Debian with Xqt

[jaja]

Hi all,

smuelas web site seems to be down. I need to get the .xmodmaprc file he posted there
to get the keyboard working right.

Could somebody be kind enough to post it here or point me to where i could find it.

Thanks

[smuelas]

It has been already fixed.
smuelas

[orange]

Hi Im very new to linux    but realy try to get this running but,

can someone tell me what to do to get this step done:

Modify --or write-- the file " .xinitrc " in /home/zaurus and let it finishing with " rxvt ". Comment " blackbox "

I dont got the file .xinitrc in /home/zaurus so I quess i have to write it?

X/Qt works fine I try to set this up on a C3k with standard sharp rom converted to english

thx

[nmos]

X/QT Versions and modmap.

Something I found out by accident is that there are 2  (at least) X/QT feeds:

http://xqt.sourceforge.jp/feed   This one is the one linked to from the X/QT downloads page.

http://xqt.sourceforge.jp/feed-testing   This is the one linked to by smuelas.

The latter one actually works really well for me but the former gave me the same xmodmap problems reported by others and some other quirkyness.  

In short, make sure you are getting the version you intend to get.

[hafken]

X/QT Versions and modmap.

Something I found out by accident is that there are 2  (at least) X/QT feeds:

http://xqt.sourceforge.jp/feed   This one is the one linked to from the X/QT downloads page.

http://xqt.sourceforge.jp/feed-testing   This is the one linked to by smuelas.

The latter one actually works really well for me but the former gave me the same xmodmap problems reported by others and some other quirkyness.  

In short, make sure you are getting the version you intend to get.

Yes! Thank you nmos, that did the trick! Now xmodmap accepts the .xmodmaprc with no errors!

It's so nice to be able to type ":" :-)

-dave

[unplug]

I finally start X without blackbox. Now I followed the instructions step by step until /usr/bin/icewm &
I got:
IceWM: Warning: Locale not supported by C library.
Falling back to 'C' locale'.
IceWM: using /home/root/.icewm for private configuration files
IceWM: Another window manager already running, exiting ...

I used ps -A and did not find any suspecious server except there were a couple of qserver.

What do I need to do?

[smuelas]

Just restart the process. Probably something remained from last try. Dont forget that I have written in the web page, to comment a line, a double slash like " // ", but this is wrong. You must type  " # " instead. My mind was with Java at the moment. Sorry
smuelas

[unplug]

I was so fructrated that I reflesh my 6000 to its original sharp rom. Then I install the terminal I downloaded from Sharp website because I didn't want to dig out the installation CD. Then I installed packages that I downloaded from http://xqt.sourceforge.jp/feed-testing and they were installed in sequence

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xqt-fonts-misc 4.3.0-3
xqt-server 0.0.9
glibc-locale-eucjp 2.2.5-2
xbase-etc 4.3.0-2
xlibs 4.3.0-2
xqt-startup-scripts 0.0.2
xbase-client 4.3.0-2
blackbox 0.65.0.1
rxvt
After that I comment out blackbox and my .xinitrc looks like:

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#!/bin/sh
export LANG=ja_JP.eucJP
export DISPLAY=:0.0

rxvt &
#blackbox
Then I create a link between /home/QtPalmtop/bin/X and /home/QtPalmtop/bin/Xqt by

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ln -s /home/QtPalmtop/bin/Xqt /home/QtPalmtop/bin/X
now I saw X -> Xqt under /home/QtPalmtop/bin

Then when I click Start X, it only went to the big ugly X cursor back to Qt!!! Come on, it is way too much frustration for me on Christmas. I don't think I am a linux newbie, but this is too much for me!! Please help me.

[pelrun]

Quick answer: Delete the & after rxvt.

X quits when the .xinitrc script finishes, so at least one line in it must pause the execution. Any commands with & get put in the background and allow the script to continue independently, so you need one line without it.

