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« Reply #30 on: May 30, 2006, 08:13:49 am »
IMO another factor to consider when selecting a ROM is support. I've had very differnet experiences with OZ and pdaXrom in regards to getting support. I'm talking about the developers and the users. My experiences have not been the deciding factor but have contributed to my general feeling about each ROM.
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« Reply #31 on: May 30, 2006, 08:30:50 am »
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I agree with you wholeheatedly and was wondering how you are finding beta 4 and whether it is stable enough yet to actually use in a working environment with abiword, gnumeric etc

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It is quite stable, however some features still need tweaking ( I hope beta 5 will have those tweaks).

Features like:
- on / off does not work well (sometimes I have to do a full reset to switch the unit back on)
- the keymaps require some work to use the unit
- default fstab not very usable

However, all of these can be overcome today (relatively easily) if
- you use "suspend" to put the unit to sleep
- fix the keymap ( how-to's are available)
- redo fstab ( I have done this: it is not too difficult even for a newbie like myself)

So I overall like it!
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« Reply #32 on: May 30, 2006, 08:43:40 am »
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IMO another factor to consider when selecting a ROM is support. I've had very differnet experiences with OZ and pdaXrom in regards to getting support. I'm talking about the developers and the users. My experiences have not been the deciding factor but have contributed to my general feeling about each ROM.
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How would you characterise those experiences?
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« Reply #33 on: May 30, 2006, 12:15:34 pm »
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[which reminds me... anyone have a look at xqt speed on 2.6 oz/opie >gpe?  could be  interesting
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qvfb on an OZ X based image (gpe, e, xfce) running opie apps would be a lot easier and faster
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... and preferable, I think.  I hadn't realized it would work as well as you suggest.  Anyone got it going?  have those few really great qt/opie apps--and maybe opera on gpe (or any x11) would solve some otherwise sticky issues.    (so would geeting ssl and javascript going on the gpe browser)

If it is easily doable, shouldn't it be a "standard" option on X roms at some point?.
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« Reply #34 on: May 30, 2006, 12:27:01 pm »
Can I ask, how come GPE managed to resize everything perfectly to fit the screen and pdaXrom doesn't and hasn't for a really long time, is there a reason why this bug happens?
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« Reply #35 on: May 30, 2006, 12:41:56 pm »
Yes, I might add that the panel is only on the first desktop, and yet on the other ones, maximising windows still leaves space for the panel!  Either have the panel on all desktops, or maximise windows properly on desktops where there isn't a panel.
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« Reply #36 on: May 30, 2006, 01:52:38 pm »
window size on pdaxrom depends on the window manager you use.  presumably the same is true in OZ.  GPE (using matchbox, right?) does a nice job.  Fvwm and xfce do well on pdaXrom too.
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« Reply #37 on: May 30, 2006, 06:41:58 pm »
I was only commenting that it was odd that the bug persists in pdaXrom from version to version.
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« Reply #38 on: May 30, 2006, 09:09:00 pm »
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I was only commenting that it was odd that the bug persists in pdaXrom from version to version.
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yeah... the first real changes to the default wm seem to be in beta 4.  the reason I pointed out the wm issue is that a lot of pdax users change wm.  I think OZ  x11 users might tend to stay more w/ gpe or enlightenment
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« Reply #39 on: May 31, 2006, 02:35:26 am »
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I was only commenting that it was odd that the bug persists in pdaXrom from version to version.
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yeah... the first real changes to the default wm seem to be in beta 4.  the reason I pointed out the wm issue is that a lot of pdax users change wm.  I think OZ  x11 users might tend to stay more w/ gpe or enlightenment
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Could it be that more pdaXrom users change WM because the default one is buggy and not up to scratch, whereas the GPE people stay where they are cause the default window manager is well implemented?
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« Reply #40 on: May 31, 2006, 04:22:57 am »
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I was only commenting that it was odd that the bug persists in pdaXrom from version to version.
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yeah... the first real changes to the default wm seem to be in beta 4.  the reason I pointed out the wm issue is that a lot of pdax users change wm.  I think OZ  x11 users might tend to stay more w/ gpe or enlightenment
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Could it be that more pdaXrom users change WM because the default one is buggy and not up to scratch, whereas the GPE people stay where they are cause the default window manager is well implemented?
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I think it has more to do with feature sets, size, and speed actually.  The window sizing thing isn't really much of an issue except on the 6000.  the very few apps that pop up oversized windows are handled easily enough with the alt key.  Keep in mind that GPE uses matchbox wm...  pdaxrom can also use matchbox.  It really isn't that much of an issue.  If you really love gpe, then by all means use gpe and be happy. As to why OZ users don't seem to switch.... are there other wm's that are confiured to work well in OZ outta the box?  It might be lack of options as much as "goodness" of gpe.  I actually plan to give gpe a spin this week and see how things run on my 3100. I won't switch wms
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« Reply #41 on: May 31, 2006, 04:48:56 am »
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Could it be that more pdaXrom users change WM because the default one is buggy and not up to scratch, whereas the GPE people stay where they are cause the default window manager is well implemented?
I can't understand why matchbox/openbox was used as the default WM on pdaxrom. To put it mildly, it's crap compared to practically any of the other popular WMs. The only pro to it (if you can call it that) is that it looks the most PDAish - but given what pdaxrom is all about, maybe that's not such a good thing.

I use IceWM - it's smaller, faster. more stable and has more features than matchbox - what more could I ask for? BTW with icewm it does forces most windows to respect the screen size (the usual exceptions are dialog boxes which simply wouldn't fit within 640x480).

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« Reply #42 on: May 31, 2006, 11:44:53 am »
XFCE looks pretty impressive compared to Matchbox also
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« Reply #43 on: May 31, 2006, 11:55:30 am »
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XFCE looks pretty impressive compared to Matchbox also

That is why I use XFCE... I love pdaXrom but... hate matchbox....

Most think it is heavy and steals alot of needed resources... but I dont notice much of a difference...
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« Reply #44 on: May 31, 2006, 01:29:44 pm »
Yeah, I switched to icewm also!   I really feel like I am home with this WM.  
I recommend anyone who has matchbox to switch!
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