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« Reply #15 on: January 19, 2005, 08:17:48 pm »
I have included this file in the japanese-dict package on the Cacko feed.

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« Reply #16 on: January 27, 2005, 09:04:54 am »
Something else that might be useful for those people using the Japanese support in Cacko is the Japanese version of the addressbook (so you can order by kana) and the Japanese postcode data ipk.

I can upload the ipk that came with my C760 CD if you want, but the one from the C860 or C3000 might be slightly more up to date.

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« Reply #17 on: January 27, 2005, 09:52:55 am »
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Something else that might be useful for those people using the Japanese support in Cacko is the Japanese version of the addressbook (so you can order by kana)[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=64186\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

Good idea!  I will create packages of original Japanese versions of addressbook and email app - they both use kana ordering (email does that when performing a lookup).

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« Reply #18 on: January 27, 2005, 12:31:59 pm »
Moving some observations/question to the Japanese thread as per maslovsky's suggestion ...

Having switched Language to Japanese, jisho, Hancomsheet and others work fine with Japanese input but Hancom Word refuses to accept kana via the keyboard, it only works using the inputmethods. Not a major problem for me but might bother some people.

It was mentioned that you can use Japanese input without changing language by installing the unicode font. Can anyone report that this works ?

Some strangeness when changing the date/time. Using the up/down arrow buttons on the LCD to change the hour/minute or pressing on OK will sometimes bring up one of the Japanese input methods (JpnSymPad).

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« Reply #19 on: January 28, 2005, 01:01:24 am »
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Moving some observations/question to the Japanese thread as per maslovsky's suggestion ...

Having switched Language to Japanese, jisho, Hancomsheet and others work fine with Japanese input but Hancom Word refuses to accept kana via the keyboard, it only works using the inputmethods. Not a major problem for me but might bother some people.

It was mentioned that you can use Japanese input without changing language by installing the unicode font. Can anyone report that this works ?

Some strangeness when changing the date/time. Using the up/down arrow buttons on the LCD to change the hour/minute or pressing on OK will sometimes bring up one of the Japanese input methods (JpnSymPad).

Cheers

Ian
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I'd noticed the Hancom Word problem but hadn't thought much of it. I use Zeditor for editing anything in Japanese anyway.

I'd also noticed the issue with the Time/Date dialog.  I haven't found anyplace else that does it, so I'm not too worried about it.

Just installing Unifont with *not* allow you to use Japanese input without changing the language locale. I'm in the process of writing a Japanese support howto for Cacko which will detail all the options.  I'm personally using Zstyle to change the default font which seems to work pretty well, but it doesn't install cleanly on Cacko. I'm going to look at repackaging it but I haven't got around to it yet.
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« Reply #20 on: January 28, 2005, 09:20:50 am »
I'm having problems with the current ipk for japanese-dict (1.02).
It won't install either through qinstall or ipkg at the command prompt.

Using qinstall I get the dreaded "ipkg said something went wrong sorry". With ipkg it gets to configuring japanese-dict ..... then a bunch of "bad header" errors show up. ipkg dies but it thinks japanese-dict is installed but only half of the files are there.

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« Reply #21 on: January 28, 2005, 09:48:40 am »
That is a huge package (17MB compressed).  You will need approximately 51MB of free space to perform the install (17MB package + 34MB uncompressed).  Do you have sufficient space in your /home/tmp filesystem?  What I usually do is symlink my /home/tmp to an SD card.  You could also change the path of tmpinst in your /etc/ipkg.conf:

dest tmpinst /home/tmp/ipkg/inst

This helps with large package installs.  I've uploaded the package again just in case the one on the server was corrupt, but ipkg should be able to detect if it was.

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« Reply #22 on: January 28, 2005, 08:44:00 pm »
I thought size was the problem first off, so I removed the original japanese-dict  and a bunch of other stuff till I had 60+Mb free, I also tried installing to CF and SC (both with over a 100mb free) using ipkg so that it installs to tmp on the SD/CF. The data.tar.gz file would throw errors even using just tar (both on the Z and my desktop)

I'll give the newly uploaded one a try and report back.

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« Reply #23 on: February 01, 2005, 01:55:34 pm »
I have a 750 so i dont have enough room on the internal for the japanese dictionary files so i cant seem to get any of the japanese to work, I am willing to try the symlink or changing the temp install on my sd card formatted to ext2 but i dont know how to without someone holding my hand, I am hoping to be able to get the translator to work too possibly on a 700 also.
so I am fluttering my eyes now hoping for some help, do i use a text editor or konsole or........... just sit here looking dumb

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« Reply #24 on: February 01, 2005, 08:53:26 pm »
Both of the options that you would use here are the same as on a Linux desktop.

