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« on: September 24, 2003, 09:38:43 am »
Hi all,

I received my Zaurus a couple of days ago, and I\'ve made reasonable progress with it - I have it on my network, accessible via Samba, etc., using TCP/IP over the USB port.

However - I no longer seem able to hotsync: communication seems to be taking place (i.e. when I initiate a sync both my PC and the Zaurus respond), but I get an error on the Zaurus saying \"communication aborted\".  This is in attempting to sync to a Windows 2000 machine with Intellisync.

Anyone have any ideas as to how I might fix this problem?  (btw, I\'m not running anything fancy.. just the stock rom that it came with, etc.)

Thanks in advance!

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« Reply #1 on: September 27, 2003, 12:33:55 am »
I\'m having a very similar problem...also with Win2k and Intellisync...

Just got the SL-5500, can\'t do anything

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I DID follow the faq btw...still no good.  Is getting sync over wireless easier than over USB?  This is driving me crazy because i was supposedly replacing my visor with this unit...the visor was easier.

anyway...thanks for listening

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« Reply #2 on: September 28, 2003, 12:02:39 pm »
replacing any pda with the Zaurus can be tricky... as long as your expectations are correctly set..  pim functionality and syncing is NOT as easy as with palm/ppc based pdas.  

I\'ve found syncing via tcp/ip with the cradle or wireless syncing is much more reliable.

I\'m currently using wireless syncing, there\'s a great how-to here.

The biggest problem I had with syncing my 5500 with my win2k laptop, was with win2k having troubles keeping the usb connection, and properly assigning the IP address every time the cradle was connected to the usb port.

with wireless syncing, I just have a pcmcia wifi card in the laptop, and a cf wifi card in my Z... works great every time.

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« Reply #3 on: September 28, 2003, 10:45:06 pm »
Wifi will become an option soon...buying the appropriate hardware...but i don\'t want to sync with a laptop...i want to sync with a desktop...will it work through an Access Point?  Also, it seems silly that syncing using the cradle would be such a difficult task...

every time i ask the question \"how can i install applications to the Z\", i get the answer \"buy...\" so it seems the Z is not a complete solution.  I must buy wifi, 32MB CF card, or some other peripheral in order to do with the Z what comes naturally on another PDA.

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« Reply #4 on: September 28, 2003, 11:19:02 pm »
you\'re right... not much with the Z is nearly as easy as with another pda.  the Z though isn\'t just any pda... it\'s more of a mini-mini-laptop.  I can\'t think of a single accessory I bought for my Z that hasn\'t improved it\'s functionality or that hasn\'t made it that much better.... especially the wifi card

yes, you can sync with a desktop... it\'s the same networking concepts... just as long as the two are on the same network, and you follow the instructions... it should be great!
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« Reply #5 on: September 29, 2003, 10:23:08 am »
Well, in my case the TCP/IP connection seems to be fine - I can keep an ssh connection up to the zaurus even while the sync fails..

I\'m aware that the Zaurus is a different beast from, say, a palmpilot, but I\'m fairly experienced with Linux and can get my hands dirty if necessary.. it\'s just a pain that the syncing seems to have failed without apparent reason - I don\'t currently have any WIFI stuff, and unfortunately I doubt the IT department where I work would be too keen on my hooking up a wireless connection, anyhow.  So.. any suggestions as to how to fix this issue would be very much appreciated!

Thanks!

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« Reply #6 on: September 29, 2003, 12:47:00 pm »
offroadgeek,
Thanks for your replies...at least i feel someone is listening
I was wondering though, I consider myself somewhat of an advanced newbie  and i\'ve followed all directions and howto\'s...still nothing seems to work.  i\'ve made it to the point in both linux and windows where i can ping the device, but the qtopia desktop does not recognize the connection.  both telnet and ftp refuse connection as well.  if i had a terminal on the Z i\'d be able to see if it could ping the desktop, but how to get terminal to the Z?

Is it possible that there is only 1-way communication happening? maybe something wrong with the cradle? (i don\'t want to believe something is wrong with the Z).
/me re-reads \"Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance\"

Thanks in advance,
Russell

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« Reply #7 on: September 30, 2003, 04:56:10 am »
I\'ve just write another topic whith this request...:
I\'ve this problem: I don\'t have any network device for my Zaurus SL-5600 (es. Eth. Card or Wireless Card), I\'ve USB dock station only.
I connected PDA on my PC with an routing software, and, for example, Opera Browser work good, but default mail client NO!
When I get a send & recive, it ask me a Dial-Up connection! Why it don\'t work with the usbd0 interface?
Do somebody know a way for this, or else an another mail client that can do this?

Thank You to all!

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« Reply #8 on: September 30, 2003, 10:41:52 am »
more and more i begin to get the distinct feeling that PPP is necessary for syncing using the USB cradle.

yesterday i got a bit further...found out that i could transfer files from a laptop, so decided to get the OZ rom and flashed it figuring that OZ might have better support for the cradle.  no...not much...although i did get NAT working through the cradle!  

i can see i\'m getting closer...i\'ll post if PPP does actually work...and maybe compile a howto using all the docs i\'ve found.  there is no documentation that explicitly states PPP is necessary to communicate with the sync software.

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« Reply #9 on: September 30, 2003, 05:00:35 pm »
Have you considered updating (or downgrading) usb drivers for 2000?  Newer versions of the drivers do not allow TCP/IP syncing w/o the older version of the driver being installed.  This actually prevented me sycning using OZ as OZ still uses TCP/IP for tranfers.  This gets even further confused as there is an option under the newer driver to set TCP/IP options, but will not be enabled w/o older versions of the drivers being installed.  If you have the newer version of the drivers on the CD provided w/ your Z, you are able to download older versions of the distributed CDs from www.zaurus.com/dev.

One other note, any type of error message (or lack there of) could be helpful.  Check dmesg to see what information you are provided when connecting the Z.  Also check your Event logs to see if there is any information when your Z is connected.
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« Reply #10 on: October 01, 2003, 11:02:22 am »
Taim,
Thanks...I\'ll definiately look into the old driver and then install the new.  In terms of error messages, on the PC side there are none...probably simply because the PC is waiting for an event that isn\'t happening...that little connection icon in the bottom right of the qtopia desktop stays red.

this is with both linux and windows.  if i start qtopia in linux with a console, there is a message something like \"attempting to connect with device...PPP...something\"  :oops:  i\'m not in front of the compter now, so i\'ll post the exact message later.

i never thought of trying dmesg on the Z!  that could prove useful.  It\'s another direction to travel, anyway!  

I should be getting my 802.11b access point some time this or next week, but i\'d still like to be able to communicate via the cradle so i can use it here at work.

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« Reply #11 on: October 01, 2003, 11:28:30 am »
Where is the HowTo on syncing via WiFi and TCP/IP.

I have the Linksys 802.11b card and the Intellisync software that came with the device.

I currently have a SL-5000.

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« Reply #12 on: October 01, 2003, 11:33:51 am »
sorry, I was not logged on. I am the previous guest

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« Reply #13 on: October 01, 2003, 03:19:30 pm »
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Where is the HowTo on syncing via WiFi and TCP/IP.

you can find it here.
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« Reply #14 on: October 07, 2003, 03:22:36 pm »
Well I finally did it! It was a combination of several techniques in several documents.  I really couldn\'t tell what the magic bullet was except that it had something to do with making sure you have the right version of intellisync or qtopia desktop installed.

i was even able to nat so that i could browse the web (this was done using network connection sharing in win2k).