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« Reply #75 on: August 30, 2004, 08:21:34 am »
Thanks for your posts! After reading through the feedback I'm myself leaning towards a lite-only version of the ROM + package feed. Mainly because maintaining two separate versions (even pretty much the same) is a pain in the ass to me. We'll probably have to sacrifice some space in user flash partition (jffs2 has worse compression) in favour of flexibility...

But in any case this is not yet a final decision!

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« Reply #76 on: August 30, 2004, 12:19:32 pm »
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Thanks for your posts! ....
We'll probably have to sacrifice some space in user flash partition (jffs2 has worse compression) in favour of flexibility...

But in any case this is not yet a final decision!
Hi, like me use UCLX Compressor...
Example fron the site :
opera executable (the one in the sharp rom) orig.size    -->  2.892.256 bytes
compressed with UCLX (level 10)   -->  1.055.653 bytes   (36.5 % of orig.size)
I use it for all my programs (Portabase, FreeNoteQT, etc.) even for "Fast load" programs
A "must have" in the new light ROM
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« Reply #77 on: August 30, 2004, 01:02:16 pm »
Could I suggest that if you do consider UCLX Compressor that you put the decompression area on a RAM partition... UCLX decompresses writing the object to the /tmp directory then discards it when you have finished executing it.

On a flash based /tmp directory you end up with a lot of unnecessary writes wearing out your flash.

Not looked at UCLX too deeply but the mechanism also seems to suggest a vulnerability where a process could place an executable in the /tmp path that UCLX would pick up - perhaps root executes a UCLX command - and execute in place of the original that it was trying to unpack. - Don't know if this is a realistic vulnerability but it sounds feasible.

Alternatively, is there any need if the file system compression gets rid of the dead space in the first place ?
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« Reply #78 on: August 30, 2004, 01:06:56 pm »
hi there,

I hope it will be a full support do cisco vpn concentrator, like cisco vpnclient for linux an sharp zaurus. I have tried to use vpnc but it seems to me that it will need a lot of works around. This could be useful also for enlarge the zaurus use.

Another think a support for leap (cisco EAP protocol implementation). Yes I know cisco cisco... bla bla, but it
has the 80% or more in the internetworking area!

This could be useful also in pdaxrom implementation...

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« Reply #79 on: August 31, 2004, 02:44:40 am »
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Hi, like me use UCLX Compressor...
Example fron the site :
opera executable (the one in the sharp rom) orig.size --> 2.892.256 bytes
compressed with UCLX (level 10) --> 1.055.653 bytes (36.5 % of orig.size)
I use it for all my programs (Portabase, FreeNoteQT, etc.) even for "Fast load" programs
A "must have" in the new light ROM

Rearding UCLX Compressor - if you guys have paid a bit more attention you'd notice that is has been already used in Cacko 1.2x ROMs  Opera, Netfront, QtMail (just to name a few) - these apps are already compressed using UCLX.

There are a few side affects though:

 - space in /tmp is used when UCLX compressed is launched, and /tmp is limited to 10 Mb in current Cacko ROM versions
 - application launch time is significaly longer - about 2 times for Opera.
 - all applicationes are running under strange process (named "3" or similar) instead of their executable names
 - the current directory for the application is /tmp, which may have negative  affects - for eample Opera is looking for its plugins in /tmp/Opera/plugins folder...

BTW, my tests show that sqashfs compression is almost as good as UCLX, while providing for much better performance. This means that having application pre-built in ROM is more efficient in terms of storage and performance than having them compressed using UCLX and then installed. But like I said before, there will have to be trade offs between efficiency and flexibility.

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Could I suggest that if you do consider UCLX Compressor that you put the decompression area on a RAM partition... UCLX decompresses writing the object to the /tmp directory then discards it when you have finished executing it.

On a flash based /tmp directory you end up with a lot of unnecessary writes wearing out your flash.

