6000l Help Needed. Need To Do Two Things.

[Omicron]

Okay, These are newbie questions, but I am new to the 6000L.

I DID search and found posts on this, but none seem to work for me...

I have installed iirc and IRDA in various forms and versions, but I don't even see the icon for the progam on my 6000L, much less be able to configure it.

I have a Targus "Universal" IRDA keyboard and I want to hook it up to my 6000:L.  Like I said, I checked all the posts and tried things from the IRDA homepage, so please don't redirect me there.  All I am asking is for a direct link to what I need to install (as if from scratch...so all dependencies as well) to get the 6000L supported.  Someone who actually has the Targus model keyboard would be great, but any irda 6000L user's help would be greatly appreciated.

Like I said, I don't even see the program after install (and reboot), so I am as far away at making this work as I can get.  

Secondly, I want to install TELNET for 6000L...which is the best IPK to get Telnet on the 6000L (I would prefer a simple IPK install as opposed to a tarball).  

Once I get Telnet installed, could someone tell me where I would access a external drive connected via USB host (ie: which directory and how can I mount it for read write...for example a USB flash drive connected to the USB host port.).  

Thanks in advance.  I am just tired of pulling my hair out over these issues, especially since I am fairly certain the keyboard is supported by some version and telnet is definately out there.

Must be having one of those bad days.      

Please specify actual URLs whereever possible and as much detail as you have time for.

Thanks so much.

 

[nilch]

I have installed iirc and IRDA in various forms and versions, but I don't even see the icon for the progam on my 6000L, much less be able to configure it.

I have a Targus "Universal" IRDA keyboard and I want to hook it up to my 6000:L.  Like I said, I checked all the posts and tried things from the IRDA homepage, so please don't redirect me there.  All I am asking is for a direct link to what I need to install (as if from scratch...so all dependencies as well) to get the 6000L supported.  Someone who actually has the Targus model keyboard would be great, but any irda 6000L user's help would be greatly appreciated.

I think the IRK package compiled by Craig works for most other IRDA keyboards.
You could at least give it a try. I dont exactly know which is the IRDA home page you refer to, but this package "irk-zaurus-j_0.10.1_arm.ipk" D9dont remember where I got it from) worked just fine for me with my IRDA based keyboard (though now I switched to a USB keyboard).
You can check out his page for all about IRK including downloads
http://angela1.data-uncertain.co.uk/~zaurus/download.php

Secondly, I want to install TELNET for 6000L...which is the best IPK to get Telnet on the 6000L (I would prefer a simple IPK install as opposed to a tarball). 

Well I did the same searching for TELNET, but could find one (a simple IPK), so ultimately settle for a more secure solution - SSH
You could install the openssh package (available at Cacko feeds) and log into the zaurus from the desktop using Putty as the client.
Ok specific download URL  here at Externe.net feeds
Just install the SSH server, if you want to connect to the Z from the desktop, or client if otherwise.
Remember, SSH installation also does not add any icon anywhere - just go to command line and do
"sshd &" to start the SSHD daemon in the background - i.e. for the server.

Once I get Telnet installed, could someone tell me where I would access a external drive connected via USB host (ie: which directory and how can I mount it for read write...for example a USB flash drive connected to the USB host port.). 

as su, just do a mount command (from command line) as follows
mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/usbstorage
That should in most cases mount the external HDD (I tried with my Camera) onto the Zaurus (most cases refer to devices which don't need external power).

Hope this helps...

[soundwave106]

IRK works great with my Targus universal keyboard. Give it a try.

If you don't want to use SSH, Telnet is actually built into the Zaurus. There is no downloads needed, just edit your inetd.conf file to use the in.telnetd.

From this link:

To enable your Z's telnet server, edit /etc/inted.conf and add the following line ..

telnet stream tcp nowait root /usr/sbin/tcpd in.telnetd

bear in mind that everything you type and see in a telnet session is sent in the clear. This shouldn't be a problem if you're using the USB cable, but it's definitely a recipe for disaster over ethernet or on a wireless LAN.

As an alternative to telnet, you can use SSH. Download OpenSSH  install it on the Z and then generate a key file:

ssh-keygen -b 1024 -f/usr/localetc/ssh_host_key -N ''

(NB: two single quotes on the end there) add the following to /etc/inetd.conf:

ssh stream tcp nowait root /usr/sbin/tcpd /usr/local/bin/sshd -i

and restart inetd with:

/etc/rc.d/init.d/inet restart

[Omicron]

Thanks for all the help.

I will try that out.  I think I mis-wrote.  I just want to open a shell on my 6000L,  I often just call it a telnet window, although I am doing it from the Z, not remotely.

I did try IRK and when I do after the install, my 6000L shows an hourglass and then exits  the IPK package manager completely (rather than bringing me back to the install screen again.)  I have never seen an install do that.  Also, when I get (kicked) out of the install program, I see no GUI for the IRDA setup.

