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speculatrix

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« Reply #90 on: June 08, 2005, 05:55:04 pm »
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Anybody know why Sharp hasnt moved to a faster Xscale processor ?
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battery life, I'd guess. and this was a free upgrade for them.

I suspect too that it reduces support calls - people can wipe the internal hdd, but less likely to destroy the contents of flash!
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« Reply #91 on: June 08, 2005, 11:34:18 pm »
Bloody hell.

This is going to be an utter pain from a ROM point of view.

Technically, I suspect that the 1000 roms *will* work on the 3100. The motherboard on all three models will be 100% identical. They just populate the 3000 with the CF connector + supporting chips, and a 16mb flash chip. The 1000 doesn't get the CF hardware, but instead gets a 128mb flash chip in the same form factor as the 16mb one. The 3100 gets both.

With the flash rom portions being identical, chances are that the 3100 uses the exact same rom as the 1000, with an added mount point for the 4gb hard data drive. Simple as that. It'd take the notoriously lazy Sharp devs 15 minutes to cook up. Possibly less. The 3000 is a fairly complex unit to deal with in regards to mounting and storage. So much so that Sharp skimped out - the home directory is still mounted in that 16mb of flash on a 3000, causing no end of troubles.

This is going to drive development on the 1000/3100 roms, and basically kill the 3000.

Oh, and I guess there's no point in case-swapping my 3000 and 1000 anymore, either
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« Reply #92 on: June 09, 2005, 10:16:16 am »
It is that high price that is seriously pushing me to the 1000.  I will wait to see if the prices come down later.

My only regret would be all the unused space where the internal CF would go (more bulk than the 760).  As of right now, I don't really need to push the limits of storage on my 760 so the 1000 would do.  internal flash has room and SD has plenty of room.  4GB would be nice, but not needed.


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I for one will give it serious consideration since I currently don't own a Z. From a new user POV what's not to love other than the higher price? It has the extra storage of the C3k, plus the "more standard" flash configuration of the C1k, which hopefully means it'll be easier to get other ROM support.

Granted, it was a bit of a letdown to see the only real differences were the black case and the extra flash, but it's still a cool machine, right? Sure I'd love to see built-in wifi, et. al. but there's always next year (or month...) And besides, it's not like they called it the C4k to make it sound like it has lots of new features. It's the C3.1k.

Just my  $.02
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« Reply #93 on: June 09, 2005, 10:33:39 am »
My C3000 has not even arrived yet and already its being talked about as the next "dead" model.

I hope this doesn't turn out to be the next poodle in terms of development interest.
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« Reply #94 on: June 10, 2005, 04:31:28 am »
slight different topic. Is sharp going to develop any successor of 6K? or are they just ending that line and going to build clamshell Z only in the future?
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« Reply #95 on: June 10, 2005, 09:41:15 am »
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My C3000 has not even arrived yet and already its being talked about as the next "dead" model.

I hope this doesn't turn out to be the next poodle in terms of development interest.
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this is exactly what i am afraid of  

because I think that (IMHO) a c3100 is more identical to a c1000 than a c3000 in term of distros.

Question to Trisoft : Does a c3000 upgradable from 16 to 128mb flash ?
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speculatrix

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« Reply #96 on: June 10, 2005, 10:14:15 am »
Another Q to trisoft. Can you confirm if sharp ever have any intention of doing a clamshell with some form of wireless built-in, even if that means dropping the IR port (I have mused a lot about fitting a small BT module, removing IR in the process, into my 860)
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« Reply #97 on: June 10, 2005, 12:00:48 pm »
Whilst we're asking questions of TriSoft. When will the c3100 be available to buy from you guys?

Can you take a pre-order now?
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« Reply #98 on: June 10, 2005, 01:10:18 pm »
Hi everyone,

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Another Q to trisoft. Can you confirm if sharp ever have any intention of doing a clamshell with some form of wireless built-in ?
SHARP's intentions are many     Remember the SL-5500 based
phone-PDA with GSM capability that was shown at CeBIT two
years ago ? The SL-C750 with 3D display ?
What really hits the market and what's going into the archives
is always unclear.
But let's say, that the SL-C3100 won't be the last SL-C series Zaurus  

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When will the c3100 be available to buy from you guys?
Can you take a pre-order now?
We already ordered a first lot of SL-C3100 and hope to get them
directly after the sales start at June 24th in Japan.
You all know that we take our job serious, so the C3100 has to
pass the CE/FCC testing before we can sell the first unit. Also the
manual needs an upgrade for the C3100 model, the localisation
has to be done and it has to pass our own quality control.
We will announce it on our page in the next week as "coming soon",
but we won't add it into our shop before the testing is positively
finished.

If you want to reserve a unit, simply drop us an email to
zaurus(at)trisoft.de and we will contact you immediately when
we're able to sell them. At the moment we have no final pricing
for the C3100, this will be done in the next 10 days.

We think that sales in Europe will start in around the second
week of July.

///TRIsoft

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« Reply #99 on: June 10, 2005, 01:20:32 pm »
Kudos to TRISOFT for continuing to believe in the Zaurus line - you guys rock!
Cheers,

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