that had been sitting in a desk drawer forever.  I'd be willing to take it for a spin.  
Just loaded it.  
Damn,....  very nice.  Right off the bat I like it better than opie, but that's just first impression.
First question of course is sync options with Evolution?
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« Reply #4 on: September 14, 2004, 03:14:44 pm »
There's a plug-in for multisync, which allows you to sync with Evolution (among other applications) - You can find it here, I think: http://gpe.handhelds.org/pub/projects/gpe/source/ (source only)
I've not tried it, so I couldn't say if it worked or not..

The front-light brightness control doesn't work in the most recent image I've provided at the moment - I'm compiling another version now which will be available tomorrow where it should work fine. Will post here once it's uploaded, as well as any other changes that are made.

cycojesus - This image should build fine on the 5600 I think, however I don't own one so I couldn't say. I'll see if I can build an image for it tomorrow and upload, but it'll be completely untested, so I can't even say if it'd even boot or not.

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« Reply #5 on: September 14, 2004, 03:50:35 pm »
I'm running debian and there was no binary for gpe, so I'll have to try it out when I have a bit more time.
I did get it connected to my usb natted out so I was able to pull up a few web pages.  
I got to run but I made time to try out x2x.    
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# I heard that I can use my desktop's mouse and keyboard. How do I do that?

Just install x2x on your Linux desktop, execute on the iPAQ in a rxvt "xhost 192.168.0.1" and on your desktop: "x2x -to 192.168.0.2:0.0 -east". Now when you go with your mouse on the right out of your desktop's screen you come in to the left of your iPAQ. The best: keyboard follows mouse. Of course 192.168.0.1 needs to be substituted with your desktop IP and 192.168.0.2 with your iPAQ's IP adress.

There's also the "teleport" applet in the default dock, which lets you move some running applications to a new display. (Not all X apps work with it, though - is it only GPE apps? GTK ones? Someone please explain more...)

I am too easily entertained but this is by far the coolest thing I have ever done in linux

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« Reply #6 on: September 14, 2004, 05:05:16 pm »
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but as always nothing for the 5600...
Of course not. 5600 owners are isolated guys which don't want to participate on open source projects.

Seriously, could you please stop complaining to us about you 5600 guys not working on the 5600 specifics in OpenZaurus?
OZ 3.5.1 will be released also for the poodle, but - as I layed out in a previous post - probably once again by me blindly compiling an image for a device which i never touched or even seen in my life.

Guess how much testing it will receive that way...
« Last Edit: September 14, 2004, 05:09:45 pm by Mickeyl »
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« Reply #7 on: September 14, 2004, 10:06:29 pm »
Should we post back here when we find things thtat don't work.  Also I'd be willing to contribute effort towards writing documentation.
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« Reply #8 on: September 14, 2004, 11:06:52 pm »
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Of course not. 5600 owners are isolated guys which don't want to participate on open source projects.
That's a little rude there.

Personally I would work on OE, but for one factor. TIME. I don't have enough of it to devote most of my Zaurus use to testing OE over and over again. I did create a Sharp ROM based image, but the thing is, I don't have to build it from something known to be under heavy development (meaning rapid changes that one would have to keep up with). I'm only planning on updating this project of mine once every... Oh, 4-5 months when I get some time off school. OE is just moving too rapidly at this state...

I think the root of the issue is that few people have 5600s. There are some, but many people use 5500s, or have gone for the C-series (often 760s or 860s). The 5000D, 5600 and to some degree the 6000 are less used than the C-series (which are all pretty cross-compatible, except the kernel image), and the 5500. The 5000D of course is like the C-series. It's very compatible with the 5500. That sorta leaves the 5600 and the 6000 as the odd ones out...
Sorry. I just don't have the time...

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« Reply #9 on: September 15, 2004, 03:23:41 am »
Hi I have installed it and it looks very good.

Are there any packages available and has anybody got the usb-network settings up and running?


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« Reply #10 on: September 15, 2004, 03:47:12 am »
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but as always nothing for the 5600...
Of course not. 5600 owners are isolated guys which don't want to participate on open source projects.

