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« Reply #45 on: October 09, 2007, 03:33:14 pm »
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@Chero:

How do you set up Spectrum 24 card (using the symbol sp24 firmware)? It goes undetected in my setup. It finds Ambicom (using orinoco_cs), but fails to bind the driver.

Do you have orinoco_cs kernel module? It is missing in /lib/modules/2.6.21 on my 860, although orinoco.ko is there.

Can you set hardware system clock? I installed zaurus-hardware-support but when hwclock -w it reports:
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RTC_RD_TIME: Invalid argument
ioctl() to /dev/rtc to read the time failed.

Thanks.

I'll try to answer these this evening (left my C1000 at home).
I guess I haven't tried the spectrum on the C1000 yet (not sure, I'm sure there's only one I've tried but I can't remember which one).

Chero.

When I plug the spectrum in orinoco, spectrum_cs and hermes are loaded.
Then I can just set it up as eth1.

I have orinoco_cs, but it doesn't load for the spectrum.

hwclock -w gives no errors.

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« Reply #46 on: October 09, 2007, 03:34:42 pm »
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@Chero:
I think setting up Debian in C7x0 should be just the same as on C860, because they use the same Angstrom kernel and system.

I think they are exactly the same, but it would be nice to hear from someone who succeeded to put titchy on it ...
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« Reply #47 on: October 10, 2007, 02:17:40 pm »
I know we have gone over the hardware issue on SD cards several times, but I read titchy uses a "compatibility mode" for SD cards.  I'm going to pick up a new and bigger sd card today and wanted to know if it is worth it to upgrade to a sandisk ultra over the standard cards.


So, given the "compatibility mode" issue, would I get any benefit from the 2 gig cards marked as such:
1.) --Up to 133X (20MB/sec)--
2.) --10MB/second sequential read speed --

Also, for the same price I could get a 4 gig card that is marked --Class 4 (4MB/sec)--

Basically the question is; does the Z's hardware or titchy's software allow a higher rated card to be read any faster?  If now I would prefer to jump on the slower, but higher capacity card.

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« Reply #48 on: October 10, 2007, 02:51:49 pm »
I believe there is a hardware limitation for the CF. You may want to take a look at the simple benchmarking result of my Sandisk Extreme III vs. Hitachi microdrive: https://www.oesf.org/forum/index.php?act=fi...&pid=167593

Perhaps users with other internal CFs can give you some reference?

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« Reply #49 on: October 11, 2007, 02:19:18 pm »
After upgrading to lenny my SMC2642W wifi card stopped working.  I'll update if I find a solution.

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« Reply #50 on: October 11, 2007, 03:20:57 pm »
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After upgrading to lenny my SMC2642W wifi card stopped working.  I'll update if I find a solution.

what does lsmod tell you ?

is udev still running ?
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« Reply #51 on: October 11, 2007, 05:18:16 pm »
ps doesn't show a udev
lsmod has several modules, but none that seem to be wifi.  Should there be an hostap mod?

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After upgrading to lenny my SMC2642W wifi card stopped working.  I'll update if I find a solution.

what does lsmod tell you ?

is udev still running ?

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« Reply #52 on: October 11, 2007, 05:19:55 pm »
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@Chero:
How do you set up Spectrum 24 card (using the symbol sp24 firmware)? It goes undetected in my setup. It finds Ambicom (using orinoco_cs), but fails to bind the driver.
Do you have orinoco_cs kernel module? It is missing in /lib/modules/2.6.21 on my 860, although orinoco.ko is there.
Can you set hardware system clock? I installed zaurus-hardware-support but when hwclock -w it reports:
Quote
RTC_RD_TIME: Invalid argument
ioctl() to /dev/rtc to read the time failed.
Thanks.
I'll try to answer these this evening (left my C1000 at home).
I guess I haven't tried the spectrum on the C1000 yet (not sure, I'm sure there's only one I've tried but I can't remember which one).
Chero.
When I plug the spectrum in orinoco, spectrum_cs and hermes are loaded.
Then I can just set it up as eth1.
I have orinoco_cs, but it doesn't load for the spectrum.
hwclock -w gives no errors.
Chero.

Good news!!

The key to get the system clock and the network card working is installing the udev package.
Because the fresh install is Etch, the system can only take the Etch package. I attach it here for the newbies who may be looking for it.
 [ Invalid Attachment ]  which depends on this  [ Invalid Attachment ]
Make sure that it is -4 and not _4 in the fileanames before installing.
To install: dpkg -i /PATH/FILENAMES

After installing udev, reboot and now hwclock -w works!
For my Symbol Spectrum 24 wifi cf, it is set to eth0. Just plug and play!
Remember to add a line allow-hotplug eth0 above the "iface eth0" line in /etc/network/interfaces to enable hotplug & auto-connection.
Also remember to do /etc/init.d/networking restart to let the new setting take effect.

