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« Reply #30 on: October 22, 2007, 01:19:35 pm »
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Use angstrom, sound works there (modulo weirdos using 31999Hz sample rates, but that doesn't work anywhere) and we can add packages you are missing, *if* you tell us what you need, either on the mailinglist or on bugzilla. BTW, opie is unsupported in angstrom, since in practice is has been unmaintained for two years (the 1.2.3 releases basically updates some icons, big deal).
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  Sorry for the inexact terminology, I'll just refer to angstrom from now on.   I've got lots of homework to do now!  

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« Reply #31 on: October 22, 2007, 01:56:44 pm »
well, this is a little bit off topic, but you didn't talk about non working packages in Angstrom, like firefox2 ....   or perhaps it is working now ?
anyway i was angstrom addicted some days ago before trying debian titchy; so i really hope angstrom will get better and better !
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« Reply #32 on: October 22, 2007, 02:32:38 pm »
Quote from: koen
Quote from: Dromede
koen is right. i can't understand why are you using the titchy rootfs when you have a quite usable debian armel rootfs right here:
http://armel.applieddata.net/developers/li...root-fs.tar.bz2

The debian developers in the #oe irc channel asked that very same question

Well, I am very sure there will be yet another (and even greater) Debian shockwave to the Z users, if what was reported in this thread is no longer true...
https://www.oesf.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=24887  

So, a quick question: does it mean that Debian EABI can be installed in the same way as the curreny titchy, i.e. flashing Angstrom 2.6.xx kernel + untaring Debian EABI rootfs to the internal driver (/dev/hda1) ?  Thanks!
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« Reply #33 on: October 22, 2007, 02:41:19 pm »
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Quote from: koen
Quote from: Dromede
koen is right. i can't understand why are you using the titchy rootfs when you have a quite usable debian armel rootfs right here:
http://armel.applieddata.net/developers/li...root-fs.tar.bz2

The debian developers in the #oe irc channel asked that very same question

Well, I am very sure there will be yet another (and even greater) Debian shockwave to the Z users, if what was reported in this thread is no longer true...
https://www.oesf.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=24887  

So, a quick question: does it mean that Debian EABI can be installed in the same way as the curreny titchy, i.e. flashing Angstrom 2.6.xx kernel + untaring Debian EABI rootfs to the internal driver (/dev/hda1) ?  Thanks!

Yes. just untar the rootfs available here - -> http://armel.applieddata.net/developers/li...root-fs.tar.bz2 to where your kernel expects it to be and it will boot. the above mentioned rootfs needs to be tweaked a bit (nothing complicated really) for it to work on the Z and that's it. here's a relevant thread --> https://www.oesf.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=24589
« Last Edit: October 22, 2007, 02:42:22 pm by Dromede »
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« Reply #34 on: October 22, 2007, 02:41:40 pm »
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So, a quick question: does it mean that Debian EABI can be installed in the same way as the curreny titchy, i.e. flashing Angstrom 2.6.xx kernel + untaring Debian EABI rootfs to the internal driver (/dev/hda1) ?  Thanks!

that's exactly what i'll try right after backuping my (working) debian !

so let's open another thread for that !
« Last Edit: October 22, 2007, 02:43:05 pm by jpmatrix »
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« Reply #35 on: October 22, 2007, 02:49:11 pm »
note that armel is still WIP. So there could be some broken packages. as for the kernel, you can use the angstrom one or you can use the gentoo kernels. of course, you can always compile one yourself.
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« Reply #36 on: October 22, 2007, 02:53:18 pm »
So, Dromede, can you tell use which popular program packages are broken? I don't really mind not being able to use firefox (for me it's more for showing off  ), if some other decent browser more powerful than Dillo will do.
How about those "regular" office applications, like Abiword, Gnumeric, GIMP, and PIM stuff, etc?
Can I just use the native GCC toolchain in EABI to roll my own packages like in (OABI) Debian?
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« Reply #37 on: October 22, 2007, 02:55:05 pm »
Quote from: koen
Yes, you're mistaken, since you are using the OABI debian.

