When gemian-buster.thinkglobally.org repository will be available to V3 ?

[cam1965]

Hi.
When  gemian-buster.thinkglobally.org  repository will be available to V3 ?
I still have v3 in my cosmo.
I prefer incoming calls ( working in v3 and not in v4 ) than camera ( working in v4 and not in v3 ).
Bluetooth as I know doesn't work in v3 and has lotof problems in v4.
So, is there a possibility to camera and bluetooth work in v3 ?
Also again when does the repository   gemian-buster.thinkglobally.org will be available to V3 upgrade ?
Thank you all.

[Adam Boardman]

We took the decision to rename the repository because any attempts to upgrade ended up in a pickle, so v3 is intentionally a dead end. Best to stick on v3 and wait for v5?, but for the crazy you could rename (s/buster/planet) the line in a few places in your apt sources/pinning files if you want to live off the edge of the map with the dragons.

I think the camera can only work in v4 though haven't tested it as the whole point of the move is to give the same level of HW support as with UBPorts. The breaking change is moving from droid-hal-cosmopda-bin built from a subset of the private sources and installed without lxc containment and so not upgradable neither to itself nor to lxc-android that is built from LineageOS and due to being inside a .img file is upgradable in the future if needed. We did try to put droid-hal back to one from a backup but turned out to be an older one than that in v3 so we just gave up and so we got the one time forced upgrade. As a sweeter for that forced re-install I did the installer work where you can pick the keyboard/timezone at installation.

I do apologise for not testing calls-in, I did test sms-in/out and calls-out, I just assumed if sms-in worked then as calls-out worked so would calls-in. I did offer pre-release testing to four other people though apparently none of them thought to try incoming calls either. I've generally considered the lack of sleep performance would preclude the use as a telephone also the fact that a pocket crash reboot* will drop you out of any chance of calls/sms working until you've logged in again. Its on the list to investigate along with the BT having only ever worked on first boot after fresh v4 install and never again.

Bugs: https://github.com/gemian/gemian/issues
Work prioritisation: https://gemian.thinkglobally.org/sponsor-hub/ (no actual need to be a sponsor despite the name - clearly need more testers)
Chip in: https://github.com/gemian/gemian/wiki/FundingOptions

* I think I was getting about one a month on Gemini when I actually left the house - zero when its sat on the desk all the time in these C19 times.

[cam1965]

We took the decision to rename the repository because any attempts to upgrade ended up in a pickle, so v3 is intentionally a dead end. Best to stick on v3 and wait for v5?, but for the crazy you could rename (s/buster/planet) the line in a few places in your apt sources/pinning files if you want to live off the edge of the map with the dragons.

I think the camera can only work in v4 though haven't tested it as the whole point of the move is to give the same level of HW support as with UBPorts. The breaking change is moving from droid-hal-cosmopda-bin built from a subset of the private sources and installed without lxc containment and so not upgradable neither to itself nor to lxc-android that is built from LineageOS and due to being inside a .img file is upgradable in the future if needed. We did try to put droid-hal back to one from a backup but turned out to be an older one than that in v3 so we just gave up and so we got the one time forced upgrade. As a sweeter for that forced re-install I did the installer work where you can pick the keyboard/timezone at installation.

I do apologise for not testing calls-in, I did test sms-in/out and calls-out, I just assumed if sms-in worked then as calls-out worked so would calls-in. I did offer pre-release testing to four other people though apparently none of them thought to try incoming calls either. I've generally considered the lack of sleep performance would preclude the use as a telephone also the fact that a pocket crash reboot* will drop you out of any chance of calls/sms working until you've logged in again. Its on the list to investigate along with the BT having only ever worked on first boot after fresh v4 install and never again.

Bugs: https://github.com/gemian/gemian/issues
Work prioritisation: https://gemian.thinkglobally.org/sponsor-hub/ (no actual need to be a sponsor despite the name - clearly need more testers)
Chip in: https://github.com/gemian/gemian/wiki/FundingOptions

* I think I was getting about one a month on Gemini when I actually left the house - zero when its sat on the desk all the time in these C19 times.

Hi Adam.
Thank you so much for the explanation.