Seriously, could you please stop complaining to us about you 5600 guys not working on the 5600 specifics in OpenZaurus?
OZ 3.5.1 will be released also for the poodle, but - as I layed out in a previous post - probably once again by me blindly compiling an image for a device which i never touched or even seen in my life.

Guess how much testing it will receive that way...
The isolated guy has been trying to oemake opie-images and gpe-images for weeks, always failed... The isolated guy think, innocently, that if you managed to get a workable 5500 image it *should* only be a matter of changing a few lines in local.conf to build the same image for the 5600, apparently too much work.

Who are the "us" you stand for ? I was not attacking anybody, not even complaining, just saying with a taste of despair that there where also people with 5600 Z around here that apparently nobody but ourselves (the 5600 guys) cares about. Now almost every 5600 user (at least Chaos and myself) is starting to build its own distro due to the lack of interest of others and the existing 5600 oriented distros getting outdated.

I'd LOVE to test OZ 3.5.x, even more as apparently (I like this word ) it have a standard like organized filesystem, a thing that I miss a LOT in Sharp or OZ 3.3.x roms. But if I can't build an image and NOBODY make one available so I could contribute it'll be a bit hard...
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« Reply #11 on: September 15, 2004, 05:09:38 am »
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The isolated guy has been trying to oemake opie-images and gpe-images for weeks, always failed...
I don't remember any posts from you to oe@handhelds.org describing your build problems.
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« Reply #12 on: September 15, 2004, 06:26:07 am »
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Are there any packages available and has anybody got the usb-network settings up and running?
I don't know about package availability,  but usb-networking is available.
Check this link for usb networking.
Here is a quick summary.
This isn't the only way to do it, but this worked for me.  YMMV
 Under Settings-->Network Setup-->usbd0:
1. Select static
2. Give your Z an ip address.  I used 192.168.129.201
3. Netmask: 255.255.255.0
4. Broadcast: I left this blank
5. Gateway:  This will be your pc.  I used 192.168.129.200
Under Settings-->Network Setup-->global: set the ip for your dns server.  I don't use a proxy so I left those two blank.

On your pc: 1. modprobe usbnet
I used two scripts from the above link for the next steps.  
zconnect:
Code: [Select]
[#!/bin/bash
ifconfig usb0 192.168.129.200 netmask 255.255.255.255 up
route add -host 192.168.129.201 usb0
echo "Z networking configured, ready to go."
/CODE]

and znat:
[CODE]#!/bin/bash

echo "Activating forwarding on host ..."
echo "1" > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward        # turn on forwarding

echo "Activating NAT on host ..."
iptables -t nat -F              # optional, depending on your situation
iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -j SNAT -o eth0 --to 192.168.0.1

for 192.168.0.1 use the ip address of your pc's ip.

Lastly, for shiznits and giggles, I got this from the GPE Site.
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Just install x2x on your Linux desktop, execute on the iPAQ in a rxvt "xhost 192.168.0.1" and on your desktop: "x2x -to 192.168.0.2:0.0 -east". Now when you go with your mouse on the right out of your desktop's screen you come in to the left of your iPAQ. The best: keyboard follows mouse. Of course 192.168.0.1 needs to be substituted with your desktop IP and 192.168.0.2 with your iPAQ's IP adress.

If we can get this working well for the Zaurus.  I believe GPE will offer more than others, especially once GPE package management for the zaurus becomes more available.

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« Reply #13 on: September 15, 2004, 06:53:39 am »
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The isolated guy has been trying to oemake opie-images and gpe-images for weeks, always failed...
I don't remember any posts from you to oe@handhelds.org describing your build problems.
true, I'm in the phase 1 : "Let's figure out what's going on"...
Beside that, I don't like the way openembedded is conceived, all that portage-like stuff p*** me off so I don't know if I really want to spend a lot of time digging into it ; but that's not the problem. The problem is that I want to understand how this kludge works so I could ask the right question or fix the stuff myself when the time come.
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« Reply #14 on: September 15, 2004, 02:01:53 pm »
cycojesus - Not really sure what you're complaining about now... Tell you what - buy/send me a 5600 and I'll provide everyone with working gpe/opie images for it

Anyway, back on topic - Will be uploading a new image tonight with a couple of fixes, and possibly some more packages... Stay tuned