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caunt

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« on: November 18, 2004, 11:12:12 am »
Hello folks,

I've been trying out many ROM's on my new (to me) 5000d.  Because of the very limited memory, the Hybrid ROM looks really good:
  - it installs to SD in a 30-0 configuration  AND
  - (something no other rom has) can UNinstall any programs included in the ROM, making the best possible use of the little memory I have (eg replacing the included calculator with neocalc instead of having both installed).

BUT.   many apps, though they will install, cannot  be found by the system
Some of you have gotten things to work it would appear:

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luimarma
"I finally found that the applications do not run because missing symbols in qtopia libs (the symbols that sharp added)."
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But i'm a complete newbie to both the zaurus and linux.  Can anyone help me figure out what symbols are missing and how to fix the problem?

thanks in advance,

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« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2004, 04:06:03 pm »
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(something no other rom has) can UNinstall any programs included in the ROM

Actually OpenZaurus allows this, and works on the 5000D.

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But i'm a complete newbie to both the zaurus and linux. Can anyone help me figure out what symbols are missing and how to fix the problem?

Post some output (when you try to run these apps from the command line) and we'll see what we can do.


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« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2004, 06:43:41 pm »
"Actually OpenZaurus allows this, and works on the 5000D."

Hmmm.  The fact that I was greener than spring grass on my first install is showing!  OpenZaurus was the first ROM I tried, andI didn't notice the difference between it and cacko/Kompany in this regard. Thank you for pointing it out.


"Post some output (when you try to run these apps from the command line) and we'll see what we can do."

I already went and flashed the kompany rom, so this may take some time.  (it's pretty - but it takes up TOO much of my limited memory).   In the meantime, let me follow up on the OZ lead.  One of the reasons I let it go was that I read that a pdf reader was still unavailable.  But then I also read that the hancom apps wouldn't install normally, yet elsewhere, folks mentioned that one could use "compatibility libs" and they would work.  Could one use these compatibility libs to get the pdf2 reader to work?

And P.S.  Thank you very much for taking the time to respond!

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« Reply #3 on: November 19, 2004, 06:47:24 am »
Yes, it might well work for qpdf2, though I'm not completely sure (problems could occur due to the use of soft-float, so if qpdf2 uses floating point instructions it probably won't work). I imagine someone will have tried it though.


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« Reply #4 on: November 20, 2004, 12:17:28 am »
Thanks lardman,

I think I may try the OZ build again, before going back to the hybrid.  I think I'm discovering that there are things I like and things I dislike about each of my possibilities, and that I have to narrow things down to priorities.

I suspect part of my trouble with hybrid was using the wrong packages???  Some apps installed, others said they installed, but I could never find them (this was true of the advancedFM I like so well), others (I think these maybe were the wrong packages for a sharp build) said they installed but complained when I tried to run them.  I guess I'll work with hybrid again a little later.

at least I know:

 - I want a Rom that will leave me the full 30mb I have for ram
  (narrows the field to hybrid, cacko and OZ I believe)  ***most important***
 - I'm still woefully ignorant.  I need a rom where installing is not TOO difficult, or where it's common enough that I can find help on the web. (hybrid falls a bit short on the "common"part it seems)
 - I'd like PDF, the hancom apps, and most of the other neat apps I've seen so far - but I guess I may have to compromise here.
   - I like being able to remove stuff I don't want from the ROM
  (guess this narrows the field to hybrid and OZ ???)
  I like the "document"  tabs which allow you to list files instead of just giving you icons.  Is this something that can be removed from hybrid and a better one installed?  I couldn't find the appropriate package if so. ( I just gutted my hybrid install trying to find a package I could uninstall to remove the docs tab - with no real data yet, I ahve a lot of freedom   ).
 - I'd like to be able to sync easily with a windows machine.


the hybrid 1.54 version says:
" Alternative GUI systems can be installed instead of (or in addition to) Qtopia shipped with Sharp ROM, such as OPIE, Pico GUI, etc. One can boot into a different GUI just by swapping SD card!"

Does anyone know how to do this? or how one "installs" qtopia?  Hybrid doesn't come with much documentation or help now that the main site is down