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« Reply #45 on: June 01, 2005, 09:07:26 pm »
This thing combined to google-style minimalistic and powerful webapps could be really, really killer (bluetooth GPS puck + google maps = yum). That screen looks awfully nice, too.
Nokia already makes a bluetooth keyboard, but of course that thing doesn't support the Bluetooth HID profile (someone wasn't thinking).
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« Reply #46 on: June 01, 2005, 10:23:55 pm »
I' thinking more and more about it
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« Reply #47 on: June 02, 2005, 05:16:59 am »
I'll definitly try to get hold of one. This will make a nice Wellenreiter device
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« Reply #48 on: June 02, 2005, 05:30:51 am »
I'm going to wait and read the early reviews, and wait till someone opens one up to see if they can be hacked to add more memory.

Knowing Nokia, they'll bring out an "i" version quite soon which fix the deficiencies of the first version. I am surprised they made such a device - the Simpad hasn't exactly been a roaring success across the whole of Europe, and the Nokia 770 isn't really different in functionality, just in size and spec?

Give it a little while and pick one up cheap on ebay. That's what I'll be doing if they turn out to be any good.
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« Reply #49 on: June 02, 2005, 05:52:35 am »
Posted about it on my blog, and I'm going to make a front page entry as well.

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It's basically a slower high-end Axim, with a better screen. Cheaper than the Axims and Co, too, though not intended to hit the shelves before Q3.
I'm really wondering what the intended use-case is; what the hell are you supposed to do with it? They sell it as a second PC replacement, intended for browsing and email, but the problem is that email just isn't very fun without a keyboard (forget about IM without totally integrated handwriting on a kickass digitizer), and brosing on a low-power device is painful: difficult to replicate the desktop browsing experience when you've got so little to play with.
The Nokia site shows 3 use cases actually, and it's not pretty: checking stock quotes and the TV guide (without a keyboard, and on the current TV stations' websites? Enjoy!), looking for recipes and the weather forecast before a picnic, which might work, and multimedia mail and internet radio in an airport lounge. Mail I've commented on above (you can't really reply, and there's no synchronizable mail/todo list to remind you to), IP radio might work, but it'll die in the plane.
I haven't looked at it in details, but it seems Nokia did a good job on a totally open OS+application stack: any compliant device can run the whole suite. Now, would someone please put it in a device that actually serves a purpose? More than one use would be perfect: hello dreamphone.
The last thing is desktop integration: the iPod is so popular because the desktop software's decent. If you intend on selling a multimedia device (the 770's got a DSP), you need good PC software to manage your digital library, and export to the gizmo (and not only tunes, email and bookmarks also come to mind). Nokia makes a notoriously bad PC suite for its current phones, which worries me.
In my opinion they lack a killer (web-) app. If they can provide google-style simplistic and uberpowerful web tools in addition to the usual client-side PocketPC apps like navigation (with a bluetooth GPS puck), this might work.
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« Reply #50 on: June 02, 2005, 10:37:02 am »
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The most interesting thing I saw was that it is shipping with a Flash 6 player.

http://www.nokia.com/nokia/0,,75023,00.html

It's compiled for linux ARM.  Very interesting...
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i dont know about you but i can view flash 6 under qonqueror on a linux pc.  not sure what you meant by that.  its easy to set up.

on a different note, they screwed up the design.  How am i suppose to make this an nes game system if there are no buttons for my thumb on the right side?  it would be more productive to have buttons on both sides of the device and especially for gaming.
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« Reply #51 on: June 03, 2005, 05:50:40 pm »
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The most interesting thing I saw was that it is shipping with a Flash 6 player.

http://www.nokia.com/nokia/0,,75023,00.html

It's compiled for linux ARM.  Very interesting...
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i dont know about you but i can view flash 6 under qonqueror on a linux pc.  not sure what you meant by that.  its easy to set up.

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You can use flash under linux on an x86 desktop, but you sure as heck can't view flash under linux on a Strongarm or XScale processor.
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« Reply #52 on: June 03, 2005, 06:00:41 pm »
you do not know the powah of the dsp......yes, yes... feeel the multimedia  
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« Reply #53 on: June 07, 2005, 03:50:05 pm »
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Also, if they did incorporate a sliding device, why the hell couldnt they fit in a keyboard of some sort under the sliding mechanism ? That would have been great. Instead the who slide-out area seems to be blank except for a lone small port. Is that some sort of future expandibility feature they have left in intentionally ?
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The silver part is a device cover. It's just a big hunk of plastic with a port-extender, you can remove it from the device, then turn it 180 degrees and slip it back on, and it will cover the screen (a bit like scientific calculators have now).
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« Reply #54 on: June 07, 2005, 04:41:23 pm »
I wonder why they went with the half sized mmc cards?
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« Reply #55 on: June 07, 2005, 06:08:55 pm »
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I wonder why they went with the half sized mmc cards?
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I guess the Half sized MMC slot would make it easier to design a smaller package.
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« Reply #56 on: June 07, 2005, 08:10:08 pm »
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I wonder why they went with the half sized mmc cards?
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I guess the Half sized MMC slot would make it easier to design a smaller package.
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maybe it consumes less power
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« Reply #57 on: June 07, 2005, 08:40:23 pm »
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I wonder why they went with the half sized mmc cards?
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The device itself is quite thin. And they've been biulding the readers into mobile phones for a while, so they know how to do that as well.
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« Reply #58 on: June 07, 2005, 08:57:12 pm »
Linux Journal recently conducted a brief interview with a Nokia representative about the 770. Doesn't say much new but gives a little insight into why they didn't add GSM/tri-band to the device and most likely won't for future variants:

http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/8351

A little slapdown from Nokia on commercial distros, stating they "need work" and calling them "middle men".  

"For a device such as the 770, one is concerned with the input and the output. The output is beautiful. We have the challenge to improve the input."

Umm, integrate a keyboard?
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« Reply #59 on: June 07, 2005, 09:37:31 pm »
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A little slapdown from Nokia on commercial distros, stating they "need work" and calling them "middle men".
He was referring to the embedded distro's, and he's right. If you need to contract Trolltech to do anything but driver development, they haven't done their job 100%.
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