Normally the blocking line is for the windowmanager (e.g. blackbox) - that way wm's don't need some special way of telling X to quit; all they have to do is quit themselves. Since we want to start the wm manually you need rxvt to block the script instead. So rxvt becomes the line without the & instead of blackbox.

[smuelas]

Hi, pelrun,
Thanks for your explanations a lot clearer than mine.
I've seen that you own a C860 and I would like to know if you have tried the "X" distribution from Cacko. If so, have you found big diferences in speed between those and Debian/xqt ?
I'm always a little bit disapointed seeing that with Debian/xqt there seems to be quite a big work on the background, I guess due to the Xserver. In fact, when I used openzaurus+GDM and launched Debian with the same system, there was no background work at all, but this did not improve the speed, nor the capacity when in Debian. On the contrary, big applications freezed the system.
What are your feelings about ?
My only conclusion is that X/QT is extremely well done.
It is a pity not to have one of our zauruses with the newest Xscale and, at least 128 Mb ram. In my opinion this will not increment the price enormously and we will have a real, complete hand-computer. No need to expend $2000 on an Oqo.
Thanks for your time
smuelas

[unplug]

Thanks! That solve the problem. I can start icewm now but there are some locale problems that I need to tackle.

[pelrun]

I haven't tried pdaXrom yet - flashing to Cacko 1.21b was a big enough step that I didn't want to repeat for a while. When 1.22 comes out I'll be trying out all the different roms before flashing to it, but that hasn't arrived yet. So I can't really compare the performance to anything. X/Qt has been well and truly good enough to make moving to pdaXrom not so important

I definitely wouldn't mind getting more ram, though I think half my problem is the version of GPSDrive I've been using has a memory leak

[unplug]

I have tried different combinations but still have no luck. I reboot 6000 on every try. Here is what I did:
(after start X)

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su
/bin/mount -t -proc /proc /mnt/cf/debroot/proc
/sbin/chroot /mnt/cf/debroot
(I already have a 64K swap file on cf card)
/sbin/swapon swapfile
/etc/init.d/ssh start
ln -s /root /home/root (I usually got an error because /root is already exist)
export DISPLAY=0:0 (I also tried DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0)
/usr/bin/icewm &
And I got:

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IceWM: Warning: Locale not supported by C library. Falling back to 'C' locale'.
IceWM: using /home/root/.icewm for private configuration filesHowever, I did not see the actual message because the terminal is too small and the text does not wrap up.

I still see an icon "IceWM" on the left buttom corner if I used drop down menu and selected fullscreen to hide sharp tool bar. It does not seem to function correctly when I clicked it.

I also did apt-get install locales when I was in debian terminal, it worked fine but did not solve my problem.

[nmos]

Don't waste your time on the "Locales" warnings.  I'm pretty sure all (or at least most) of us are seeing those and they don't seem to be hurting anything.  

FWIW when I ran the postinstall script from the debian package it placed file called Vncserver in /usr/local/bin as well as file called zdebian in /etc/rc.d/init.d and a config file in /etc.  Basically when my system boots it runs the zdebian script based options in the config file in /etc.  That handles mounting the proc file system etc.   Then when I want to actually use that enviornment I:

Click <startx> and wait for the rxvt to start up.
Bring up a terminal window (from the applications tab, not within X) and type su to become root.
Type Vncserver to bring up icewm.
Click on the running Xwindows Icon and it's all working.  

I had to adjust the config file in etc and also the Vncserver script to make this work.

[hatchetman]

You probably only need to adjust your LANG variable to fix your locale problems. The default is set to Japanese when you install the X/Qt startup scripts.

Open up /home/zaurus/.xinitrc and change the first line to

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export LANG=en_USI noticed if I left it to Japanese, sylpheed wouldn't spell check anymore (in English anyways).

Hope that fixes it for you. If not maybe installing the locales package, and selecting the correct one with the configuration wizard.