In Cacko ROMs /tmp is not in flash. It's not RAM either. It uses a special tmpfs file system, which doesn't consume any space untill actual data is written to it.
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« Reply #80 on: September 01, 2004, 06:37:45 pm »
Back to check on the progress of this thread, and not sure i like the way things are going.  I would rather have an elegant compressed 'complete' install than a barebones one.  I'm certainly not going to run into space restrictions...

So you know my vote. 8)

A few more small wishes.  When the headphones are plugged in, the Z doesn't immediately shift the output to them (i always assumed that was a hardware thing, but i guess not).  The player programs have to be closed and reopened first.

Second (and this probably already exists) is an easy key combination for select all.  Fn-A would be great.

Third is some kind of macro keystroke(s) Fn-n Fn-m?  That could be assigned some string to output.  With my Z, i suddenly find my 14char logins agonizingly long to type in.

And to repeat myself from the previous post, KoPi/a.  After actually having a go at the in built PIM proggies, i'm almost missing my T3.

Thanks for your hard work.

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« Reply #81 on: September 03, 2004, 03:00:58 am »
flandry i don't have any problems inserting headphones at any point. It is done in hardware, but having built the remote control I know that the socket is a four pole one and the two outer pins have to be joined together (by a standard headphone plug) for this to change to the headphones.  If i'm using the remote i have to hit a button before the speaker switches off.
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« Reply #82 on: September 06, 2004, 06:34:39 am »
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Looks like a "Lite" version (which I second) of the ROM is what people would like to have. I'll open a poll to see how many would want that. But they will have to sacrifice internal flash space because, like I said, jffs2 compression is worse than cramfs/squashfs
I don't quite understand... a "lite"version would save space wouldn't it?
If Ko/Pi would be included in ROM, would it run faster? What if ther would be an update of Ko/Pi?


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« Reply #83 on: September 06, 2004, 07:22:52 am »
tun/tab device would be nice.  

Please!  


more infos here :

-openvpn for zaurus-
http://killefiz.de/zaurus/showdetail.php?app=1417

-openvpn homepage-
http://openvpn.sourceforge.net/

-vtun homepage-
http://vtun.sourceforge.net/tun

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« Reply #84 on: September 06, 2004, 06:20:06 pm »
Update all applications from last Sharp Rom. There are 1.40 for SL-C860:
http://support.ezaurus.com/sl-c860/update/...ate/kyodaku.asp

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« Reply #85 on: September 06, 2004, 06:25:11 pm »
Resolve problem with displaying iso-8859-2 characters in NetFront and Opera. In Netfront I see some czech characters are other characters. (Maybe font without Latin2 support). In Opera I don't see pieces of text
with some Latin2 characters. These problems are in 1.21b Cacko Rom.

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« Reply #86 on: September 07, 2004, 05:27:29 am »
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tun/tab device would be nice.  

Please!  


more infos here :

-openvpn for zaurus-
http://killefiz.de/zaurus/showdetail.php?app=1417

-openvpn homepage-
http://openvpn.sourceforge.net/

-vtun homepage-
http://vtun.sourceforge.net/tun
Interesting! I think I can build and include at least the device driver module...

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« Reply #87 on: September 07, 2004, 05:28:47 am »
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Update all applications from last Sharp Rom. There are 1.40 for SL-C860:
http://support.ezaurus.com/sl-c860/update/...ate/kyodaku.asp
What's the difference?

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« Reply #88 on: September 07, 2004, 05:31:12 am »
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I don't quite understand... a "lite"version would save space wouldn't it?

It depends on how many apps you install on top of that Lite version. Ultimately a full set of aplicating matching the full version will use up more space than a version that already has all those apps included in ROM.

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If Ko/Pi would be included in ROM, would it run faster? What if ther would be an update of Ko/Pi?

Why should it run faster?

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« Reply #89 on: September 07, 2004, 05:32:44 am »
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Resolve problem with displaying iso-8859-2 characters in NetFront and Opera. In Netfront I see some czech characters are other characters. (Maybe font without Latin2 support). In Opera I don't see pieces of text
with some Latin2 characters. These problems are in 1.21b Cacko Rom.
You can try to find fonts that have all the characters you needa dn install them. That may help.