Sl-6000l On Amazon For $300 Right Now!

[blackspion]

Well... even if you were just thinking about it.... you might call up amazon... or email their customer service and say...
"Yanno, I have been thinking about making an electronics purchase here, but I've been hearing reports of members being victimized by cybercrimes..... what do you guys do to find and punish these criminals and prevent further crimes?"
or something like that.
the more the merrier..and the porelikley something will come of this.

Hi,
Im reading this thread since beginning and have seen it grown
 

Here my 2ct

I had ordered the SL at $300 cause I missed the 380 offer
but only ordered at someone I didn`t know anything about
cause of the good reputation and specially the A-to-z Guarantee
from amazon.com.

The second reason has been the easy way to do the payment
using my credit card to pay at a privat persons offer
no Western Union, Moneyorder or anything else

So crying "victims, shoot the gangsters.." an so on can`t be the way,
reading the posts amazon offers earlier payback than the 30 days
even if it`s not clear what`s going on shows to me that amazon
is quite a fair partner in shopping.
So let them time to do their job, they ore their insurance have to
pay the bill

Victims of a crime are IMHO people that have been harder hit
for their health or money.

We tried a game - the trophy has been a cheap gadget - the only risk
a little bit of frustration and our money for a short period not in our pocket.
So what.  

I got a little bit more lucky cause the payment with my german credit card
doesn`t work for this deal (nobody could explain that to me until now)

 kind regards

Wolfgang

[f1oyd1an]

SHaubner.. i think you're wrong about Yahoo=untraceable thing. try sending an email to yourself on yahoo and expand the mail headers. the "received from" will show the IP of your COMPUTER (or your home router). ie. the IP that is allocated by your internet provider.

[wizzard]

Because of Amazon's A to Z guarantee, we won't lose money. Amazon will. So they should (and probably would) pursue the fraudster and not us. So basically for us we simply didn't get the candy that we wanted. (booo hooo)

[wizzard]

Just spoke with a very rude "Team Leader" from Amazon's cutomer service. Now she says that the refund process can only be started 3days after the estimated delivery date. Since my estimated delivery date is between 9th and 23rd Dec, this means that I can only ask for reimbursement on the 26th. There goes my Christmas!

[adf]

I have yet to see the reimbursement from amazon.
The a-z guarantee seemed really  devised to be  more of a botched transaction protection than a way to handle known fraud. Amazon needs to check into this and act quickly. NOT hang on to money (they get a small cut remember) that was gained through a fraud they facilitated.
   Don't get me wrong, I like amazon, appreciate their guarantee and will buy books and movies from them in the future.  Nonetheless, I gave my money to THEM, to pay a vendor THEY authorized. As soon as they know that this is a scam they should repay every cent plus some small compensation out of sheer embarrassment.  I wouldn't have even looked at this deal from "cartrunkreseller.shady.com."  I bought because I had confidence in AMAZON.  That I will eventually see my money again is only partial (though admittedly a very large part) justification for that confidence.
   This was my first electronics purchase from their site, and my 2nd transaction with a 3rd party seller on Amazon. I am not left with a good feeling. especially in that I was not planning to upgrade yet, risked the wrath off my wife, nearly sold my 5600 all over a good deal from a site that I had thought to be reputable, a notion of which I am now disabused.

yeah it isn't the titanic, I'm not gonna die, we'll all be ok. sure. But that doesn't make any of it ok.  only Amazon can do that and a refund 30 days after a fraud facilitated by them doesn't really cut it. we'll see. I hope they do the right thing I even tink they might....
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[DaveAnderson]

Just spoke with a very rude "Team Leader" from Amazon's cutomer service. Now she says that the refund process can only be started 3days after the estimated delivery date. Since my estimated delivery date is between 9th and 23rd Dec, this means that I can only ask for reimbursement on the 26th. There goes my Christmas!

If a $300 investment is going to break the bank (which, judging by your post, it is), you shouldn't have ordered it to begin with.

[Omicron]

Just spoke with a very rude "Team Leader" from Amazon's cutomer service. Now she says that the refund process can only be started 3days after the estimated delivery date. Since my estimated delivery date is between 9th and 23rd Dec, this means that I can only ask for reimbursement on the 26th. There goes my Christmas!

Well, you might wnat to check with your credit card and make sure you have more than 30 days to make a claim to thm should Amazon not refund (although that is doubtful).

[wizzard]

If a $300 investment is going to break the bank (which, judging by your post, it is), you shouldn't have ordered it to begin with.

