C1000 & Debian

[Chero]

Cant's seem to get X up and running with touch screen support.  Got the X to come up in Xfce4, but no control of the stylus.

Any attempt to use the Xfbdev kdrive results in exec failed to execute etc ... am I missing something?

probably a kernel problem - I'll try to attach the one that works for me.

[scottlfa]

and I was so happy with my kernel find ... guess I should learn some patients eh?  Thanks Chero

[scottlfa]

Been fiddling alot today and I found out some things, patients is a virtue.  After flashing the drive to a few other things I returned to this project with a new idea.  I would see if the kernel was the issue.  Tested and failled to get altboot working with Angstroms new 2.6.23 kernel so I went back to pokylinux's.

This time instead of flashing Angstrom then backing down to the 2.6.21 kernel from pokylinux, I just flashed pokylinux onto the machine.  Side note - pokylinux is very palm like as far as its gui is concerned.  A terminal, file manager and other basics of a pda are there.  File manager helps with moving things around abit.  Anyhows, installed altboot and went from there.

Prep the SD the same way as chero said etc ...

Rebooted into debian, depmod -a at the prompt and rebooted again.  Everything loaded fine.  Manually setup and launched the wifi card, download titchy full (apt-get install titchy), after I did an apt-get update.  Let everything install, and with a moment of hesitation ... typed startx and enter.

Drum roll ... it lauched the gui right off, all of it ... first the VERY welcome to see touch screen calibration screen and then onto the gui itself.  Nice.  Btw it resumes and suspends without any configuration at all -sweet-.

Now to tweak with it.

So the Openhand (pokylinux) kernel works perfectly.

For those of you who might try pokylinux, its load screen and such looks alot like angstroms.  Pokylinux does have full pim (pimilco apps), web browser, media (movie) player, notepad, filemanager, some cheap games, terminal, and some other extras.  Not bad for a basic gui.

[scottlfa]

Screenshots of Gnome on Debian Lenny :0

Working on sound atm.

[apink]

Has anyone tried/does anyone know about using a usb wireless dongle in debian on the Z?  Would it perhaps work out of the box or are there some special considerations because of the Zaurus hardware differences compared to normal pc usb interfaces?  I know that there were possibly as of march last year some considerations with power consumption maxing the Z out.  I just searched the big boxes and came across some "low power" dongles so maybe these would work power wise.  

I am wondering because I am thinking about giving up on my wireless cf (ambicom) that seems to work roughly 10% of the time anymore and just get a nice big cf flash card on which to put debian.  Then I would use the usb dongle for the few times that I connect to the internet with the z.

[VirtusRex]

Hey scottlfa,

I noticed you got debian/gnome working on your C1000. I’ve been thinking about trying to install debian on my C1000, but I wasn’t sure if it would be usage. Would you mind if I asked you a couple of questions, since you’ve got it going on a C1000.

What’s the speed like?
What kinds of apps can it run?
Can it run Firefox, and flash player as well?
Does it handle Gnumeric and Abiword?

Basically, is it worth changing to Debian OS?


Thanks,

VirtusRex

[Chero]

Hey scottlfa,

I noticed you got debian/gnome working on your C1000. I’ve been thinking about trying to install debian on my C1000, but I wasn’t sure if it would be usage. Would you mind if I asked you a couple of questions, since you’ve got it going on a C1000.

What’s the speed like?
What kinds of apps can it run?
Can it run Firefox, and flash player as well?
Does it handle Gnumeric and Abiword?

Basically, is it worth changing to Debian OS?


Thanks,

VirtusRex

https://www.oesf.org/forum/index.php?s=&...st&p=167519

also check posts 33 / 45 and 61 of the same thread.

(eabi is even faster ...)

Chero.

[scottlfa]

On eabi debian I have yet to get firefox or any web browser working ... broken packages.  Speed wise, not seeing a whole lot of difference between it and oabi titchy debian.  I have sound up and running but have yet to actually hear anything (wierd) so I am not sure atm ... debating returning to pdaxrom.

Should say though when I was running titchy I DID have firefox and other apps, FAR less broken packages.  Had Gnome Desktop on it, which seems to be broken in Eabi (armel).  Sound just is broken in titchy.

[jpmatrix]

On eabi debian I have yet to get firefox or any web browser working ... broken packages.  Speed wise, not seeing a whole lot of difference between it and oabi titchy debian.  I have sound up and running but have yet to actually hear anything (wierd) so I am not sure atm ... debating returning to pdaxrom.

