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guylhem

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« on: November 15, 2005, 03:31:49 pm »
Fellow tosa-lovers, beware!
The following pictures may offend your eyes...

http://www.sharp-ssp.co.jp/products/kigyou...003/shiyou.html

I love my 6000W, but I find what they did to it so disgusting.

I really wonder what sharp is doing to its linux base with such moves :-/

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« Reply #1 on: November 15, 2005, 04:58:26 pm »
Yeah...  remeber the silver 6000w clone w. 128 ram that hitachi announced last year?  makes me even more sure the hitachi was a z in drag.

Would love to get my hands on one, though (hitiachi 128m z... not wince for my 6k)

Does this mean that sharp has more 6ks?
that sharp is well on the road to abandoning linux?
or is this some weird in-country marketing thing that only makes sense in japan?
« Last Edit: November 15, 2005, 05:13:06 pm by adf »
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« Reply #2 on: November 15, 2005, 05:37:17 pm »
If these sell well, it may at least mean that batteries won't be so hard to find.  
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« Reply #3 on: November 15, 2005, 06:17:02 pm »
Let's all cross fingers for new production batteries...  
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« Reply #4 on: November 15, 2005, 06:25:26 pm »
my opinion - the zaurus line won't last for long...

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« Reply #5 on: November 15, 2005, 10:22:09 pm »
Look at it this way, at least we know we can put linux on it!  
What's this button do??

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Distro changes almost weekly...

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Distro also changes almost weekly...  :)

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« Reply #6 on: November 15, 2005, 11:16:33 pm »
If it could dual boot, that wouldn't suck.  Windows Mobile has some useful applications.

Or better yet, VMware for ARM.

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« Reply #7 on: November 16, 2005, 12:04:38 am »
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my opinion - the zaurus line won't last for long...
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ugh.
then what? nokia? oqo? laptops? weird ipod keyboard hacks?

Surely some kind of reasonable reference design based on commonly available parts (and off the shelf batteries, my crusade of the season) could generate interest somewhere? maybe gamepark could be convinced to do a vga clamshell?

Vmware for arm? hmmmm
« Last Edit: November 16, 2005, 12:06:07 am by adf »
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« Reply #8 on: November 16, 2005, 02:34:46 am »
Really Nokia seems like the best bet.  They've already given more back to the open source community in 1 year or so than Sharp has in more than 3.  The 770 is a little big to use as a handheld, but it seems more like a test platform anyways.  Maybe a Nokia phone/pda based on Linux?
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« Reply #9 on: November 19, 2005, 08:15:00 pm »
There's also the Motorola Linux phones, though they're not fully open.

Best hope right now for linux on handhelds simular to Zaurus is PalmOS for Linux, pending Palmsource ever releases it.

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« Reply #10 on: November 28, 2005, 01:52:53 pm »
Personally, I don't care what OS a gadget comes pre-installed with, as long as it can be reflashed.  If Sharp can improve on the Zaurus hardware and grow their market by developing PocketPCs, I say it's good for all of us too.  Maybe it would even bring them back outside Japan.

All you "yuck yuck PocketPC" complainers should think about the big picture.  Wouldn't it be nice to be able to buy batteries again?
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« Reply #11 on: November 28, 2005, 02:55:48 pm »
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Personally, I don't care what OS a gadget comes pre-installed with, as long as it can be reflashed.  If Sharp can improve on the Zaurus hardware and grow their market by developing PocketPCs, I say it's good for all of us too.  Maybe it would even bring them back outside Japan.

All you "yuck yuck PocketPC" complainers should think about the big picture.  Wouldn't it be nice to be able to buy batteries again?
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Yeah.... but...

Think about what a pain it is to get linux on an axim (if it goes at all)  with NO linux support at all everything would have to be back engineered from scratch, possibly putting new roms years after hardware releases. Not a good situation.

I am hoping:
a). we get the off-the shelf battery packs for the Z's going
. sharp sticks with linux
c). nokia makes a clamshell 770 with a cf slot
d). something new comes along
e). the tiqit gets built

etc.

otherwise the future holds a small laptop and a big linux smartphone.
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**6000l  Tetsuized Sharprom, installed on internal flash only 1G sd, 2G cf

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« Reply #12 on: November 28, 2005, 03:46:56 pm »
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Think about what a pain it is to get linux on an axim (if it goes at all)  with NO linux support at all everything would have to be back engineered from scratch, possibly putting new roms years after hardware releases. Not a good situation.
otherwise the future holds a small laptop and a big linux smartphone.
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sadly, I agree. If linux on undocumented hardware was not very hard (i.e. not trivial but not difficult) then
 * linux on axims would be commonplace
 * the HTC universal would already be running linux

I am wondering why the Zaurus C3100 and 1000 models have become relatively cheap of late compared to when they were first released... I hope it's not because Sharp is dumping stock and discontinuing the models? If they are thinking of it, we can only hope they will do a version with mickeysoft mobile on it and at least preserve it.
Gemini 4G/Wi-Fi owner, formerly zaurus C3100 and 860 owner; also owner of an HTC Doubleshot, a Zaurus-like phone.

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« Reply #13 on: November 28, 2005, 04:30:58 pm »
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I am wondering why the Zaurus C3100 and 1000 models have become relatively cheap of late compared to when they were first released... I hope it's not because Sharp is dumping stock and discontinuing the models? If they are thinking of it, we can only hope they will do a version with mickeysoft mobile on it and at least preserve it.
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I was under the impression that the prices reflected an adjustment of the value of the yen, which had been high (at least vs. the USD) for the past few years.
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**6000l  Tetsuized Sharprom, installed on internal flash only 1G sd, 2G cf

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« Reply #14 on: November 29, 2005, 02:04:30 am »
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I was under the impression that the prices reflected an adjustment of the value of the yen, which had been high (at least vs. the USD) for the past few years.[div align=\"right\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]
If you look at the cost history in yen, that will eliminate any price changes due to the fluctuation of the USD to yen conversion rate.  The C1000 and C3100 have dropped about 33% from MSRP.

SL-C1000 [a href=\"http://www.kakaku.com/prdsearch/detaillowprice.asp?PrdKey=00303010243]price history[/url] MSRP: 49,800 street: 33,490
SL-C3100 price history MSRP: 79,800, street: 54,000
SL-6000W price history MSRP: 79,800, street: same  
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