Running Movies On Sl-5500

[Psion]

Does anyone have a good movie player that I could run movies off a CF card on the SL-5500?
If so, how do I need to install and run properly?

I've tried opieplayer and kino2, but they haven't ever run correctly.  They both crashed.
I've heard of mplayer running, but I understand you have to run with Qtopia shutdown.  Is this a viable option?  How do I shut Qtopia down?

Pardon my noobiness, but am learning my SL-5500 as I go.

Thanks

[Tom61]

The video player included with the Sharp rom works OK. The 5500 lacks the power to do much more than MPEG-1 QVGA decoding, so the Sharp player should be more than suffient.

[Cresho]

it is possible.

i have a webpage just for that but took it down for remodling.  if your in a hurry, email me and i llput it back up.

[freizugheit]

Psion,

First thing first, have you installed Kino successfully in your 5500.

If yes, do not use its GUI.  Just type "mplayer 123.mpg" the movie should be up.


Next, try using vlc mdeia player on your 5500.

[chrget]

Just type "mplayer 123.mpg" the movie should be up.

When did recent available mplayer builds start supporting the SA1110 again? AFAIK they still won't run unless you have a PXA processor.

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Now there's an idea

The 5500 lacks the power to do much more than MPEG-1 QVGA decoding

Hmm, must be hallucinating continuously, then.

so the Sharp player should be more than suffient.

Right. And 640k should be enough for anybody.

Psion (and others as well!), it would be nice to use the search function of the forum occasionally before asking a question (especially this one -- video on any model Z has been talked about at least a bazillion times ). It will most likely take you to quite a few interesting links that may answer quite a few of your questions already, like [a href=\"https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=13518]this one[/url] or possibly this one or maybe even this one (oh no, wait, that's the thread we're in already  )

Sorry if I'm a bit ticked off, but it's getting old to see the same questions pop up over and over again.

Best regards,
Chris.

[lardman]

When did recent available mplayer builds start supporting the SA1110 again? AFAIK they still won't run unless you have a PXA processor.

I never realised they'd stopped...

Surely it simply just depends on which video output device you select on the command line (and which one is set as the default, which might lead one to believe that it's not  working - just use the -vo switch).

That said, I may well be wrong, I've not tried playing any videos on my 5500 for a long while,


Si

[Psion]

My apologies, chrget.  I had tripped across one thread, but it didn't offer a solution.  I most humbly request your forgiveness.

Cresho: No rush, just something I've heard could possibly be done, but haven't been successful with kino or mplayer.

To others:  I appreciate the assistance and info.  I'll try and give mplayer another go, try vlc, or resign myself to Sharp.

Just type "mplayer 123.mpg" the movie should be up.

When did recent available mplayer builds start supporting the SA1110 again? AFAIK they still won't run unless you have a PXA processor.

Next, try using vlc mdeia player on your 5500.[div align=\"right\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

Now there's an idea

The 5500 lacks the power to do much more than MPEG-1 QVGA decoding

Hmm, must be hallucinating continuously, then.

so the Sharp player should be more than suffient.

Right. And 640k should be enough for anybody.

Psion (and others as well!), it would be nice to use the search function of the forum occasionally before asking a question (especially this one -- video on any model Z has been talked about at least a bazillion times ). It will most likely take you to quite a few interesting links that may answer quite a few of your questions already, like [a href=\"https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=13518]this one[/url] or possibly this one or maybe even this one (oh no, wait, that's the thread we're in already  )

Sorry if I'm a bit ticked off, but it's getting old to see the same questions pop up over and over again.

Best regards,
Chris.
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[chrget]

Surely it simply just depends on which video output device you select on the command line

Uhm, no. AFAIK the currently popular builds are using Intel's IPP library for PXA as well as other assembly code utilizing PXA instructions. Running it on a the StrongARM will simply result in a big fat Illegal Instruction trap.

Things are even worse now, since the changes from atty.jp made it back into the FFMPEG source tree, effectively breaking StrongARM compatibility for recent CVS versions of FFMPEG

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I'm afraid you are.

Let's face it: with the possible exception of OZ, the Z community has more or less given up on Collie and moved on -- which I personally find quite annoying.

Best regards,
Chris.

[lardman]

Uhm, no. AFAIK the currently popular builds are using Intel's IPP library for PXA as well as other assembly code utilizing PXA instructions. Running it on a the StrongARM will simply result in a big fat Illegal Instruction trap.

