Sl-6000l On Amazon For $300 Right Now!

[nilch]

Theres a few Zaurus 6000l at Ebat for around 375 - 400.

What is the general consensus - is it worth going for it, or is somebody who is aware of us fools falling for $3000 Zaurii is now baiting us with a more realistic but juicy price of sub $400 ?

Should I go for ebay ? How reliable is it ?Like with Amazon I know my money will be refunded, I have never really used ebay for puchases.

[Omicron]

Theres a few Zaurus 6000l at Ebat for around 375 - 400.

What is the general consensus - is it worth going for it, or is somebody who is aware of us fools falling for $3000 Zaurii is now baiting us with a more realistic but juicy price of sub $400 ?

Should I go for ebay ? How reliable is it ?Like with Amazon I know my money will be refunded, I have never really used ebay for puchases.

Ebay has some type of insurance, but it is pretty lame, and low value I believe.

If you buy via ebay and pay thru paypal then paypal will back you for up to $500 (Conditions apply, see paypal for details).


I noticed that some of my transactions had this gaurantee and some did not (tells you for sure right before you go to pay).  

I personally have used this system and it is okay, but not great, and they don't cover "Quality of Item" issues.  Like if the screen is all scratched, then you are pretty much on your own.  However, there is still the Credit card  avenue with paypal (just make sure that the money is extracted from your credit card and not you bank account and not through "paypal funds" you've built up....only credit card withdrawels are covered by credit card companies.)  To ensure this, you could setup a NEW paypal account under a spouses name and use a different credit card.  Then the money would have to be extracted through the card.  Still all very comlicated though, since you essentially need to work everything through the other persons name, just in case.

Best bet is to get a seller with a good history and a LONG history on Ebay.  

However, I would be wary of anyone selling these for less than $400 (unless they are used/opened).  Resaon being is that a new one at $379 would have to be sold above $400 to make a profit,  Both Amazon, Ebay and Paypal take a commission, so unless the seller bought the unit for themselves and tried it but never got into it (and willing to take a loss),  I can't see  how a person buying/selliing could make a profit on a new one unlesss it sold for more than $400.  (Closer to $425 at a bare minimum (before shipping)).

[Omicron]

This guy looks pretty Legitimate.  (I have no association with this person, not even as a customer...so there is still (always) risk involved):




This seller fits the criteria for a relatively low-risk buy at a decent price (although  insane shpping cost).  

1) He's got long history
2) Lots of feedback (not perfect, but read the negs and see what the issue was, I haven't).
3) Selling at a profit (assuming a $379 purchase)

oh, crap, just noticed a $25 shipping fee.....OUCH.

Damn !!

Well, here's the link if anyone doesn't mind the $450+ price tag:

Click here for a Seller on Ebay with many unit and with a 7900+ feedback  (about 22 negs total)

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I actually am plannig to buy AFTER christmas. 300 on myself during christmas shopping time kinda shocked the wife. If I'm going to have to go to around 400 I can wait a coulpe weeks till I get my money back And my wif is ok with it.

My emails to these amazon vendoras are just tauning sustpected frads..and posting 'em here as a lesson about fraud,, some fun reading and because I am kinda vindictive.
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[nmos]

Theres a few Zaurus 6000l at Ebat for around 375 - 400.

What is the general consensus - is it worth going for it, or is somebody who is aware of us fools falling for $3000 Zaurii is now baiting us with a more realistic but juicy price of sub $400 ?

Should I go for ebay ? How reliable is it ?Like with Amazon I know my money will be refunded, I have never really used ebay for puchases.

Well, personally I've been buying and selling on Ebay for 5+ years and this was my first experience with Amazon Marketplace.  My next Z will almost certainly come from Ebay unless I see one I like in the "For Sale" section of this forum.

Some things to keep in mind about Ebay though.:

1.  Expect to be on your own.  Although there is some kind of insurance you should plan on it being useless.  I actually do expect Amazon to eventually live up to their guarantee.

2.  The real action on an auction doesn't happen untill the last few hours/minutes so just because there some Z's for sale at $400 currently don't think they are going to actually end up at that price.  In fact when I've sold things, the ones I started out low are the ones that finished highest. Because of this it's not unusual or a sign of a scam to see an expensive item start off at $0.99  or whatever. Check out previous completed auctions to see what the going price is.

3.  Newbies especially tend to overpay on Ebay.  There's always another one out there.

4.  Look at the seller's history, not just the score but look at what the problems were and what kinds of things the seller was selling.  To me a seller who's been on ebay for a year or more is better than one who has only been around a few months but has racked up a high score.

5.  Don't assume anything.  Dont assume anything!   Also don't buy complicated things like laptops unless you really know what you're doing.  People won't tell you that it's missing the power cube or whatever unless you ask so if it matters to you then ask.

6.  There are some really great folks on Ebay.  I  bought some Laserjet printer repair kits from ricks66gs on Wednesday and had them in hand on Friday.  That's better than Newegg!

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I'm with nmos.

