OZ 3.5.1pre1 + GPE testing

[Cwiiis]

I'm not sure if gpe-package displays available packages properly yet - You need to edit /etc/ipkg.conf and add the feed there, then run 'ipkg update', then you should be able to install the packages with ipkg (and possibly the package manager, although that'll only install to root, so I recommend you use ipkg) Do that all as root of course, it just won't work otherwise.

I've tried installing Gaim and the packages do work fine, so if after doing that the feed doesn't work, post again and I'll upload it again. Sorry for the inconvenience

[h2gofast]

root terminal seg faults when using vi.
When using vi as normal it doesn't cooperate.
A text editor whether emacs or vi is, imho, critical.
control panel doesn't come up when clicked on.
clock won't display analog
the pim stuff seems to work well.  
I couldn't get gpe-sync to compile so I couldn't test multisync with evolution.
The light setting in Screen Setup remains at 10, to change it you change it from the task bar.
Also, I had to remove taskbar icons and re-add them or else they would cover part of the clock.

[Cwiiis]

vi works ok for me in both terminals, but it doesn't display quite correctly and scrolling right or left too fast crashes the terminal - I've no idea why this is... gpe-edit works fine however - I'll see about getting a more comprehensive text editor installed perhaps, but there's not anything I can do about vi/rxvt at the moment I don't think - The bug with the incorrect display happens in opie-console as well, I don't know what causes it.

As for the control panel, I don't think it's necessary - most of the gpe-conf sub-apps work fine, I think the control panel is just a hub for them - I'll ask the GPE people about this though, as well as about gpe-clock.

I'm not sure what causes the tray apps to act funny when covering parts of each other, certain orders of apps seem fine though - the default order should display ok... I think this might be a bug in matchbox, hopefully it'll disappear with time.

I've not tried gpe-multisync yet, I'll get around to it when more stuff works  I'm working on getting gpe-nmf working at the moment, an audio-player I think is a pretty critical app. I'll update the feed later if I'm successful.

[cycojesus]

but as always nothing for the 5600...

cycojesus,

Try this link.

http://handhelds.org/~pb/oe/images/poodle/

1. You will need the updater.sh from OZ for this to work.
2. Rename the zimage file as just zimage
3. Rename the  gpe-image file as initrd.bin

Flash as you normally would.

I've tried this on my 5600 and have reported my findings, so I will warn you now that the touch screen has major issues at the moment so you may wish to wait for a newer image to appear.

Hope this inspires some hope.

Not sure if you use IRC, bu I logon to #GPE and #Handhelds.org on irc.handhelds.org. The people there are very friendly and helpful.

A quick thank you to all developers involved in these projects.

I love you  I will try it as soon as possible ! (this afternoon I'll have my card reader back so I'll be able to unbrick my Z  Time to get back to experimentation Youhou!!)

[h2gofast]

I tried to install gaim using ipkg -d ram install gaim and ran out of space.
I'm still a little foggy about the separation between memory and storage on the Zaurus.
Internal Flash (Mounted at / )totals 14 MB and Sytem Memory totals 60.9 MB.
I thought the -d ram flag would install to memory. I'm not sure what I'm missing here.
Sorry about the newbie question.

aghh, forgot my morning coffee and that this was a 64-0 kernel.
I really need to wake up before I post.

I couldn't successfully flash with kernels from CoreDump's link
http://www.hentges.net/misc/openzaurus/ker...xa3-embedix-r6/
I don't have an sd card so I'm limited for testing new packages.

[aking]

Thanks for the images Cwiiis!  I just tried the latest image you posted and here's
my results:

  - control panel still doesn't open
  - toolbar works much better than the previous image.  I don't
    see any problems with it now.
  - rotation applet no longer rotates the screen.  It did with the
    previous image
  - power save mode/auto lcd shutoff still doesn't work.  This is really
    the only thing stopping me from using this image fulltime
  - WEP/wireless works great.  I don't use usb networking
 
One other question - is there a package I can install to play ogg files?
gpe-nmf doesn't seem to work and there's no xmms available.  Thanks!

[omro]

I love how clean GPE looks compared to OPIE!

I prefer Gnome to KDE on the desktop and GPE has a similar, simple, almost restful appearance.

Is there a good place to find apps for GPE? Rather than just a feed listing, am looking for some sort of description to actually tell me what each app does.

[Cwiiis]

I also love how GPE looks too, and I'm dedicated to getting it working nicely for the same reason I use Gnome instead of KDE  (and I used to be a huge KDE advocate, so it's not like I haven't tried both).

Significant changes coming in today's (hopefully) image:
-Working gpe-nmf (Mostly done)
-Single-click interface changes (in progress)
-gpe-games (in progress)

aking - The control panel is a redudant link, meant for gpe appmgr (what was used before mb-desktop) - I've removed it now. Ogg support works great in gpe-nmf, stay tuned  I'll see what I can do about the auto shut-off of the LCD, but no promises on that one... That and keylaunch seem to be the last big problems with GPE on the Zaurus, which is nice

[omro]

Awesome

Will it be able to suspend and resume using the on/off (cancel) button?

Do you know any word processor/spreadsheet programs that run on GPE?

Even a basic spreadsheet would be nice.

Would also love to get apache and mysql working on it too.

I love the way that GPE gives the Zaurus a total face lift. The same way that changing from XP to Gnome on my laptop was such a dramatic and yet (mostly - apm and linux still is a pain) welcome change!

[Cwiiis]

Suspend/resume has been working with gpe-image for a while now, so yes, that'll work  hehe - gpe-word doesn't work at the moment apparently, so I can't build that... I might see about insisting it gets uploaded so I can have a try for myself though...

Someone was saying yesterday that Gnumeric works quite well in GPE, once you customize the toolbars and such - I can compile that, but it's a Gnome app, so it pulls in a lot of large dependencies.
Looking at AbiWord, it doesn't make any mention on the website that it requires Gnome libraries, so I might see if I can add that to OE - but again, it's probably not great on such a small screen.

App availability for GPE isn't great yet, but we'll get there soon

[omro]

Suspend/resume has been working with gpe-image for a while now

The image that I grabbed thursday night didn't seem to want to work with suspend/resume

I've a 128mb SD card, so if I can utilise that, I should hopefully be able to add some larger programs onto the system, though am afraid they might not work very well, not sure how fast they'd find my 5500!

Is there a central repository for GPE compatible apps? Like the killefiz.de database, though those seem to be mostly OPIE apps.

[omro]

On a separate note, is there a beginner's step by step guide to how to get into the whole app building/testing/fixing etc for this sort of thing, I'm sure loads of people would like to get involved, like myself, but don't know quite how to start or know what skills they need to learn, etc.

[Wouter]

I've also flashed the GPE rom, and I have to say it looks very nice indeed! (thanks Cwiiis :-)) Nice to do some experimenting with the zaurus again ;-) I'm now trying to run the whole thing from a SD card instead of the internal flash...

[omro]

I'm now trying to run the whole thing from a SD card instead of the internal flash...

Is that doable with OE/OZ 3.5? If so, how?

I tried that with OZ 3.3.5, using the linux-migration.org notes, and while it works, everything seems a lot slower.

[lardman]

Is that doable with OE/OZ 3.5? If so, how?

From what I understand it should work in much the same way.

I tried that with OZ 3.3.5, using the linux-migration.org notes, and while it works, everything seems a lot slower.

It will be as SD card access is slower than accessing the ROM.


Si