Dear DaveAnderson
1)Some of us are not overly blessed with disposable $$$s.
2)Yes, I cannot afford to lose $300.
3)Yes I could have afforded to order it at $379 but wanted to save some money (see reason 1).
4) See adf's post. Similar situation.
5)Whether I should or shouldn't have ordered, and the state of my finances, are simply NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS!!  

(apologies to other ZUG-ers for shouting)

[neuroshock]

DaveAnderson,

That was harsh.

That was unhelpful and did not contribute in any positive way to this thread, and I'm sure it hurt Wiz, (heck I winced and it wasn't even directed at me.)

That was a pure flame, that had no other content except the flame itself.

This violates expected forum conduct in every way shape and form, and brings embarrassment on the ZUG community as it can be viewed by members and non-members alike.

I am disappointed.  At the least stay focused and only contribute things that are benefitial, helpful, or continue the continuity of the thread.

-NeuroShock

[alouette]

I would be interested to know how many (tally?) have contacted Amazon.  

My son (Paul) purchased 2, I purchased one.  Paul called Amazon this AM, and was treated pretty well.  I called just a few minutes ago, and asked the rep if she knew of any ongoing investigation of this guy or this incident.  She acted really *dumb* and said she'd make a note of looking into this.  

I assume that, in order to transfer funds to JP Amazon would have more info, more trackable info, on this guy.

Lastly, a comment to Dave Anderson: unless I were Bill Gates, I'd rather not have $300 tied up in something--even if I were sure I'd get it back.  Be nice.

DMK
Santa Cruz

[dz]

Guys

Although I understand you're all pissed, please try not to turn this into a war against eachother.  You are all in this together and there's no point in arguing against eachother.

If I may make a suggestion, why not just call your credit card company and tell them what happened.  Tell them you think it was fraud but aren't sure.  That way if you do end up receiving the Zaurus, you just tell them and they'll hand the money over.  If you don't, they can put a hold on it.

Remember, the credit card company has more money than all of us combined and they have a team that's more than ready to handle this kind of situation.

[adf]

That's the thing. They should KNOW by now. they have his account and contact info. They should (and surely have?) have made an attempt at contact. In which case they surely know that we have been defrauded by now. (or otherwise, but I doubt it). Doesn't knowing this, having been the broker of the sale,  and not doing anything for us in some way make them a party to it? Not that I mean they intend to rob us or even intend to withold our refunds, but rather that more action and more information should be required of them at this point.
I appreciate their guarantee, but I think their responsibilities are maybe more immediate under such circumstances.
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[adf]

Visa check card dz. I don't like to pay interest. Funds been transferred to amazon already  I think maybe amazon could have done something when I first called yeasterday morning after reading zuggres suspicions here, but they told me they have a team of guys that look into things like this and there isn't anything wrong with pettins account.  
The said otherwise later on, of course.

[wizzard]

I agree with adf. Once Amazon receives complaints it should initiate an investigation, and probably has, but does it have to be so secretive about it? I think that we as the consumers have a right to know. A simple mail from Amazon that they are looking into the matter would be acceptable, I guess. IMHO they are acting pretty irresponsibly regarding this, acting like it is not their concern.

[SHaubner]

That's the thing. They should KNOW by now. they have his account and contact info. They should (and surely have?) have made an attempt at contact. In which case they surely know that we have been defrauded by now. (or otherwise, but I doubt it).

Amazon is one of the biggest, if not the biggest, e'tailers in the country.  This Marketplace thing is just extra gravy for them.  This is one of millions of transactions they do every day.  As far as they are concerned, jpettins may just "have the flu" as he told one of the buyers, and they expect that most transactions eventually work out.  As with PayPal, they give the seller the benefit of the doubt (unlike the buyer who is out of money) and a fixed window of time to respond to allegations.

From an casual observer, this case stinks of fraud, and follows all the classic signs of typical eBay/auction fraud.  Until their fraud department puts all of the pieces together and the window to respond has elapsed, I infer that they won't do much, unfortunately, and this may take a week or more.  And I'm sure he followed all the loopholes (14-day limitation on fund access, etc.) in order to maximize the fraud.  And it's probably likely that the funds were diverted to an account that was created by ID theft so even if it fell through there would be no implications.

Again, it's sad and frustrating for everyone involved.  With all these folks, it's too bad we couldn't do a group order of Z6K's from Sharp or a wholesaler at a great price..