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« Reply #30 on: February 24, 2007, 12:44:52 pm »
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out of sheer curiosity, fatty, did you try the usb mouse?

Stupid me   I never use a USB mouse with my Z.

It is much more responsive now.
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« Reply #31 on: February 24, 2007, 12:57:13 pm »
I hope no one minds if I post a little off topic, but since this thread already has off topic posts, here goes.
I have a program called EditCDG that only runs on windows.
Fatty, would you try it out for me on your windows 3.1 setup in dosbox?
This program was created in the year 2000 and I'm not sure it will run in 16bit windows.
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This program is used for "cleaning" up the graphics in karaoke *.cdg files, otherwise, one needs to use a Hex editor to do this, and that is really time consuming.
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« Reply #32 on: February 24, 2007, 12:58:23 pm »
...said fatty the GNOME of the dark dungeon G'Tek  

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Awww, Jon-J you posted a bit too quick there

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« Reply #33 on: February 24, 2007, 01:12:46 pm »
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I hope no one minds if I post a little off topic, but since this thread already has off topic posts, here goes.
I have a program called EditCDG that only runs on windows.
Fatty, would you try it out for me on your windows 3.1 setup in dosbox?
This program was created in the year 2000 and I'm not sure it will run in 16bit windows.
EDIT
This program is used for "cleaning" up karaoke files, otherwise, one needs to use a Hex editor to do this, and that is really time consuming.
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=155160\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

I tried to run setup with Win3.1 progman and DosBox crashed and complained

Exit to error: Could not set fullscreen video mode 640x960-16: No video mode large enough for 640x960.

Man, my Z has 640x480 only!
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« Reply #34 on: February 24, 2007, 01:40:22 pm »
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Is your nick a tribute to the Zaurus legend that is Menaie?

Its just a good description of myself  

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out of sheer curiosity, fatty, did you try the usb mouse?

Stupid me   I never use a USB mouse with my Z.

It is much more responsive now.
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=155158\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]
How does it run ?

I installed Win 3.11 and i've got the feeling it's too slow.
How about 3.1 ?

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« Reply #35 on: February 24, 2007, 02:12:45 pm »
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I hope no one minds if I post a little off topic, but since this thread already has off topic posts, here goes.
I have a program called EditCDG that only runs on windows.
Fatty, would you try it out for me on your windows 3.1 setup in dosbox?
This program was created in the year 2000 and I'm not sure it will run in 16bit windows.
EDIT
This program is used for "cleaning" up karaoke files, otherwise, one needs to use a Hex editor to do this, and that is really time consuming.
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=155160\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

I tried to run setup with Win3.1 progman and DosBox crashed and complained

Exit to error: Could not set fullscreen video mode 640x960-16: No video mode large enough for 640x960.

Man, my Z has 640x480 only!
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=155163\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]
Thanks Fatty, I didn't think it would run, but I was hoping. There is no Linux alternative to EditCDG.
Also, EditCDG opens maximised on my PC, I usually hit the second button on the right of the titlebar to bring it to a smaller size. (I cannot remember what that button is called)
EDIT:
I have windows 3.1
I wonder if CorelDraw 3 will install and run. CorelDraw 3 was made for Win 3.1
It's very doubtful..
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« Reply #36 on: February 24, 2007, 02:25:40 pm »
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How does it run ?
I installed Win 3.11 and i've got the feeling it's too slow.
How about 3.1 ?
Chero.
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=155168\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

I haven't yet installed any monster app like Office 6 and plain Win 3.1 appears to be pretty responsive @ 624MHz.

I also notice big improvement with CPU cycles set at 5000 instead of 15000.

BTW, do you have pointer issue (i.e. X pointer trailed by Windows pointer) ?
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« Reply #37 on: February 24, 2007, 02:45:21 pm »
I hope I'm not cluttering this thread with all my questions, but how do you install Win 3.1 from the original floppies onto your zaurus in dosbox?
I don't have a USB floppy drive, the only floppy drives that I have are installed in desktop PC's
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« Reply #38 on: February 24, 2007, 03:18:00 pm »
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How does it run ?
I installed Win 3.11 and i've got the feeling it's too slow.
How about 3.1 ?
Chero.
[div align=\"right\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

I haven't yet installed any monster app like Office 6 and plain Win 3.1 appears to be pretty responsive @ 624MHz.

I also notice big improvement with CPU cycles set at 5000 instead of 15000.

BTW, do you have pointer issue (i.e. X pointer trailed by Windows pointer) ?
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=155173\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]


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I hope I'm not cluttering this thread with all my questions, but how do you install Win 3.1 from the original floppies onto your zaurus in dosbox?
I don't have a USB floppy drive, the only floppy drives that I have are installed in desktop PC's
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=155176\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

you both seem to have missed [a href=\"https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=23267&view=findpost&p=155157]this post.[/url]

So, yes I have the mouse issue. Maybe it can be solved by changing "mouse accelaration" in windows.

About install : please read the linked post. You have to copy the files in one dir you can access in dosbox. I did that on a pc, then I copied the dir to my Zaurus.

(I also put "fullscreen=true" and "fullresolution=640x480" in dosbox.conf)

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« Reply #39 on: February 25, 2007, 03:27:17 am »
There is also a recent thread about some tricks to use dosbox under Sharp ROM. Just wonder to what extent they also apply here?

https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=16728

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« Reply #40 on: February 25, 2007, 04:02:46 am »
anyone can tell me how to run it outside X ?
I read it boost performance a bit, but I het an error when I try it.

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« Reply #41 on: February 25, 2007, 05:05:30 am »
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anyone can tell me how to run it outside X ?
I read it boost performance a bit, but I het an error when I try it.

Chero
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=155203\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

I just quit X and run dosbox from the shell. However, I don't notice much improvement.
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« Reply #42 on: February 25, 2007, 05:58:29 am »
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anyone can tell me how to run it outside X ?
I read it boost performance a bit, but I get an error when I try it.

Chero
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=155203\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

I just quit X and run dosbox from the shell. However, I don't notice much improvement.
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=155206\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

I get "Could not initialize video: No video mode large enough for 640x480"

removing "fulresolution" from dosbox.conf doesn't help.

BTW : in dosbox.conf:
create a [render] section, in this section add "frameskip=2"
use "cycles = 2500"
How does that feel ?

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« Reply #43 on: February 25, 2007, 02:38:32 pm »
Hi,

About windows 3.11 :
- cycles=2500
- frameskip=2
- fullscreen=true

Mouse-speed in windows : slowest

then both pointers seem to stay together (don't challenge it, you can get a gap between them), but it is possible to play a game of patience or hearts.

I'll try installing excell 5 later this week (if i still have my installation disks).

Anyone has better settings ?

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« Reply #44 on: February 25, 2007, 03:39:06 pm »
Just came across a very interesting project:

http://www.users.waitrose.com/~thunor/extinct/about.html

"Extinct is an x86/DOS emulator using libSDL that runs on Linux PCs and the Sharp Zaurus. The aim of the project is to interpret just enough x86 instructions and interrupt functions/services to be able to play certain early DOS games."

Not sure if this has been discussed in the forums before.

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