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« on: May 12, 2007, 05:17:35 am »
Hi,

it is two months since the last post in this forum so I wonder if there is still any Zaurus user out there who works with a Mac? Or Mac user who works with a Zaurus?

Or is your Zaurus collecting dust while you are waiting for the iPhone (to be opened to 3rd party applications)?

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« Reply #1 on: May 12, 2007, 01:47:37 pm »
I admit, most of the time my Zaurus is not doing much. But basically this is because I have not found a good/reliabke way to sync (I would not care if it is complicated or would involve e.g. the commandline). A pitty ZmacSync is being dropped. But probably it is a chicken and egg problem.  

While I was using a Linux laptop I synced almost daily and I used my Zaurus a lot more. A pitty

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Hi,

it is two months since the last post in this forum so I wonder if there is still any Zaurus user out there who works with a Mac? Or Mac user who works with a Zaurus?

Or is your Zaurus collecting dust while you are waiting for the iPhone (to be opened to 3rd party applications)?

-- hns

Note on ZMacSync: we have moved further development to idle mode since it looked no more reasonable given the recently low interest and the (wrong?) announcement that the Zaurus goes out of production.
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« Reply #2 on: May 12, 2007, 06:28:22 pm »
Mac and Z user here.  I haven't bothered to post here because I'm currently running pdaXii13 and pdaXrom on both of my Z which are not friendly with most of the mac goodies out there like ZMacSync.
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I think I'm coming down with what kahm's got!  I now have 3 Zaurii in house!  ;)
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« Reply #3 on: May 13, 2007, 03:35:49 am »
Mac and Zaurus and Linux user here!
I sync things through my web server mostly, trying to get everything working on standard tools like iCal, LDAP, IMAP etc...

Samba with wifi is how I connect to my zaurus and I can ssh in and even run remote X applications with pdaXrom, lovely to use zaurus apps on a large screen but still have the data on the zaurus.
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« Reply #4 on: May 13, 2007, 03:52:38 pm »
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Hi,
it is two months since the last post in this forum so I wonder if there is still any Zaurus user out there who works with a Mac? Or Mac user who works with a Zaurus?

Or is your Zaurus collecting dust while you are waiting for the iPhone (to be opened to 3rd party applications)?
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An iPhone is not a Zaurus. It does not run a spreadsheet, nor does it have a keyboard, etc. I certainly will not be buying one.

If Apple were to make a pocket-sized Mac - then I would buy onw tomorrow. But I do not need a phone.

And I am most disappointed that ZMacSync never got completed.

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« Reply #5 on: May 13, 2007, 10:27:59 pm »
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If Apple were to make a pocket-sized Mac - then I would buy onw tomorrow. But I do not need a phone.

Well, it depends on the price and specs.

I will rather wait for all dusts settled, like the case of iPod.

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« Reply #6 on: May 15, 2007, 04:45:53 pm »
I use a Mac and a Zaurus, but still maintain an interest in the newton and palm platforms, which are still much superior for Pim type activities. I was disappointed that no-one yet addressed handwriting or how to get data in without using a keyboard (else it is just a tiny laptop).

However, the Zaurus is amazing for its size as it runs a full web server (if a bit slow) so it is great on a network. Also nice for showing photos, and useful for me to learn linux but I must say that I have given up on these small devices really delivering something useful out of the box.

I agree that a UMPC mac system with additional input using rosetta via touch sensitive screen would be the best device, but it might be a long time coming, if ever.
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« Reply #7 on: May 22, 2007, 12:52:47 am »
mac and zaurus user.
I never use calendar on my mac, only on my Z, so no real need to sync...
However I have greatly appreciated the development of usb network driver.

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« Reply #8 on: May 22, 2007, 05:00:46 am »
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An iPhone is not a Zaurus. It does not run a spreadsheet, nor does it have a keyboard, etc. I certainly will not be buying one.

If Apple were to make a pocket-sized Mac - then I would buy onw tomorrow. But I do not need a phone.

And I am most disappointed that ZMacSync never got completed.
Thank you very much!

Your comment and the others (which is far more than I had expected) gives some reasons to think about continuing the work on ZMacSync or something similar.

Continuing ZMacSync as it is depends largely on whether Sharp will continue to produce the Zaurus. Working for a limited number of users without growth is usually not quite rewarding, especially if complexity for the final feature grows beyond any reasonable limits.

And will the iPhone be open? If not, maybe, scrapping any future ZMacSync-2.x releases and refocussing on something new, called "ZMacSync 3.0" which would work directly with QuantumSTEP on a Zaurus may fulfill the promises and expectations much better.

It would make development much simpler if both devices have a compatible calendar (CalendarStore.framework) and address book database (AddressBook.framework) and if both devices provide SyncServices.framework.

So, sort of Feature list (well, I am just thinking not promising anything) of ZMacSync-3.0:
* makes the Zaurus a "MacPDA" by using GNUstep/QuantumSTEP
* the ZMacSync application runs on both: Mac and Zaurus (even multiple machines)
* allows to sync everything between a "Master" and potentially several "Slave" devices
* uses ZeroConf to find each other

Just thinking loudly...

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« Reply #9 on: May 23, 2007, 05:08:01 am »
Slightly off topic, but...

I have a C860 which I am thinking of replacing by a C3200. Is there any easy way of getting all my contact / calendar / etc information of the C860, and onto the C3200, perhaps via my Mac, using ZMacSync?

Or any other sensible way?

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« Reply #10 on: May 23, 2007, 07:31:40 am »
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Slightly off topic, but...

I have a C860 which I am thinking of replacing by a C3200. Is there any easy way of getting all my contact / calendar / etc information of the C860, and onto the C3200, perhaps via my Mac, using ZMacSync?

Or any other sensible way?
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You can either copy the PIM database files - they are compatible.

Or use a rarely known feature of ZMacSync: Use the "Save As..." command to store a copy of all PIM entries on the C860 in an XML file on your Mac. Then, switch to the C3200 and do a "Load..." from the XML file saved on the Mac.

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« Reply #11 on: May 24, 2007, 02:47:51 pm »
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You can either copy the PIM database files - they are compatible.
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Yes, I guessed that, thanks - but can you give me a complete list of files which I need to transfer?

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« Reply #12 on: May 24, 2007, 03:29:14 pm »
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You can either copy the PIM database files - they are compatible.
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Yes, I guessed that, thanks - but can you give me a complete list of files which I need to transfer?
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All files in /home/zaurus/Applications/dtm

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« Reply #13 on: May 24, 2007, 09:01:34 pm »
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You can either copy the PIM database files - they are compatible.
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Yes, I guessed that, thanks - but can you give me a complete list of files which I need to transfer?
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All files in /home/zaurus/Applications/dtm

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To reply to the initial question, I have a SL5500. My original thought was to get an iPhone once my Collie dies (which won't be long with the way I use it). However, after giving more though to it, I am more likely to replace it with a clamshell model, which would still be cheaper than an iPhone (or the impending touch screen iPod for that matter). Also, there is something about the flexibility of adding and subtracting, and changing OSes that cannot be done on an iPhone or any of these types of devices.

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« Reply #14 on: May 25, 2007, 01:36:56 am »
iPhone:

- too big for a phone
- too crap for a pda
- too expensive for me
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