For the symlink (symbolic link) use konsole, and the command to create the symbolic link to a tmp directory on your sd card:

ln -s /mnt/card/tmp /home/tmp

The first path is the source directory that you want to link to, and the second path is the name of the destination directory that will point to the source.  Make sure that you have the source directory on your sd card.


In order to change your /etc/ipkg.conf, use a text editor and change the path to one that's on your sd card.
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« Reply #25 on: February 01, 2005, 09:25:12 pm »
New version works fine, don't know if I just got a corrupted version or what, but it worked fine after I redownloaded it.

Had to install it manually to the sd card as it wouldn't work via iqinstall either from cacko feed or locally. Ended up installing it to main and moving it /mnt/card/QtPalmtop/dic manually and creating a symlink to /home/QtPalmtop/dic

qinstall would fail to install at the very end - I would get the "this package depends on others, plaease intall them" message, then the dreaded "ipkg says something went wrong, sorry" message and it would then delete all the files it had just installed - damm annoying

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« Reply #26 on: February 02, 2005, 12:29:13 am »
I got symlink to work i think but still cant get any of the dictionary files to install, any suggestions? I dont have enough room to install it onto the internal drive first i dont think

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« Reply #27 on: February 02, 2005, 09:58:46 am »
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I got symlink to work i think but still cant get any of the dictionary files to install, any suggestions? I dont have enough room to install it onto the internal drive first i dont think
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When you say you got the symlink to work do you mean that japanese-dict ipk was successfully installed?

If so then you probably need to edit /home/zaurus/Settings/sljisho.conf or make another symlink from where the files are installed to /home/QtPalmtop/dic

What I did was to create the directort /home/QtPalmtop/dic and cd to it. Then I ran the following command to create symlinks between the dictionary files on the SD card and the /home/QtPalmtop/dic

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ln -s /mnt/card/QtPalmtop/dic/* ./
If this is done as root while you are in the /home/QtPalmtop/dic directory you will get symlinks to all the dictionary files in /mnt/card/QtPalmtop/dic/ and not have to edit the sljisho.conf file.

If you haven't (or can't) installed the japanese-dict ipk, then you can unpack the ipk manually to your SD/CF card. The ipk is just a gzipped tarball, so the following command will unpack the ipk and give you 3 files (data.tar.gz, controlo.tar.gz and debian-bianry)
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tar xzf japanese-dict-x.xx.ipk - of course make sure you put the real name of the ipk.

You can then do the same thing for the data.tar.gz file to unpack all dictionary files and then move them where you want

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« Reply #28 on: February 02, 2005, 10:35:11 am »
I also had problems using the Package Installer to install the translator data files to my SD card. Didn't do any real investigations as to why, but possibly because the pathnames within data.tar start with "./opt" ?

Anyway, for the translator, you need to download the following files :

translator_1.0.0-1_arm.ipk
translator_ej-data-data_1.0.0-1_arm.ipk
translator_je-data-data_1.0.0-1_arm.ipk

I guess you'll be quite happy to install the translator program to Flash, in which case it will install fine using the Package Installer. Unless the data files have been fixed, you'll need to download them to the SD using wget before installing them.

Use the procedure mentioned by Stubear above to unpack the files. You should end up with 3 directories (I think) , eljisho and ejtable (for English->Japanese) and je (Ja->En). Move these directories to /mnt/card/QtPalmtop/translator. Then give the translator a try ...

Having said that, I've found that whilst the English to Japanese translation is working fine, when I try a Japanese to English conversion, the program just bombs. So maybe these instructions are incomplete.

I'm reliably informed that the English to Japanese translations aren't too hot anyway, so I may go look for a better translation program.

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« Reply #29 on: February 04, 2005, 08:37:27 am »
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I also had problems using the Package Installer to install the translator data files to my SD card. Didn't do any real investigations as to why, but possibly because the pathnames within data.tar start with "./opt" ?

Anyway, for the translator, you need to download the following files :

translator_1.0.0-1_arm.ipk
translator_ej-data-data_1.0.0-1_arm.ipk
translator_je-data-data_1.0.0-1_arm.ipk


Where did you find those files ? I was unable to find them.

Thanks