Now my C860 is apt-get dist-upgrading to Lenny ...  

[EDIT]
Now the swap partition also mounts upon booting!  (udev does the trick again)
« Last Edit: October 11, 2007, 06:08:25 pm by ZDevil »

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« Reply #53 on: October 11, 2007, 05:30:04 pm »
I just did the same thing exactly.  I didn't know what udev did.  Chero told me to make sure to reinstall it after I upgraded to lenny, but I didn't know I needed to do it before rebooting.


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@Chero:
How do you set up Spectrum 24 card (using the symbol sp24 firmware)? It goes undetected in my setup. It finds Ambicom (using orinoco_cs), but fails to bind the driver.
Do you have orinoco_cs kernel module? It is missing in /lib/modules/2.6.21 on my 860, although orinoco.ko is there.
Can you set hardware system clock? I installed zaurus-hardware-support but when hwclock -w it reports:
Quote
RTC_RD_TIME: Invalid argument
ioctl() to /dev/rtc to read the time failed.
Thanks.
I'll try to answer these this evening (left my C1000 at home).
I guess I haven't tried the spectrum on the C1000 yet (not sure, I'm sure there's only one I've tried but I can't remember which one).
Chero.
When I plug the spectrum in orinoco, spectrum_cs and hermes are loaded.
Then I can just set it up as eth1.
I have orinoco_cs, but it doesn't load for the spectrum.
hwclock -w gives no errors.
Chero.

Good news!!

The key to get the system clock and the network card working is installing the udev package.
Because the fresh install is Etch, the system can only take the Etch package. I attach it here for the newbies who may be looking for it.
 [ Invalid Attachment ]  which depends on this  [ Invalid Attachment ]
(Make sure the it is -4 and not _4 in the fileanames before installing)

After installing udev, reboot and now hwclock -w works!
For my Symbol Spectrum 24 wifi cf, it is set to eth0. Just plug and play!
Remember to add a line allow-hotplug eth0 above the "iface eth0" line in /etc/network/interfaces to enable hotplug & auto-connection.
Also remember to do /etc/init.d/networking restart to let the new setting take effect.

Now my C860 is apt-get dist-upgrading to Lenny ...  

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« Reply #54 on: October 11, 2007, 05:32:28 pm »
@cal, so is your wifi card working now?

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« Reply #55 on: October 11, 2007, 07:38:41 pm »
yeah, everything this is good now.   I can't seem to get python set up properly, but the titchy desktop works great.  I know its a long shot, but I'm apt-getting gnome right now.  Just because I can .  Everyone around here seems to prefer KDE, but as a linux user I've started with red hat moved to fedora, and no I use ubuntu.  All gnome desktops.  I hope it works.

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« Reply #56 on: October 11, 2007, 08:43:02 pm »
Does anyone else have a jittery cursor is X?

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« Reply #57 on: October 12, 2007, 02:05:54 am »
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I just did the same thing exactly.  I didn't know what udev did.  Chero told me to make sure to reinstall it after I upgraded to lenny, but I didn't know I needed to do it before rebooting.

Sorry  
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« Reply #58 on: October 12, 2007, 05:22:20 am »
Yet another note on running X using the "kurobox"  rootfs tarball:

The default hostname ( /etc/hostname ) is "kurobox".
If you change it, you also have to change "kurobox" to the new hostname at the end of the first line in /etc/hosts. Otherwise X and WM won't start due to display error.

Update on hwclock:
It seems this is still an issue running Debian off SD. Even though hwclock -w works, reboot will set the clock back to 1-1-1970.

I am going to put the bits in this thread together into one coherent howto (installation procedure for all C-series models) during the weekend.
« Last Edit: October 12, 2007, 05:22:47 am by ZDevil »

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« Reply #59 on: October 12, 2007, 05:55:25 am »
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I am going to put the bits in this thread together into one coherent howto (installation procedure for all C-series models) during the weekend.

Seems like a great idea.
And you're lucky, during the weekend the sun will rise and fall twice,  
but it will travell fast ...    

Thanks for putting all that energy into this,
Chero.
HP-95LX -> HP Jornada 680 -> SL-C860 -> SL-C3100 -> Fuji u810 -> SL-C1000 -> HTC uni -> SL-C860 -> SL-C760.
March 12 2009 : Back because the Zaurus is one of a kind.
SL-C760 : pdaXrom
Pandora pre-ordered -> received and tested : great device but not my cup of tea -> sold.