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Angstrom & OpenZaurus / What's The Point?

« on: June 17, 2006, 03:24:14 pm »

Hmm, perhaps I did not ask the right question.

I'm a full-time Linux user, so I understand a lot of what's going on.  I am, however, completely new to the Zaurus experience (less than a week!) so a lot of the terminology and distributions are totally alien to me.

So while GPE and Opie both have a windowing environment, they do not have the necessary core files or flash installer etc which the Zaurus requires.

I think I'm beginning to understand.. neither GPE nor Opie are packaged into a complete Zaurus experience.  Is this OZ's goal?
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OZ or PdaXRom are the Linux distros - think Debian v. Gentoo v. Slackware, etc.

GPE and Opie are the desktop environments - like KDE v. Gnome v. XFCE.

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Zaurus - pdaXrom / Psx Running On The Zaurus

« on: April 27, 2006, 06:58:04 pm »

I truly respect his decision to include my quick port of OpenTTD in OZ yet offer me no further help in finding a direction to where I could get OZ's toolchain/kernel-sources, even when it's for developing BVDD for OZ, the very topic that got him involved in my own thread. I appreciate the kindness I received when attempting to move over to OZ and bring my software with me.
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Try:

monotone --db=oe.db pull monotone.vanille.de  org.openembedded.dev
monotone --db=oe.db co --branch=org.openembedded.dev

And then, to update:
monotone --db=oe.db pull monotone.vanille.de
cd org.openembedded.dev
monotone update

All this information is available online.
To work with the repository, you'll need monotone (obviously) and bitbake, as well as the standard odds and ends a linux system normally comes with.
If you're on Windows, try Cygwin ( [a href=\"http://www.cygwin.com]http://www.cygwin.com[/url] ).

For help look to http://www.openembedded.org .

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X/Qt / Native Gcc Compiler For X/qt

« on: April 15, 2006, 03:27:17 pm »

That "-" after "su" tells it to change to the user's home directory and act in all ways as if you'd just logged in as that user (in this case root).  Why not just do a "su" and then navigate to the directory?

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Angstrom & OpenZaurus / 3.5.4.x Upgrades

« on: March 24, 2006, 09:55:57 pm »

For local files with gpe-mini-browser, try file:///path/to/your/file.html.

That's three slashes: two for the file:// (like ftp:// or any other protocol), and then one to begin the path to the file.  So, if you wanted to view the configuration of your local samba server in gpe-mini-browser (don't ask me why you'd want to do that), it'd be file:///etc/samba/smb.conf .

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Angstrom & OpenZaurus / Two Hentges (and Oz) Questions

« on: February 05, 2006, 03:08:55 pm »

I reflashed and things seem to be going much better. Apparently part of the problem was, in fact, aqpkg. The other piece of it was I was much more cautious in installing software. There are still several packages which I would like to have, like Zethereal, but I need to figure out what I have to do to install it right.

A couple of questions regarding packages:

1. I tried to install autoconf and automake, but both failed because of missing requirements...In this case, perl. Perl does not appear in the OZ feeds. What is the correct way to install perl on the Zaurus?

2. Coredump - Could you, in future releases, install bash? You install Konsole, which does not start with busybox's /bin/sh.

3. I'm trying to replace all of the functionality of busybox with the GNU apps (e.g. tar, sed, etc.). In my last post, I found sort in coreutils. However, when I tried to install coreutils, it attempted to replace /bin/[, so the installation fails and most bash functions afterward fail. I wound up having to reflash at this point, because everything including command line logic doesn't work. What is the best way to install coreutils?

Thanks,
--Storm
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Installing coreutils Works for Me ™ - but then again, I'm using 3.5.4-dev instead of 3.5.3.

About bash - have you tried simply installing bash and then linking /bin/sh to /bin/bash?  Bash is sh-compatible...

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General Discussion / I'm Confused,how To Install .tar.gz Files?

« on: November 05, 2005, 10:02:59 pm »

I'm a newbie here and using console is hard for me....
I have a lot games or soft which is not ipks,but .tar.gz......
can someone tell me the way to install them??
THX A LOT
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You're going to have a bit of trouble, here.  See, .tar.gz is generally the source of a program; that means you have to compile it yourself to run it.  Your best bet would be to tell someone who's a more experienced linux user which programs you'd like an ipackage of, and if they're nice they'll make the .ipk for you.

The other way to do it would be to learn how to compile a program.  In general (for 99% of programs), there are only a few easy steps:
1. Extract the source code.
$ tar xvzf [filename].tar.gz
 Explanation:  .tar.gz is a compressed "tarball" of the source.  The 'x' in the above line indicates "extract", the 'v' is "verbose" (it'll show you what's being extracted), the 'z' is "gzip compression" (.gz means it's gzipped), the 'f' means "file" (you give it a filename).

2. Configure the source.
$ ./configure
 Explanation:  This'll look through your system and use autoconf (a program) to set up the program to build correctly for you.

