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« on: October 27, 2004, 09:41:29 pm »
So I've been testing OZ 3.5.1 GPE on a SL5000D as some people asked me
to do (see the thread "I am trashing OZ 3.5.1" which I did not start, by  
the way). I apologise if this sounds negative. There are a bunch of nice  
things on this ROM and a lot of promise but my task here is to point out    
the problems I had. I've split the RAM 24-8, I'm not sure whether this
makes any difference.

On the previous occasion I flashed this ROM it ran very slowly, this time
it runs very well, maybe the earlier flash had some problem. There is no help
and the package manager is mistifying. Given that the ROM comes with very
few preinstalled apps, I think a working package manager should have been
first priority, but what do I know. I've decided to install from the command
line instead.

First thing I wanted to install was the rosetta patch, so I put it on a
CF card and ran ipkg install /mnt/cf/rosettapatch...
It gave me some warnings about no space on the CF card (but I was installing
to ROM) then it said installing rosettapatch... and later it said
configuring rosettapatch... at which point the zaurus restarted and prompted
me for my password (it does that a lot, see below). I couldn't tell whether
the installation was successful. Trying rosetta itself didn't work it wouldn't
run. So I made space on the CF card and tried to install again. This time
no warnings, no output and the zaurus kind of froze requiring a reboot.
I tried to run both rosetta and the learner from the command line and both
gave me segmentation fault. So I gave up on rosetta.

Next I tried to install dillo. ipkg install /mnt/cf/dillo...
gave me installing dillo..., then configuring dillo... and there it hung
again. After a reboot, I was surprised to see a new "web browser" icon
on the desktop. Dillo had installed! I wanted to test it so I had to be
online. I used the wlan manager to configure my D-Link DCF-650W card and
enter the WEP key. It seemed more or less straightforward but wouldn't
connect (I know the network is up and the card is OK because my other
Zaurus connects). So I tried an ethernet card (socket low-power)
and that worked fine without any configuration. Surfed the web with dillo,
used ssh, everything worked fine. This is not a bug, I realise, but I wish
that ssh -X was enabled. After all this ROM is X-based so it should work.
Later I tried wireless one more time but no luck. A few days later the
settings I had entered seemed to have disappeared from the wireless setup.

The other thing I wanted to use was TclTk (tclkit actually).
Again it works (under XQt) on my other Zaurus. Non-graphical Tcl works fine,
the canvas widget works fine even with animated graphics, mouse events, etc.
But if I try to put text on the canvas, it crashes and the zaurus restarts.
Same thing if I try any other widget: entry, label, button, etc. It is asking too
much to expect an outside app to work with an early release but maybe this
will point to some bug. This was all from the command line but no errors
came out.

I also opened the screen setup and my zaurus dimmed immediately. The
brightness control was at 10% and it could be slid up to 100% with the
screen brightnening up, but if I let go of the slider it went back to 10%
and dimmed. Seemed stuck there. Finally, I held the slider with the stylus
and pressed the OK button at the same time and it stayed bright! Not exactly
an elegant solution but will do for now.

I tried briefly a bunch of other things which mostly seemed to work as
intended. I am not much of a PIM guy, so I can't tell how good the apps
are. The text editor and sketch program seem very basic.

That's it. I'll keep the ROM for a while in case anybody wants me to follow up
on any of the things I mentioned.

Felipe
SL 5000 D  and C860 Sharp ROM
Too many accessories...

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« Reply #1 on: October 28, 2004, 06:30:26 pm »
I'll throw in my two cents as well.  I loaded up GPE on a 5500 last night, so my experience is brief.

First... the login passwords are highly annoying and should be optional.  It's a PDA, not a server.  I don't have a need for user accounts and don't want to be forced to use them.  Log me in as root and let me have at it.

Next...  
- The desktop arrangement itself is refreshing in that it is different.  I'm not certain yet if I prefer it over the opie method, but I do appriciate having the choice!  
- The response time seems noticably faster than opie.  
- Boot-up times are about the same.  
- There is no shutdown/reboot option?

And last...
Some things which I am having trouble setting up
- packages installed to SD are not recognized.  I added /mnt/card/usr/bin to $PATH, added /mnt/card/usr/lib to /etc/ld.so.conf, and was able to move /usr/share completely to /mnt/card/usr/share (then added a symlink to it in /usr).  I'm not certain what to do with /usr/libexec.  Also whenever I reboot, I have to manually run ldconfig to recognize /mnt/card/usr/lib files.
- Most of the packages I have tried to install rely on QT support files.  I guess it may be awhile before gpe has as many packages available (or maybe I'm missing something?)

Like others, I'm seeing the gpe will be great, but it's not there yet.  And the wiki plainly states that it is not ready for general use yet.  I will probably go back to it again at a later date.

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« Reply #2 on: November 30, 2004, 01:35:49 am »
Just flashed my SL-5000D to 3.5.1; but I am getting dismal response times. Every icon I tap takes about 20s to get fully loaded and ready for input. Surely this can't be right? Even though its in late-alpha beta stages?  I flashed to the opie-image just to check on its speed. It was much better.  Anybody else get this with the new gpe image. I tried both the 32-0 and 24-8 zImages with GPE, and the behavior is the same.

Also, I get hangs quite often (with either image) just fooling around opening and closing apps.
After all this flashing, did I somehow bork my Zaurus? Would dmesg flag some errant hardware on boot?

Thanks for any and all help,
-A

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« Reply #3 on: November 30, 2004, 07:00:19 am »
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- packages installed to SD are not recognized. I added /mnt/card/usr/bin to $PATH, added /mnt/card/usr/lib to /etc/ld.so.conf, and was able to move /usr/share completely to /mnt/card/usr/share (then added a symlink to it in /usr). I'm not certain what to do with /usr/libexec. Also whenever I reboot, I have to manually run ldconfig to recognize /mnt/card/usr/lib files.

This is not the way you should be installing things to the SD card. Assuming you do an 'ipkg install -d sd package_name.ipk', you should then be able to run 'ipkg-link add package_name' or 'ipkg-link mount /mnt/card' and the app will be symlinked and then be available (possibly after refreshing matchbox?).


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