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« Reply #105 on: April 04, 2005, 03:54:03 pm »
When was this released ?

at last I must say...
I downloaded the 5000D ROM, lets give it a spin today maybe...

BTW, all the ROM's have the Music player crash problem listed along with no Wireless activation on the 6000. So apart from the Musicplayer issue it should be pretty stable.
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« Reply #106 on: April 04, 2005, 04:13:09 pm »
And it sounds like its based on OpenZaurus.

I just flashed (Sans power supply) and I'm awaiting it to boot now.

It's got a nice looking TROLLTECH graphic as part of the kernel

Feels farily fast, Has a lot of apps installed.

Very nice looking GUI.

I've not figured out how to get my WIFI working yet.

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« Reply #107 on: April 04, 2005, 04:55:04 pm »
It doesnt seem to have any way to suspend it, Cancel doesnt do anything but close whatever app was open.

Theres no dmesg binary so I cant tell if my CF WIFI is being recognised correctly.

The on screen handwriting is cool.

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« Reply #108 on: April 04, 2005, 05:01:26 pm »
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When was this released ?

Don't know, just stumbled along it on the qtopia.net site when looking for Qtopia development info. The qtopia.net site looks new, so may be a few days?

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« Reply #109 on: April 04, 2005, 07:35:31 pm »
 announcement yet to be released
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« Reply #110 on: April 04, 2005, 09:05:44 pm »
sadly mine asks for a passcode.

I will try to replace the kernel and see if it boots and has touchscreen before I flash back

hmmm.... judging by what the replacement kernel is finding, the flash left the system pretty crufty, that might be the source of the password.

 Qtopia wouldn't launch from the "new" kernel. That probably means wireless just isn't gonna go.

edit:  restored to factory then flashed to 2.1 worked perfectly. It is pretty--looks a lot like OZ/Opie.  Since it isn't done yet (I assume) I flashed back so I could use my Z.

Nice though  I had been looking forward to seeing some of this.
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« Reply #111 on: April 04, 2005, 10:24:37 pm »
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sadly mine asks for a passcode.

I will try to replace the kernel and see if it boots and has touchscreen before I flash back

hmmm.... judging by what the replacement kernel is finding, the flash left the system pretty crufty, that might be the source of the password.

 Qtopia wouldn't launch from the "new" kernel. That probably means wireless just isn't gonna go.

edit:  restored to factory then flashed to 2.1 worked perfectly. It is pretty--looks a lot like OZ/Opie.  Since it isn't done yet (I assume) I flashed back so I could use my Z.

Nice though  I had been looking forward to seeing some of this.
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It appears to be based on OZ 3.3.6 and not 3.5.1 or 3.5.2, That may influence the kernel you need to run.

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« Reply #112 on: April 05, 2005, 01:41:05 am »
I wouldn't know where to get OZ 3.3.6 patches--- nor do I have any confidence in my ability to make them work on the fast 6k setup.
I expect you are right though.
I was hoping the 2 pane advancedfm wouuld be in here, too.
still--- this could be pretty cool if it got finished.
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« Reply #113 on: April 05, 2005, 08:35:56 pm »
I'm probably missing something here, but if the TT Roms are based on (old) OZ, why not just contribute whatever they have to OZ directly?
edit: I think I get it: Opie is actually based on Qtopia. But why base the TT roms on such an old OZ version?

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« Reply #114 on: April 05, 2005, 11:57:11 pm »
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I'm probably missing something here, but if the TT Roms are based on (old) OZ, why not just contribute whatever they have to OZ directly?
edit: I think I get it: Opie is actually based on Qtopia. But why base the TT roms on such an old OZ version?
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I believe it said on the site that it was based on a "Stable" release of OZ, Every version past 3.3.6 has been marked as "Unstable" to my knowledge.

That could be the reason that they used it instead of 3.5, Or maybe they started working on the image before 3.5 was available.

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« Reply #115 on: April 06, 2005, 05:28:54 am »
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Ah thanks. Wouldn' have been my way to go about it, but now I get why they did it that way

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« Reply #116 on: April 06, 2005, 05:31:16 pm »
but why base it on OZ at all?  I mean if compatibility is the issue.. then base it on sharp or a tetsu kernel.  If it isn't an issue, then the age of the oz is a problem.  It just doesn't seem quite right. though I guess it must have to do with the "reabsorption" of opie.
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« Reply #117 on: April 06, 2005, 06:08:09 pm »
The OZ 3.3.6 Source is newer than the old Sharp rom source while still being compatible (in 3.3.2 anyway).

I'd guess thats why they picked it over the old Sharp sources.

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« Reply #118 on: April 06, 2005, 09:21:33 pm »
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The OZ 3.3.6 Source is newer than the old Sharp rom source while still being compatible (in 3.3.2 anyway).

I'd guess thats why they picked it over the old Sharp sources.
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If it worked, it would be a good decision.  On the 6k wireless is gone in 2.1. There are newer patched 2.4 kernels ( I think they are newer anyway) from tetsu that actually support the hardware in the box. I don't mean to sound cranky about this, but even OZ came out with better hardware support in their 1st shot on the 6k--and they admit to being unstable.  Qtopia's pitch has been "it works--bleeding edge is bad because it doesn't work right" I am surprised to see this. Not disappointed, or inclined to blame trolltech for a messy demo or anything like that (2.1 is pretty cool)--it is simply the opposite of what I had understood their position on development to be--it is ..OEish. I'm sure that something that works beautiflly will come out of this eventually.
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« Reply #119 on: May 11, 2005, 05:25:32 am »
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The OZ 3.3.6 Source is newer than the old Sharp rom source while still being compatible (in 3.3.2 anyway).

I'd guess thats why they picked it over the old Sharp sources.
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If it worked, it would be a good decision.  On the 6k wireless is gone in 2.1. There are newer patched 2.4 kernels ( I think they are newer anyway) from tetsu that actually support the hardware in the box. I don't mean to sound cranky about this, but even OZ came out with better hardware support in their 1st shot on the 6k--and they admit to being unstable.  Qtopia's pitch has been "it works--bleeding edge is bad because it doesn't work right" I am surprised to see this. Not disappointed, or inclined to blame trolltech for a messy demo or anything like that (2.1 is pretty cool)--it is simply the opposite of what I had understood their position on development to be--it is ..OEish. I'm sure that something that works beautiflly will come out of this eventually.
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wifi works on the 6000, you just have to manually edit one file, and run commands to get it running.

Also, there is not a slew of developers working 24/7 on these roms.. just one. and I have many other duties to do as well.
If you don't like the few limitations there are, don't use it.

Patches and fixes are of course, welcome...

I never once said "it works--bleeding edge is bad because it doesn't work right". What I said was these roms use a _stable_ openzaurus. Stable as in not a constantly moving target version revisions. Debian stable is quite slow moving in this aspect also.

The reason I did not use a Sharp based rom, is that they are not a very standard Linux directory structure and its difficult to maintain. Actually, the a300 rom is based on the Sharp rom, and I believe this is the only non Sharp rom for this device.
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