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Zaurus 860 + Windows98SE... Driver issues, etc
« on: April 21, 2004, 10:55:15 am »
Who here has a SL-C860 and have been able to connect it ot a Win98SE machine.  What did oyu have to do to get it to work?

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« Reply #1 on: April 21, 2004, 12:10:26 pm »
I\'ve heard that some people have gotten it to work with Windows 98SE.  The USB connection in the C860 is also different than theh connection in the C7x0.
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« Reply #2 on: April 21, 2004, 12:39:12 pm »
I have usb-storage and tcp-ip over usb working from my C760 to W98, the tcp-ip over usb I just used the normal drivers from the CD, the usb-storage it used the drivers from my 7-in-1 usb card reader. So I think that any usb-storage driver should work

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« Reply #3 on: April 21, 2004, 01:33:26 pm »
I tried using the USB drivers of my \"ME-320 Series External USB Harddrive\", but Windows 98 wouldn\'t take it.  What are the details of your 7-in-1 USB Card Reader?  Are the drivers available online?  If not, could you e-mail me the drivers?

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« Reply #4 on: April 21, 2004, 06:40:19 pm »
Using Qtopia 1.21 and setting PC Link to CF card Win 98E recognises the SL-C860 and wants to install software for it. However, the drivers on the Zaurus disk that I have will not work (SL 3 drivers). The device will install but has \'problems\'. No further diagnostics available in W98 SE.

On an Apple Mac running OS 10.3 (Panther) this is plug and play although for some reason the device gets replicated ten times, i.e. the Mac sees the device as ten identical devices. This is definitely strange and makes me wonder whether Qtopia 1.21 presents the CF card to the USB channel in a non-standeard fashion.

The Mac does not support USB networks as such, does however support USB printer sharing, so there may be a possibility to tweak :-)

I would like to hear from somobedy who has solved the W98 SE issue - being in no mood to spend more money with Microsoft and thus not intending to \'upgrade\' to another useless opsys.

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« Reply #5 on: April 21, 2004, 07:57:01 pm »
Just a guess:

Mass storage is standard (at least on Win XP/2k and Linux, not sure about Mac - and therefore the interface is standard) so you may be able to get the drivers for a different mass-storage device to work for you.


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« Reply #6 on: April 21, 2004, 08:37:06 pm »
Tony,

You will need the usb-storage drivers (general) along with the CF and SD drivers. Not sure about your USB hard drive but it may not be using  the usb-storage driver or not giveng you the CF/SD driver (I think most usb hard drivers emulate scsi)

Talyinka,

Instead of letting Windows find the driver itself, copy the driver over to the hard disk and install it via hardware manager. deepnding on how the C860 cd is setup there may be some Japanese charaters in the path name which English Win98 can not read - anything before W2K sucks for reading double-byte characters and even W2k has probs at times.

The better option is to upgrade to a version of windows that works - or better yet install Linux

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« Reply #7 on: April 22, 2004, 06:15:46 am »
Hi Stu,

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Instead of letting Windows find the driver itself, copy the driver over to the hard disk and install it via hardware manager. deepnding on how the C860 cd is setup there may be some Japanese charaters in the path name which English Win98 can not read - anything before W2K sucks for reading double-byte characters and even W2k has probs at times.

Thanks for your advise - I\'ve already done all that. The driver is SL Series Ver3 (WDM), ver 3.44. The Win98SE device mgr gives an error code 10, indicating that the driver is installed all right but won\'t work. Are you aware of a driver upgrade? I must admit that I haven\'t rummaged through the registry yet to try to diagnose this problem. I wanted to hear from somobody first who have this combo running.  Anybody?

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The better option is to upgrade to a version of windows that works - or better yet install Linux

I wasn\'t aware that Microsoft had just published a new version of windows, and one that works at that... :-)

I run Solaris, Linus, UNIX, Mac OS and various brands of Windows here. This particular Zaurus unfortunately needs to work with W98SE :-(

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« Reply #8 on: April 22, 2004, 07:36:31 am »
That driver is the usb-over-ethernet driver (or at least it has the same name). You say that your Mac machine saw the Z as a storage device, are you sure that you have it set for usb-ethernet?

Do \'lsmod\' and look for either storage_fd or net_fd which are the storage and ethernet modules respectively.

I used my old Z (5500) successfully on WinME which is similar to Win98 so these WDM drivers ought to work.


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« Reply #9 on: April 22, 2004, 10:41:16 am »
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I tried using the USB drivers of my \"ME-320 Series External USB Harddrive\", but Windows 98 wouldn\'t take it.  What are the details of your 7-in-1 USB Card Reader?  Are the drivers available online?  
Just a guess:

I can\'t test this for you because I don\'t have win98SE but I believe this exe package will work if one of you  will check it out. If it doesn\'t work simply remove it.
USB 2.0 Driver Series 11 EXE Version ( just below center of page) here:
http://support.wdc.com/download/

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« Reply #10 on: April 22, 2004, 11:13:56 am »
Lardman, the Zaurus has 3 USB modes: USB Network TCPIP, USB Seriel, and USB Drive.  It sound like you\'re talking about the USB Network TCPIP, but I\'m talking about the USB Drive.
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« Reply #11 on: April 22, 2004, 01:05:02 pm »
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You say that your Mac machine saw the Z as a storage device, are you sure that you have it set for usb-ethernet?

I am attempting to install it as a storage device as a first step because I naively thought that would be easy enough.

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Do \'lsmod\' and look for either storage_fd or net_fd which are the storage and ethernet modules respectively.

Thanks. Yes storage_fd seems to be present and accounted for as expected.

I\'ve now also tried on another computer with entirely different hardware and the same software level. Same result - no go.

This works on the Mac, hence cable ok + Zaurus comms ok. Win98SE detects the Zaurus when it is plugged in -] low level comms Z-Win ok.

What type of device is the Zaurus listed as in your ME device mgr?

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« Reply #12 on: April 22, 2004, 01:08:15 pm »
Hmm, I don\'t use Me any more but will have a look on a Win98 computer tomorrow (need to get cable from home).


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