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glmason

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« on: May 20, 2005, 07:53:38 pm »
I was about to send my zaurus 5000D to the junk heap of early adoptions, (a bad habit that has cost me a healthy retirement fund). When I got a slim server and sqeezebox2 for my internet music I thought that the Zaurus would be a perfect remote control for the slim server.

But alas it had not been turned on for over two months and I had requisitioned the SD card that had the backup restore image on it... But I came accross the oz wedsite and thought cool. I'll build a flash card; and I did flashed successfully, but then relized that the Opera was not on it any more. Some reading has turned up thatOpera on the 3.5.3 Collie is problematic. But I got the instructions I need, I guess; I hate configuring linux stuff... but I'm up for the chalenge. I planed my strategy, going to get the telnet service running, ftp set up... but guess what inetd.cong is not in /etc... and ftping as root needs a password... now I stuck again and all I ever wanted was a Zaurus with a web browser.

Any tips and or suggetions for a num-nuts? New flash? Stick with opie? what?

Larry

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« Reply #1 on: May 20, 2005, 08:42:18 pm »
You should be able to install this version of Opera under OZ

https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?act=A...ype=post&id=532

You will need the compatibilty libs for it to work.

This post https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showt...indpost&p=70287 has instructions from someone who used that package.

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« Reply #2 on: May 21, 2005, 12:06:06 am »
Thanks John that helps...

Do you have any idea how to setup telnet? There is no inetd.conf in the /etc.

Is there a way to set the password on root?

Thanks Larry

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« Reply #3 on: May 21, 2005, 12:38:21 am »
I've never used telnet to connect to my Zaurus, only ssh.

You should have ssh installed by default, however you will need to change roots password before you can ssh into the zaurus.

passwd will allow you to change the password for the root user, however the FTP daemon may use a different password than the system password.

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« Reply #4 on: May 21, 2005, 07:36:04 am »
If you're talking about the ftp daemon which is part of Opie (used to sync PIM data) then the password is either 'rootme' or nothing (depends on the security settings).

I'd be more inclined to use sftp (you'll need to install openssh-sftp) or scp (which works straight away).


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« Reply #5 on: May 21, 2005, 10:02:06 am »
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https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?act=A...ype=post&id=532

You will need the compatibilty libs for it to work.

This post https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showt...indpost&p=70287 has instructions from someone who used that package.
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Compatibilty libs???? What is that and how do you get information about it?

I did follow the instructions of the link to Matt's description of what he did several times, the package installs all apprears in what seems the right place (though the software gets put in /mnt/card/packages/opt/[etc]... instead of /mnt/card/opt/[etc] as Matt referenced.

The icon appears on the desktop but noting happens at launch time... I feel like I'm missing something... what are the compatibility libs?

Thanks, Larry
« Last Edit: May 21, 2005, 10:12:07 am by glmason »

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« Reply #6 on: May 21, 2005, 01:23:50 pm »
The compatability libraries are found in the feed.  The package name is Sharp-compat-libs.  When you install the package you will get a purple and green icon on your settings tab. Click it, wait a few seconds, then choose list, select the applications tab from the list, then choose Opera, and click OK.  Now Opera will use the compat libraries instead of the Open Zaurus libraries.

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« Reply #7 on: May 21, 2005, 02:50:30 pm »
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The compatability libraries are found in the feed.  The package name is Sharp-compat-libs.  When you install the package you will get a purple and green icon on your settings tab. Click it, wait a few seconds, then choose list, select the applications tab from the list, then choose Opera, and click OK.  Now Opera will use the compat libraries instead of the Open Zaurus libraries.
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Well I guess I am as dumb as a post... but I can not find the Sharp-compat-libs any where, some pages I've used search on the Zaurususersgroup, openZaurus, OE forums and the ZaurusSoft sites... the closest I got was opera-compat but it was a dead link.

When one says "the Feed" which one is refered too? The link to Zaurus feed does not have a "Sharp-compat-libs"

Is it something set up on the Zaurua itself?

Larry
« Last Edit: May 21, 2005, 03:19:08 pm by glmason »

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« Reply #8 on: May 21, 2005, 03:19:54 pm »
You can install the compat libs one of two easy ways:

using ipkg from the command line, ipkg update && ipkg install -d sd sharp-compat-libs

using the package manager inside the settings tab of opie, update your list of feeds and then scroll down to sharp-compat libs, check the box and apply installing to SD.

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« Reply #9 on: May 21, 2005, 03:37:39 pm »
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When one says "the Feed" which one is refered too? The link to Zaurus feed does not have a "Sharp-compat-libs"

Is it something set up on the Zaurua itself?
The feeds are already set up in ipkg.conf for your package manager if you are installing from an internet connection.

If you don't have your Z connected to the internet the feeds are here:
http://www.openzaurus.org/official/unstable/3.5.3/feed/
and the upgrades feed here:
http://www.openzaurus.org/official/unstable/3.5.3/upgrades/

You can build a small feed on your CF-card or SD-card if you don't have a way to connect to internet with Z... do a search for the proper way to do this on the forum. There are many post explaining the procedure.

Greg

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« Reply #10 on: May 21, 2005, 03:50:46 pm »
Thank you, thank you, thank you, guys! Your patience is astounding and appriecated!!!

But... there is always a but isn't there...

I am connected to the internet and I did figure out with John's help how to get "the feed", and I tried the package manager way of going about the install... but I'm getting a linking error. This morning I changed the pass word for root so I could use SSH and putty... do I need to tell the ipkg-conf (?) about the new root password?

So now I see the green and purple icon, but I get a "could not find application" error...

I can connect with the ssh and try it the other way, but am curious as to how to change setting in the package manger if that is what is needed.

Thanks again, you guys rock.

Larry

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« Reply #11 on: May 21, 2005, 04:12:57 pm »
Your linking error is not password related. You will have to use ipkg-link where you have installed the app.

ipkg-link add (name of new app here)

or if you installed to your SD-card it would be:

ipkg-link mount /media/card

would find and link everything on card

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« Reply #12 on: May 21, 2005, 04:36:58 pm »
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Your linking error is not password related. You will have to use ipkg-link where you have installed the app.

ipkg-link add (name of new app here)

or if you installed to your SD-card it would be:

ipkg-link mount /media/card

would find and link everything on card

Greg
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Nope... tried it both ways, I still get the could not locate makecompat application...

when I run the link it says that it is adding it... opera still just doesn't work either...

I guess I can remove everything and start all over again! This is dis-hearting.

Was there any thing I should have done when I put the card in, the system seem to recognize it OK.

Larry

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« Reply #13 on: May 21, 2005, 04:42:43 pm »
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Was there any thing I should have done when I put the card in, the system seem to recognize it OK.
Do you have your SD-card formatted with ext2? This is necessary for symlinks.

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« Reply #14 on: May 21, 2005, 04:51:09 pm »
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Was there any thing I should have done when I put the card in, the system seem to recognize it OK.
Do you have your SD-card formatted with ext2? This is necessary for symlinks.
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Well since I have not idea what that is I guess not? How would I go about doing that?

Although, I do see the links in the directories? i.e. .opera in /home/root...

Larry
« Last Edit: May 21, 2005, 05:06:26 pm by glmason »