3. Make the source.
$ make
 Explanation:  This causes the source to be automatically compiled using a "makefile".  In case you hadn't noticed, I'm not trying to explain how everything works here, only what you need to do to build the program.

4. Install the resulting program.
# make install
 Explanation:  Notice that's a root prompt, above.  The "install" command to make causes it to look in the makefile for a way to install the program, and then do what it needs to get the program installed for you.

That's it.  However, this won't build a program for the Zaurus (unless you do this ON the Zaurus, in which case it WILL be what you want) unless you go and set up a "cross-compilation environment".  But, in all likelihood, that's more than you want to get yourself into at the moment.  You can try installing gcc on your zaurus and going through the above steps to get your program, or you can just have someone else do it for you.  Are you ready to learn something new?  Do you have the time?  It's up to you.

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Zaurus - pdaXrom / Hostap For Rc12 Anyone?

« on: October 24, 2005, 05:27:18 am »

I've been trying (unsuccesfully) to find the SOURCES, or at least headers, for the RC12 kernel for quite a while.  I have absolutely no clue how to get them, so I can't even build my own modules...

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Personal Java/Jeode/J2ME Personal Profile / Java.net (1.4 Spesifications) Incompatible

« on: October 15, 2005, 07:16:47 pm »

The correct sum for classpath over here is f0c7742357d3d50ee76934562cc185e0 .  Apparently the problem was in how you put the files together again - do you have a good version of tar?  Did you use the correct options?

If you can't get it to work, you could always just extract data.tar.gz from inside the archive and then copy the files to their correct locations.

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User Request for Applications / Gdisk For Zaurus?

« on: October 15, 2005, 10:00:26 am »

Don't you need the FUSE kernel module in order to use these?

I've been trying to compile FUSE 2.4, but I can't seem to find the right PdaXRom RC11 kernel sources or headers, so I can't get a version I can actually insert.

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Zaurus - pdaXrom / Sl-c1000/c3100 Rc12 Test

« on: October 12, 2005, 04:23:34 pm »

... But the kernel there, while appearing to be version 2.4.20, also produces code that gripes about an incorrect kernel version.

What's going on here?

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Zaurus - pdaXrom / Sl-c1000/c3100 Rc12 Test

« on: October 12, 2005, 04:11:48 pm »

Ah, never mind, I didn't realize that the full headers were in the compilation tree...

For those of you who are interested, you can just use --with-kernel=/opt/native/arm/3.4.4-xscale-softvfp/armv5tel-cacko-linux/ and it'll compile for the current kernel.  The headers are all there.

I'd still love to see a newer kernel so that I don't have to hack fuse to get it to build, but that'd take significant effort, I know.

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Zaurus - pdaXrom / Sl-c1000/c3100 Rc12 Test

« on: October 12, 2005, 02:02:16 pm »

Where can I get the RC12 kernel source?

I've been trying for a few hours to compile a new version of fuse (I know it says that it only supports >=2.4.21, which is one revision newer than the current kernel, but it could still work).  I compiled fuse 2.4 successfully against the stock Sharp kernel for the SL-C3100, but when I go to insert the module it fails, because it can't find the correct kernel version.

Could you please either:
(1) Include or make available fuse >= 2.2
(2) Make the source of the RC12 kernel available and I'll compile fuse against it
or (3) Upgrade PdaXRom to a newer kernel.  Obviously, this is the hardest but most rewarding option.

I really do want encfs support.  Speaking of which, cryptoloops don't appear to be available; losetup claims that -e is an unrecognized option.  Could you please add cryptoloop support in future versions of PdaXRom?

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Personal Java/Jeode/J2ME Personal Profile / Java.net (1.4 Spesifications) Incompatible

« on: October 12, 2005, 11:47:37 am »

You may have a corrupt download, or perhaps an old version of ipkg...  The ipk installed correctly on my PdaX RC12 SL-C3100 (it was built in a cross-compilation environment).  You can also see that it's all correct when you extract it, as you pointed out.

iwmmxt is a set of additional CPU instructions.  It's a bit of a move from RISC processing to CISC.  As with any additional instructionset, using these instructions is faster that having the equivalent basic assembly statements; this means that the program will run more quickly and consume less power.  Note that I did not use -march=iwmmxt, meaning that although the code will try to use the extensions where possible, it will still run on Zaurii without support for them.  It's always a good idea, especially on such a low-powered device, to take advantage of what's available to you.

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Personal Java/Jeode/J2ME Personal Profile / Java.net (1.4 Spesifications) Incompatible

« on: October 11, 2005, 05:34:46 pm »

I believe that at this point the best you'll be able to do is GNU Classpath.  Classpath 0.8 is mostly compatible with Java 1.4.  Mostly.  Not completely.  But currently there's nothing better for an ARM system.

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Zaurus - pdaXrom / Sl-c1000/c3100 Rc12 Test

« on: October 10, 2005, 02:01:49 pm »

By the way, you also forgot to make "su" setuid.  This is kind of important, as su obviously can't let you become root unless it has root privileges itself...

This is the cause of "using fallback setuid method" messages.