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« on: April 27, 2006, 04:17:23 pm »
On the X/Qt site you can see this screenshot of running in rootless mode.

This might be a solution to running individual X apps in Qtopia, i.e. being able to switch just to the app, not to the whole X/Qt desktop.

Does anyone have any experience with this? How do you start an app in X/Qt in rootless mode?
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« Reply #1 on: April 27, 2006, 04:22:15 pm »
this sounds interesting....I like the idea!
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« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2006, 04:32:47 pm »
That would be a great idea.    
1. would occupy less disc/card space
2. would occupy less RAM
3. seems like apps would launch quicker and be snappier because of using less resources
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« Reply #3 on: April 28, 2006, 03:45:20 am »
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That would be a great idea.   
1. would occupy less disc/card space
2. would occupy less RAM
3. seems like apps would launch quicker and be snappier because of using less resources
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This might be a solution to running individual X apps in Qtopia, i.e. being able to switch just to the app, not to the whole X/Qt desktop.
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the next update of pdaXqtrom will have a rootless option, ie invoked via xlauncher -embed appname
the qtopia icons will have the -embed flag added to the launch scripts
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« Reply #4 on: April 28, 2006, 05:02:32 am »
yes! killer!
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« Reply #5 on: April 30, 2006, 01:09:44 pm »
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yes! killer!
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here's xmms in rootless mode

the new image will be ready soon. just compiling a few extra bits which takes a while on the Z
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« Reply #6 on: April 30, 2006, 06:59:05 pm »
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here's xmms in rootless mode

the new image will be ready soon. just compiling a few extra bits which takes a while on the Z
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What happens when you run two apps in rootless mode? Do they each have an X/Qt icon in the taskbar? Still would be the same icon, but nevertheless... You could switch between them and other Qt tasks conveniently...
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« Reply #7 on: April 30, 2006, 07:25:51 pm »
Please tell me that the internet exploder icon on the taskbar is a joke.

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« Reply #8 on: April 30, 2006, 10:20:57 pm »
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Please tell me that the internet exploder icon on the taskbar is a joke.

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« Reply #9 on: April 30, 2006, 10:51:40 pm »
how soon? /me is impatient...this is cool.
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« Reply #10 on: May 01, 2006, 11:36:07 am »
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how soon? /me is impatient...this is cool.
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very soon. i was almost done today, but then decided to recompile gtk2 so abiword would have nice window sizes that fit the screen and then I am also compiling some plugins for abiword too which hopefully will allow pdf and openoffice document support in abiword.
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« Reply #11 on: May 03, 2006, 08:15:59 am »
From the other post, I tried your new version...

It seems that only one app can be run in rootless mode. When I start a second one it says one is already running. Can this be gotten around?

Also running rootless firefox-embedded doesn't seem to work on my 3200, it just starts the X, you see the icon, and then exits. From a command prompt though it gives no error...

How can I debug the start to see what's failing?
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« Reply #12 on: May 03, 2006, 11:44:23 pm »
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From the other post, I tried your new version...

It seems that only one app can be run in rootless mode. When I start a second one it says one is already running. Can this be gotten around?

Also running rootless firefox-embedded doesn't seem to work on my 3200, it just starts the X, you see the icon, and then exits. From a command prompt though it gives no error...

How can I debug the start to see what's failing?
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xlauncher -debug -embed firefox-embedded
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« Reply #13 on: May 04, 2006, 02:51:13 am »
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OK will do. And what about the one-app limit in rootless? Is there no way to run more apps in rootless mode?
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« Reply #14 on: May 04, 2006, 03:00:09 am »
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OK will do. And what about the one-app limit in rootless? Is there no way to run more apps in rootless mode?
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well you could open a terminal and

export DISPLAY=:0.0
appname

note that this rootless mode is experimental and has many limitations. it is also only available in xqt server 0.8 it was removed in 0.9
i might have a look into it further and recompile xqt server but no time for it right now.
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