Should say though when I was running titchy I DID have firefox and other apps, FAR less broken packages.  Had Gnome Desktop on it, which seems to be broken in Eabi (armel).  Sound just is broken in titchy.

yess
broken packages are a major drawback...
i was thinking exactly like you
i've written on debian-arm mailing list to talk about that but i haven't yet received any answer...
so what next? ....
perhaps returning to oabi and use the zaurus as fast as it can be with all packages working OR continuing under eabi and wait for the developpers OR try to compile some broken packages (huge task, zdevil is yet on it) ...
OR return to another working_and_supported distro like pdaxii13/xrom , angstrom, poky or openbsd........

PS: we should continue to talk about that in this thread:
https://www.oesf.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=25008

[dlj0]

On eabi debian I have yet to get firefox or any web browser working ... broken packages.  Speed wise, not seeing a whole lot of difference between it and oabi titchy debian.  I have sound up and running but have yet to actually hear anything (wierd) so I am not sure atm ... debating returning to pdaxrom.

Should say though when I was running titchy I DID have firefox and other apps, FAR less broken packages.  Had Gnome Desktop on it, which seems to be broken in Eabi (armel).  Sound just is broken in titchy.

I am in the middle of installing debian armel as well.  I don't have a functional X server yet, but have installed a lot of packages.  I can run iceweasel (AKA firefox) just fine on a remote display to my desktop machine.  

As far as gnome desktop goes, it may exist in debian-arm, but it will really slow you down.  I tried it, then dumped it in favor of xfce4,  Now I will try to set up icewm-experimental in armel.

[ZDevil]

perhaps returning to oabi and use the zaurus as fast as it can be with all packages working OR continuing under eabi and wait for the developpers OR try to compile some broken packages (huge task, zdevil is yet on it) ...
https://www.oesf.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=25008

No, I've already started. And you?  
I am quite optimistic about the EABI.

[jpmatrix]

On eabi debian I have yet to get firefox or any web browser working ... broken packages.  Speed wise, not seeing a whole lot of difference between it and oabi titchy debian.  I have sound up and running but have yet to actually hear anything (wierd) so I am not sure atm ... debating returning to pdaxrom.

Should say though when I was running titchy I DID have firefox and other apps, FAR less broken packages.  Had Gnome Desktop on it, which seems to be broken in Eabi (armel).  Sound just is broken in titchy.

I am in the middle of installing debian armel as well.  I don't have a functional X server yet, but have installed a lot of packages.  I can run iceweasel (AKA firefox) just fine on a remote display to my desktop machine.  

As far as gnome desktop goes, it may exist in debian-arm, but it will really slow you down.  I tried it, then dumped it in favor of xfce4,  Now I will try to set up icewm-experimental in armel.

!!!!!!!!!!
how the hell did you get iceweasel working on armel ? hmmm unless you're on oabi ?

[Chero]

On eabi debian I have yet to get firefox or any web browser working ... broken packages.  Speed wise, not seeing a whole lot of difference between it and oabi titchy debian.  I have sound up and running but have yet to actually hear anything (wierd) so I am not sure atm ... debating returning to pdaxrom.

Should say though when I was running titchy I DID have firefox and other apps, FAR less broken packages.  Had Gnome Desktop on it, which seems to be broken in Eabi (armel).  Sound just is broken in titchy.

I am in the middle of installing debian armel as well.  I don't have a functional X server yet, but have installed a lot of packages.  I can run iceweasel (AKA firefox) just fine on a remote display to my desktop machine.  

As far as gnome desktop goes, it may exist in debian-arm, but it will really slow you down.  I tried it, then dumped it in favor of xfce4,  Now I will try to set up icewm-experimental in armel.

!!!!!!!!!!
how the hell did you get iceweasel working on armel ? hmmm unless you're on oabi ?

apt-get update
apt-get upgrade
apt-get install iceweasel
apt-get install galeon
apt-get install dillo
apt-get install ....

They all worked for me.
Tip : do an apt-get update often cause repo-s (feeds) change often. Before I did update and upgrade they were all broken for me as well ...

edit : maybe tell what is the broken dependency, then we might know how to solve it ?
I don't remember whether I did a dist-upgrade ...

Chero.

[jpmatrix]

whow!!!!!!!
it seems gnuab contains updated & latest version of some broken packages while armel-debs.applieddata.net does not !!!!!
apt-get install iceweasel is in progress right now!!!!!!!!!!

thanks for that!
by the way can you post your sources.list ? mine seems not a standard one

[scottlfa]

When I try apt-get install iceweasel I get this;

my sources.list has this only
deb http://ftp.gnuab.org/debian sid main

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
  iceweasel: Depends: libnspr4-0d (>= 1.8.0.10) but it is not installable
             Depends: libnss3-0d (>= 3.11.5-1) but it is not going to be installed
E: Broken packages

Found a solution.

sources.list
deb http://ftp.gnuab.org/debian sid main
deb http://ftp.gnuab.org/debian unstable main
deb http://ftp.gnuab.org/debian unreleased main
deb http://ftp.gnuab.org/debian experimental main