That's very true. Because I've googled OABI and EABI and there is not really much accessible information for non-hackers/developers.
Also I have yet to see any relevant information in the Angstrom website.  
So being mistaken has some reasons.
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« Reply #38 on: October 22, 2007, 03:02:42 pm »
Dromede said:
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Yes. just untar the rootfs available here - -> http://armel.applieddata.net/developers/li...root-fs.tar.bz2 to where your kernel expects it to be and it will boot. the above mentioned rootfs needs to be tweaked a bit (nothing complicated really) for it to work on the Z and that's it. here's a relevant thread --> https://www.oesf.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=24589
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  I'll let someone else find the problems with installing this! The word 'tweaks' always sounds alarm bells for me.  Not to mention worrying about the package situation, but perhaps that isn't too much of a problem using the on-board development tools?  

I shall watch with interest.
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« Reply #39 on: October 22, 2007, 03:10:13 pm »
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So, Dromede, can you tell use which popular program packages are broken? I don't really mind not being able to use firefox (for me it's more for showing off  ), if some other decent browser more powerful than Dillo will do.
How about those "regular" office applications, like Abiword, Gnumeric, GIMP, and PIM stuff, etc?
Can I just use the native GCC toolchain in EABI to roll my own packages like in (OABI) Debian?

i tried installing debian armel on my C1000 several times. last time i tried i had some problems with the xserver-xorg-video-fbdev package. the package configuration failed when it tried to generate the xorg.conf file. so i found a working xorg.conf file somewhere (googled it) and i got X to work. i installed xfce 4, abiword and synaptic first. all of them worked as expected. i really can't say anything about FF since i never tried it.i think the titchy one should work with armel but i'm not sure. i never really got into debian since it takes a lot of space, and it's quite slow since i had to place the rootfs on a sd card. and the rootfs got corrupted often.

armel is still a beta architecture... so treat it accordingly.

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« Reply #40 on: October 22, 2007, 03:30:00 pm »
well well,
after so much discussions tonight (it is quite hard to follow them all!), and as my current debian is being tar-ed, i don't know whether I should install latest angstrom (and stick to it) or try another eabi based ports listed here : http://wiki.debian.org/ArmEabiPort#head-7c...842684eeec18466

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« Reply #41 on: October 22, 2007, 03:36:04 pm »
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well well,
after so much discussions tonight (it is quite hard to follow them all!), and as my current debian is being tar-ed, i don't know whether I should install latest angstrom (and stick to it) or try another eabi based ports listed here : http://wiki.debian.org/ArmEabiPort#head-7c...842684eeec18466

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« Reply #42 on: October 22, 2007, 03:51:07 pm »
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Quote from: jpmatrix
well well,
after so much discussions tonight (it is quite hard to follow them all!), and as my current debian is being tar-ed, i don't know whether I should install latest angstrom (and stick to it) or try another eabi based ports listed here : http://wiki.debian.org/ArmEabiPort#head-7c...842684eeec18466

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Why not roll the big rock to the peak?
"One must imagine Sisyphus happy."  


...why not return to OpenBsd
......or stay with debian titchy, as only non working stuff was the sound, which i don't really need.....
well, well, well.....

tar-ing is still in progress  more time to think....
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« Reply #43 on: October 22, 2007, 03:51:38 pm »
Quote from: Dromede
i tried installing debian armel on my C1000 several times. last time i tried i had some problems with the xserver-xorg-video-fbdev package. the package configuration failed when it tried to generate the xorg.conf file. so i found a working xorg.conf file somewhere (googled it) and i got X to work. i installed xfce 4, abiword and synaptic first. all of them worked as expected. i really can't say anything about FF since i never tried it.i think the titchy one should work with armel but i'm not sure. i never really got into debian since it takes a lot of space, and it's quite slow since i had to place the rootfs on a sd card. and the rootfs got corrupted often.

armel is still a beta architecture... so treat it accordingly.

That and the fact that I don't need sound on my zaurus are the reasons I prefer titchy.
If we can get a few users together that are willing to share their findings/tweaks/... in a forum like this, I want to help proof to myself that I'm wrong.

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« Reply #44 on: October 25, 2007, 10:05:41 am »
Just to add to this thread.

The reason you will have problems with sound on an OABI rootfs with Angstrom kernel is because ALSA doesnt contain the right magic to allow both ABI to function at same time. The rest of the kernel does and this is why everything else works
fine.

I found this out about a year ago when I was working for Wolfson :-)
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