Never had any such problem on ebay, but ecpect to be on my own there.
I do have a bis I just won that I haven't heard back on.... but I haven't sent money either

Here is the latest on the florida based 300 z 600 --see previous conversation in this thread--

Hi. This is the qmail-send program at yahoo.com.
I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following
addresses.
This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.

<facibine16@yahoo.com>:
67.28.113.11 failed after I sent the message.
Remote host said: 554 delivery error: dd This user doesn't have a
yahoo.com account (facibine16@yahoo.com) [-5] - mta165.mail.re2.yahoo.com

--- Below this line is a copy of the message.

I hope this is because they thought We were on to them and not 'cuz some poor bastard sent 'em money....

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[blackspion]

<facibine16@yahoo.com>:
67.28.113.11 failed after I sent the message.
Remote host said: 554 delivery error: dd This user doesn't have a
yahoo.com account (facibine16@yahoo.com) [-5] - mta165.mail.re2.yahoo.com

--- Below this line is a copy of the message.

I hope this is because they thought We were on to them and not 'cuz some poor bastard sent 'em money....

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I got the same western union nonsense when asking for the 6k
so I wrote to Yahoo (the spam contact) also pointing to this thread.
2 hours ago the answer arrived  
kr
Wolfgang

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Looks like yougot 'em then

1 point for Wolfgang

[neuroshock]

Well, because I was stupid enough to leave a my PM screen open on my browser and walk away, my wife took one look at how much the 6k was worth and that I had one laying around unused and spazzed.  She is making me list my extra 6000L for sale immediately rather than waiting until January as I had planned.  (Wiz had innocently inquired as to when and how much I would be selling it for.)  

It is now listed in the "For Sale/Wanted" Forum here on the ZUG and it will remain there for a week or until it is sold, whichever is less.  It will then be listed on Ebay for the masses.  (The only concession my wife allowed me was to give Zuggers a shot at it first.)

It isn't a $300 deal by any means, but it is a very safe transaction from a known source if anyone is interested.  Maybe it will take the sting out of someone done wrong by jpettins.

*sigh*  It totally SUCKS to be in the dog house during Christmas time!

-NeuroShock

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I just bought my new 6000 on ebay. If everything is going well, it should be here by tuesday. Paid $412 + $19 shipping. Seller seemed legit. Lots of small ($.99 - $10.00) transactions made up a good chunk of his feedback, but he just bought a $27,000 truck and got good feedback, and he seemed real cool, so I'm keeping my fingers crossed. I'll report back on tuesday

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facibine is back on amazon.... as facibine18 insted of facibine 16.

300 dollar z

Absolutely amazing. How can they allow this?? Do their investors know how sloppy this is?

I could save amazon a fortune  with a few simple rules........

ANd probably do wonders for their long term outlook in third party online transactions too....

Thank god my school isn't run like a business  

[wizzard]

$280 now in Amazon. Being sold by amaz_s25@yahoo.com. Just launched. Ships from TX, United States.  C'mon guys. Bring out your credit cards and dust off your checkbooks. Won't last long (judging from our previous experiences).  
It gets more "Amazon" by the day.  
At least I am amazed..........

[f1oyd1an]

seems like theres a big network of amazon scammers and they compete among themselves..

and i think this guy just created his yahoo id
amaz_s25@yahoo.com
Last Updated: 12/10/2004

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I already emailed that one...  
I'm really not sure it is a network... it "feels" more like some morons learned a few tricks and repeat them.. kinda the way homo erectus spred the use of fire, I think.

I'm not getting a sense of sophisticatio, adaptability or polish from these guys.  In fact they really seem....like stupid ignorant criminals.

We are like the people in those folger's coffee ads.... "You took a date out for an expensive meal and are trying to show off..how'd you like the coffee?"  We were blinded by circumstance. thinking that:
 A. Amazon is pretty reliable
 . Linux people are generally honest (opensource n stuff..)and Z is a niche product..we are outta the line of fire.
 C) Amazon's "rating"system was meaningful and thet their long term at a glance stuff reflected some identifiable reality.

remember..jpettins was at least rated.

these guys are brand new.

Anyway, take away the assumptions..be looking for fraud and it is completely transparent.

We were working within those assumtions and looking for Zaurii, not fraud.....
But like the guy in the commercial saying the feezedried coffee was amazing, we tend to think the scammers are sharp because they scammed us.  Not so.

[ProfessorOhki]

Do not order from amaz_s25.  The following are with amaz_s16...

I asked it was available still (amazon showing 0).  He said it was, but I would have to go through "SquareTrade" ...  I was over zealous and gave him my shipping addy before I did much more research.  I looked more into "SquareTrade" and sent him this e-mail

>disregard.  I am no longer interested in this transaction.  I'm sorry, but as square
>trade is a mediation service and not an actually buyer protection program, I will
>have to decline unless you would care to conduct the transaction through paypal,
>ebay, or amazon.

I haven't heard a word from him since.  I also had conversations with facibine16 and read that ridiculious "western union is only accepted payment because it lowers risk of fraud" excuese.  After I turned them down, I heard nothing further...

Steer clear of any of the itterations of facibineXX or amaz_sXX.  They both are scammers from what I've seen.