Things are even worse now, since the changes from atty.jp made it back into the FFMPEG source tree, effectively breaking StrongARM compatibility for recent CVS versions of FFMPEG

Well that's a bit of a pain; are they not ifdef'd? Surely it must be possible to build something which is non-pxa, and non-IPP (as my C750 doesn't use this either I don't think with its ATi innards)...?

Let's face it: with the possible exception of OZ, the Z community has more or less given up on Collie and moved on -- which I personally find quite annoying.

Yes, I think you'll find that the mplayer in the OZ feed will run on the 5500 (I've not tried it though, but otherwise it wouldn't be in the general feed), there are also some other versions in OE (one of which I was using on my C750) which I think are optimised for the PXA.

Intel IPP is for the 6k, 1k, 3k only? The optimised version I was using had the ability to play for the ATi chip in my C750 and whatever was needed for the 6k iirc.


Si

[chrget]

Well that's a bit of a pain; are they not ifdef'd?

Last I checked it wasn't. That's why I said they effectively broke it

Surely it must be possible to build something which is non-pxa, and non-IPP

Sure it's possible. There is a reason I'm doing my own VLC Media Player build

(as my C750 doesn't use this either I don't think with its ATi innards)...?

Use of Intel's IPP library is not restricted to a certain graphics hardware or processor type per se. There are several problems with using it, though:

-- it's binary only, not sitting well with an Open-Source approach

-- it's binary only, so you have to use the appropriate binary compatible version for your CPU

-- later releases are AFAIK no longer available for the StrongARM, thus the API used in the current MPlayer patches is partially unavailable in the last existing SA-1110 version.

And yes, the atty.jp version uses it. So there

Yes, I think you'll find that the mplayer in the OZ feed will run on the 5500

That's what I would expect, yes. But since I personally find OZ to be an unacceptable choice, that really is not an option (not that I would need it -- I'm quite happy as is, thank you very much).

Intel IPP is for the 6k, 1k, 3k only?

No, see above. The Intel Integrated Performance Primitives Library is simply a set of optimized functions, tuned to match your CPU. It provides a lot of Audio/Video/Signal Processing/Math functions, which Intel claims are the fastest possible for the platform in question (and it's likely that this is true).

AFAIK it's available for all CPU families currently shipped by Intel. Support for it seems to cease once shipping stops (hence the non-availability of current releases for the SA-1110).

Best regards,
Chris.

[the_oak]

If you don't object to pay software, I found tkcvideo to play smoother and support a few more formats than the built-in sharp video player. It was about $20.00 if I remember correctly. I particularly liked it because it would play avi movies of my grandson that I took with an Aiptek dv 3100+ camera. I only had to remove the CF card from the camera and put it in my 5500, and it just worked without any fiddling around.

Much of video playback quality depends on the encoding of the movie. To encode the best video to play on a zaurus, check out the howto link on zaurususergroup.org and look in the "General howto" section then the "video" section then look at "mpeg encoding" for windows, or "mencoder encoding" for linux.

[lardman]

(as my C750 doesn't use this either I don't think with its ATi innards)...?

Use of Intel's IPP library is not restricted to a certain graphics hardware or processor type per se. There are several problems with using it, though:

-- it's binary only, not sitting well with an Open-Source approach

-- it's binary only, so you have to use the appropriate binary compatible version for your CPU

Interesting, I wonder how much faster it actually is, I'll do a google.

I note from the configure switches passed when the c7x0 version of mplayer is built from OE that ipp is disabled.

And yes, the atty.jp version uses it. So there

,

I was merely asking if IPP was only for certain machines. In any case it would appear that it can still be disabled in the build - see above; not that this helps 5500 users though (going back to your earlier comment about the PXA-isms which are now in the code).

For the record the version of mplayer which is build by OE is:

For all devices (read works on the 5500): mplayer-1.0pre7
For c7x0: mplayer-atty-1.1.5

Cheers,


Si

[wenlez]

how about for Sl-5600?
i installed kino and opieplayer2, they both crashed.

my Sl5600 has OZ3.5.3 with OPIE installed

[lardman]

kino won't work with OZ until someone 'ports' it (not a big job ifaik).

Where did you get opieplayer2 from? What did it say on the command line after it crashed...?


Si

[Cresho]

check my link at the bottom of my sig....its up.....

when you get to my page, click on the filmreal icon and sl5500 version.  read it and if it's for you, try it.