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« on: May 16, 2007, 09:40:36 pm »
Hi

I am a newbie on C3100. I believe I have installed KDEPIM 2.2.7 on it using the Package manage, however, I could not find the icon for it in the program menu.

How to add the icon  ?

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« Reply #1 on: May 16, 2007, 09:57:17 pm »
This is probably a dumb question, but what ROM are you using (pdaXrom, Cacko, etc.)?
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« Reply #2 on: May 16, 2007, 09:58:45 pm »
Thank you for our prompt reply. My Z is running pdaXrom beta 3
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« Reply #3 on: May 16, 2007, 10:12:01 pm »
Are you sure it isn't in any of the tabs?  I don't know much about it, but from what I can see, it is a set of IPKs and not just one.  See this:

 http://www.pi-sync.net/html/release_notes.html

And while you're waiting for more knowledgable responses, see if any of the stuff turned up by a search for the folloing is helpful:

kdepim icon zaurus   [you might also add pdaXrom to the search list]

Do you have a console or terminal installed?  If not, read why I think having a console can help with installing ipks at:

http://www.sdjf.esmartdesign.com/tutorial.html

And as a Linux/Zaurus newbie, I recommend looking at the first couple of links on the following newbie page:

http://www.sdjf.esmartdesign.com/new.html

I see Capn_Fish is helping you since I starting writing this, but I hope some of the above also helps!

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« Reply #4 on: May 16, 2007, 10:23:32 pm »
If you can figure out the terminal command, you can make your own "icon" (a.k.a. *.desktop file).

Look in /usr/share/applications for examples, and substitute your command to execute, the icon, the name, etc.

EDIT: If your icon doesn't show up after putting it in the .desktop file, try putting the full path to the icon in it.
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« Reply #5 on: May 16, 2007, 10:35:54 pm »
Capn_Fish, will it appear as just one icon instead of separate icons for each of the kdepim applications?

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« Reply #6 on: May 16, 2007, 10:43:58 pm »
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If you can figure out the terminal command, you can make your own "icon" (a.k.a. *.desktop file).

Look in /usr/share/applications for examples, and substitute your command to execute, the icon, the name, etc.

EDIT: If your icon doesn't show up after putting it in the .desktop file, try putting the full path to the icon in it.
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Thank you , Capn_Fish! However, I don't understand what is mean by

substitute your command to execute, the icon, the name, etc.

can you give me an example ?

Also , how to putting it in the .desktop file

Thank you again !
« Last Edit: May 16, 2007, 10:44:25 pm by wlaw »
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« Reply #7 on: May 17, 2007, 01:52:58 am »
Make sure it's actually installed with the following command from your console:

ipkg status | more

And look at the output to see if your kdepim is recognized, and what it is called.  I'm sorry I can't answer your other questions.  There oughta be a pdaXrom version that newbies can install without having to work so hard at it, IMNSHO.

The above command should show all installed packages, and the "| more" part makes it so that you only have to see one screenful at a time.  Just press the space bar (I think) to view the next screen, if there's more than one screen
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« Reply #8 on: May 17, 2007, 03:26:14 am »
Thank you sdif !

I get korganizer and kaddressbook with
status: install OK installed


So, what can I do next to make the icon appear and use this organizer ?

Thank you !
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« Reply #9 on: May 17, 2007, 03:59:27 am »
Hi,

You probably need to restart your X server. The icons will then appear under the 'Office' Tab, or menu option. They certainly do for me.

Cheers,

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« Reply #10 on: May 17, 2007, 04:11:39 am »
Yes, I have restarted many times, but there is no such icon under the office tab, what's wrong ?
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« Reply #11 on: May 17, 2007, 07:54:44 am »
In the directory /usr/share/applications, there are a bunch of files with the extension (stuff after the '.') "desktop." You need to go there and make a copy of one of the files. Open the copy with a text editor (like leafpad). You should see almost English stuff. Where it says to execute the program the desktop file is for, substitute kdepim (or whatever the command is to launch it). Do the same for the name. For the icon, find what kdepim's icon is in /usr/share/pixmaps/. Substitute /usr/share/pixmaps/xyz.png for the icon name that is currently there, where xyz.png is the correct icon. Save the file and rename it to kdepim.desktop, then restart X. It should be somewhere for you to click.

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« Reply #12 on: May 17, 2007, 10:55:34 am »
check out this thread, there's some useful info in it about packages having their .desktop being files installed elsewhere besides the "usual" place.

"Assign Icon To Executable. How?, some GUI executables don't install icons"
https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=23140
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« Reply #13 on: May 17, 2007, 11:41:18 am »
Jon_J, thank you.  That thread is a wealth of information which I will want to add to the IPK documentation I am writing, as soon as I can digest it all.

wlaw, if you don't understand that thread, don't feel bad.  It wasn't exactly written for a newbie.  I'm not sure I can follow it without a lot of intense study, either!

I just had a similar problem installing a different application the other day, and here's what I would do, based on what worked for me installing an IPK whose icon didn't appear.  First, get lists of all files on your Zaurus that start with the same names as those 2 files:

find / -name korganizer*; find / -name kaddressbook*

There are no guarantees, but the lists you get should show files ending with image extensions (png,jpg,gif,etc) and desktop.  That will tell you where the important files are.

I suggest copying and pasting the output and saving it so you can post it all here so we can help you better.

Next, I would study that ikg status output again, and pick the name of some application that you know has an icon that works.  Do the same kind of 'find' for that and that should show you the "correct" places to move the one image and desktop file for each app that is needed.  I know there may be more image files than just the one needed, so figuring out which one to move may be tricky.

On my Sharp ROM, the "correct" place for the files are in the following directories, using "zfax" as an example:

/home/QtPalmtop/apps/Applications/zfax.desktop
/home/QtPalmtop/pics/zfax.png

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« Reply #14 on: May 17, 2007, 11:57:19 am »
If the above doesn't work because there are too many image files, or some other reason, I strongly recommend installing "lsof", which I believe has a pdaXrom version somewhere.  You can read my page about "lsof" at http://www.sdjf.esmartdesign.com/ipks/lsof.html but need to get the pdaXrom version, wherever it is.

Meanwhile, if the icons don't appear, you should be able to start the kdepim apps from the command line, for korganizer, it would be:

bash-2.05# korganizer &

lsof can help with debugging this problem, so if things don't work, I'll post further instructions on how to use it to help with your icon problem.  I don't have time to explain it now.

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