Is there a dependency I am missing ?

Thanks again.

[nilch]

Alllright - a command line window on the Zaurus itself.
You need QKonsole  QKonsole or the Opie Konsole or EmbeddedKonsole
http://www.killefiz.de/zaurus/showdetail.php?app=385

That will give you the terminal as its called. Also you will find the terminal package on the CD with the 6000 I think.

IRK installs fine and does restart the Qtopia totally (instead of just exiting the Package manager, since there more to IRK (it actually installs an input method). Thats normal behavious I believe (even HancomSheet install does that).

Now IRK does not install any icon on the Zaurus desktop, but in the input methods (Handwriting/Keyboard/Pickboard/Unicode), it will add another method for the IRK (a kangaroo shaped icon). Clicking on that opens an applet where you can set the parameters for the IRK - like which keyboard, On/OFF etc.

[Omicron]

Alllright - a command line window on the Zaurus itself.
You need QKonsole  QKonsole or the Opie Konsole or EmbeddedKonsole
http://www.killefiz.de/zaurus/showdetail.php?app=385

That will give you the terminal as its called. Also you will find the terminal package on the CD with the 6000 I think.

IRK installs fine and does restart the Qtopia totally (instead of just exiting the Package manager, since there more to IRK (it actually installs an input method). Thats normal behavious I believe (even HancomSheet install does that).

Now IRK does not install any icon on the Zaurus desktop, but in the input methods (Handwriting/Keyboard/Pickboard/Unicode), it will add another method for the IRK (a kangaroo shaped icon). Clicking on that opens an applet where you can set the parameters for the IRK - like which keyboard, On/OFF etc.
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Ahhh...  Now I understand.   THANKS !!!

[Omicron]

Okay, I got a Shell window, but I still have a problem.  I tried both EmbeddedKonsole and QKnosole, but they only come up in Portrait mode, and I need them to come up in landscape mode.  How do I do this?  Or is there another shell (terminal) that works  in landscape mode on 6000?

Second problem is that I cannot see anything (using dmesg) when I use a USB 2.0 Nomad Xtra Zen, which is also MSS (MSD?) compatible, but when I use a Neuros USB 1.1 (which is NOT Mass Storage Spec compatible) it works fine. I can mount and access the drive.

Why would USB 2.0 not work? Is there an extra step needed? Both of these devices have thier own Batteries, so power draw should not be an issue.... Also I can see both USB 1.1 and USB 2.0 Falsh drives, but I need alot more that a couple GB, and I want USB 2.0 device for adding stuff to it (even though the 6000 only reads at 1.1 speeds).

Anyone have any idea otr thoughts of what to try? I can post my dmesg output if anyone thinks it will help (I am not great at reading it).

[soundwave106]

Really? EmbeddedKonsole (what I use) works perfectly fine for me when the screen is rotated.

[nilch]

Omicron...
Thats because you have the default setting of "Show with Magnified screen" ticked on.

Just tick it off and all those konsoles will show correctlt in landscape or portrait.

[the_oak]

Does anybody know how to get a larger font than the fixed 12 in qkonsole? That font is kind of tiny in landscape (non-magnified) orientation.

[inode0]

Second problem is that I cannot see anything (using dmesg) when I use a USB 2.0 Nomad Xtra Zen, which is also MSS (MSD?) compatible, but when I use a Neuros USB 1.1 (which is NOT Mass Storage Spec compatible) it works fine. I can mount and access the drive.

Anyone have any idea otr thoughts of what to try? I can post my dmesg output if anyone thinks it will help (I am not great at reading it).
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I would be very interested in seeing the output.  I plugged my 30GB xtra in and wasn't really surprised, but was disappointed, that it wasn't recognized.  I need to go find out about this other option that does work.  Can you give me a pointer to information on using Neuros USB 1.1?

Thanks,
John

[the_oak]

Found larger fonts that work with qkonsole in vga landscape orientation. The site recommends installing to sd card.

http://only.mawhrin.net/~geometer/zaurus/fonts/index.html

I just used the top one.

[Omicron]

Second problem is that I cannot see anything (using dmesg) when I use a USB 2.0 Nomad Xtra Zen, which is also MSS (MSD?) compatible, but when I use a Neuros USB 1.1 (which is NOT Mass Storage Spec compatible) it works fine. I can mount and access the drive.

Anyone have any idea otr thoughts of what to try? I can post my dmesg output if anyone thinks it will help (I am not great at reading it).
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I would be very interested in seeing the output.  I plugged my 30GB xtra in and wasn't really surprised, but was disappointed, that it wasn't recognized.  I need to go find out about this other option that does work.  Can you give me a pointer to information on using Neuros USB 1.1?

Thanks,
John
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I don't think they sell them anymotre (only usb 2.0), but you get them 2nd hand on ebay from time to time...or post in Neuros forums..