Recompiling Kernel

[zeroc87]

I'm gonna try to recompile the kernel 2.6.22. is there a method to recompile the kernel on my pc and then to copy in pda?because zaurus is too slow for recompile the kernel

[zeroc87]

I would like to use make-kpkg to create directly a kernel-image.deb and kernel-headers.deb to install with dpkg

[zeroc87]

i can use a virtual machine if is necessary to install debian arm and to recompile the kernel

[Meanie]

i can use a virtual machine if is necessary to install debian arm and to recompile the kernel

you are way out of your depth here. what you want to do is way too difficult for you to do. first learn the basics before you try to tackle the more difficult things, ie you need to learn how to crawl before attempting to run.

[raduga]

i can use a virtual machine if is necessary to install debian arm and to recompile the kernel

you are way out of your depth here. what you want to do is way too difficult for you to do. first learn the basics before you try to tackle the more difficult things, ie you need to learn how to crawl before attempting to run.

I suspect zeroc87 wouldn't be attempting this if s/he didn't feel they had already learned the "basics".
However...  building kernels for Zaurus (as for any exotic-flavored hardware) requires quite a firm and stable
understanding of how the device works, since mainline kernels and even the most heavily customized zaurus-specific
kernels require non-trivial amounts of attention and patience to navigate.

zeroc87:  if you think the Zaurus cpu is "too slow" to build its own kernel, please recognise that it will take quite considerably
more of your time to craft a working Zaurus kernel on your PC, than it would take a Zaurus to build a kernel.

Meditate on this brick if you would :
If you're not sure what it means, please feel free to ask.

[adf]

i can use a virtual machine if is necessary to install debian arm and to recompile the kernel

you are way out of your depth here. what you want to do is way too difficult for you to do. first learn the basics before you try to tackle the more difficult things, ie you need to learn how to crawl before attempting to run.

I suspect zeroc87 wouldn't be attempting this if s/he didn't feel they had already learned the "basics".
However...  building kernels for Zaurus (as for any exotic-flavored hardware) requires quite a firm and stable
understanding of how the device works, since mainline kernels and even the most heavily customized zaurus-specific
kernels require non-trivial amounts of attention and patience to navigate.

zeroc87:  if you think the Zaurus cpu is "too slow" to build its own kernel, please recognise that it will take quite considerably
more of your time to craft a working Zaurus kernel on your PC, than it would take a Zaurus to build a kernel.

Meditate on this brick if you would :
If you're not sure what it means, please feel free to ask.

This does raise a point, though--a VM that mimicked the Z (or any other embedded device) could be pretty handy--and a virtual cluster of virtual Z's compiling stuff (that probably would be hopeless) would be entertaining.  OTOH, the work required to do anything of the kind would probably be better spent on something more directly useful, as you suggest.

[zeroc87]

I know what I will do.but I'm not sure if the first time that I recompile kernel it works and ,because it takes many time.i would like to do it quickly.If i don't recompile kernel this debian rom is not usefully  because many thinks doesn't function for me.I would like to use debian and so I've to recompile the kernel.thanks raduga for your support

[zeroc87]

can I use a crosscompiler?and wich?because I never compiled for another arch , but I compiled many time in amd64

[tux]

can I use a crosscompiler?and wich?because I never compiled for another arch , but I compiled many time in amd64

  Hi, somewhere hereabouts someone posted a link to Scratchbox. It is a very capable cross-compiler environment for your box. Go to the website and have a look. I have installed it on my Ubuntu desktop. Follow the instructions on the site.

One of the nicest things about it is that you can set up all sorts of target machines. The Zaurus and the Nokia tablets are catered for.   As yet I have done very little with it. There is a lot to learn for me. But it does seem to be very capable and versatile. YMMV.

Good luck.

[zeroc87]

thanks tux.now i try to compile at least some modules and than all kernel

[ZDevil]

There is no need to bash an enthusiastic beginner (I for one). Everyone was a beginner once upon a time.

Then again there are a lot of easily accessible resources out there. RTFM is still the rule of the game, especially when it comes to compiling kernel.

[zeroc87]

I'm a newbie in zaurus but I did something with ubuntu.'m here to learn with your support.

[Chero]

There is no need to bash an enthusiastic beginner (I for one). Everyone was a beginner once upon a time.

Then again there are a lot of easily accessible resources out there. RTFM is still the rule of the game, especially when it comes to compiling kernel.

I second this, and BTW, there is still something called "Google".
Try "build zaurus kernel" and see where it leads you, there are pages out there with a very detailed description.

Good luck.
Chero.

[raduga]

I know what I will do.but I'm not sure if the first time that I recompile kernel it works and ,because it takes many time.i would like to do it quickly.If i don't recompile kernel this debian rom is not usefully  because many thinks doesn't function for me.I would like to use debian and so I've to recompile the kernel.thanks raduga for your support

What things are not functioning for you with the stock Debian kernel- that you hope to fix by recompiling?

Try to be as specific as possible.
The more feedback you give us, the more help we will be able to offer.

[ZDevil]

I know what I will do.but I'm not sure if the first time that I recompile kernel it works and ,because it takes many time.i would like to do it quickly.If i don't recompile kernel this debian rom is not usefully  because many thinks doesn't function for me.I would like to use debian and so I've to recompile the kernel.thanks raduga for your support

What are the many things that don't work?
If I were you I would first ensure a functioning setup by making sure there is no mistake made during installation and configuration, and then poke around here and there bit by bit, instead of doing a wholesale rebuilding, which may bring more frustration than hope.
Frankly I am very happy now about how native Debian runs on my Z, despite the poor multimedia output (but sound in games now kinda works) and mouse right click (which I don't really use it that often).