[Adam Boardman]

Just to clarify it was one of the sponsors-hub 'pre-release' tick-box testers who noticed the calls problem though not till the day after I'd released to planet.

It occurred to me overnight that I might have given the wrong impression of their testing skills. Possibly more to do with my only emailing at the start and end of what ended up being a 17 day preview window, I think the peak was four releases on one of those days as I worked through installer bugs.

[cam1965]

Just to clarify it was one of the sponsors-hub 'pre-release' tick-box testers who noticed the calls problem though not till the day after I'd released to planet.

It occurred to me overnight that I might have given the wrong impression of their testing skills. Possibly more to do with my only emailing at the start and end of what ended up being a 17 day preview window, I think the peak was four releases on one of those days as I worked through installer bugs.

Hi Adam.
Thank you.
I have installed v4 for testing purposes.
Bluetooth works for sending files, not receiving.
SMS works for sending messages, not receiving.
Phone works for outgoing calls , not receiving.
Camera works.
ALT key is not working. I have posted a question here about this.
I have installed cmst and conman ( it freezes sometimes ) . sim data is working.

For now that is it.
Thank you again.

[Adam Boardman]

Just to say cmst-connman is outside of my scope and so your off playing with dragons again.

I fixed up cmst/connman back on the Gemini, to only find that on the Cosmo we had apparently moved to nm, so now the plan is to fix that up, going forwards I don't want to have to fiddle with every different option, its a one time move to better fit with the plasma desktop hence updating of kscreenlocker shortcuts to work with nm. Given that my test sim has started showing random small amounts of data/month and I've never installed cmst, nm must be randomly attaching when I turn off wifi, even though I'm generally also turning off cellular at the same time.

Bug #9 is the one to follow if you want to track the progress of getting nm up to scratch: https://github.com/gemian/gemian/issues/9

[cam1965]

Just to say cmst-connman is outside of my scope and so your off playing with dragons again.

I fixed up cmst/connman back on the Gemini, to only find that on the Cosmo we had apparently moved to nm, so now the plan is to fix that up, going forwards I don't want to have to fiddle with every different option, its a one time move to better fit with the plasma desktop hence updating of kscreenlocker shortcuts to work with nm. Given that my test sim has started showing random small amounts of data/month and I've never installed cmst, nm must be randomly attaching when I turn off wifi, even though I'm generally also turning off cellular at the same time.

Bug #9 is the one to follow if you want to track the progress of getting nm up to scratch: https://github.com/gemian/gemian/issues/9

Hi Adam. Thank you again.

[cam1965]

Just to say cmst-connman is outside of my scope and so your off playing with dragons again.

I fixed up cmst/connman back on the Gemini, to only find that on the Cosmo we had apparently moved to nm, so now the plan is to fix that up, going forwards I don't want to have to fiddle with every different option, its a one time move to better fit with the plasma desktop hence updating of kscreenlocker shortcuts to work with nm. Given that my test sim has started showing random small amounts of data/month and I've never installed cmst, nm must be randomly attaching when I turn off wifi, even though I'm generally also turning off cellular at the same time.

Bug #9 is the one to follow if you want to track the progress of getting nm up to scratch: https://github.com/gemian/gemian/issues/9

Hi Adam. Thank you again.

Hi Adam. I did the trick : Now  incoming calls are working. I posted here a topic about this.
But  in messaging-app incoming messages are not working even with a fresh install. ( only outgoing messages are working ). I think you said that it works.Maybe your system has some different  files.
Please, could you confirm this ?
Thank you.

[shuntcap]

I have manually upgraded from v3 to v4.  My method does not require reflashing your Linux partition.  If anyone is interested, I will post instructions.  For some of us, the whole point of backing the Gemini/Cosmo was to have a miniature ARM Linux box to hack on.  Having to wipe the partition every new Linux release defeats the purpose.  I've upgraded manually every single release and never had to forfeit my customized Linux setup.  v4 was the trickiest, but it's not impossible.

[LinuxGuy]

Hi shuntcap


Please post your "howto" as I dont want to setup everything again!

[shuntcap]

Please post your "howto" as I dont want to setup everything again!

See my instructions here: https://www.oesf.org/forum/index.php?topic=36560.0